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22 May 2015 19:36:43
So we are basically waiting on investment for our new stadium, naming rights and sponsors and stuff well here we go again Yawn yawn Elstone and the board have money but won't invest in our great club why the hell should anybody else then sick of this crappy board they wreck my head . Rant over.

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22 May 2015 20:19:56
And si it goes on and on and on and.

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22 May 2015 09:52:47
RM on TS this morning, admitted he is looking to bring in 3 or 4 which is good news as the other day he said it was about quality not quantity, hopefully he's learnt from signings like mcgeady.
He knows a CB is a priority to support and push Jags and Stones.
He is NOT going to sell last years buys! Hopefully another CM, winger and striker are the other priorities, we will no doubt be linked with several playes, Nolito, Van Dijk etc, would take Ings or Austin as striking options but another real quality CM is a definite! I think Lennon could well be the winger he has certainly impressed!

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22 May 2015 12:05:27
dont want ings, injury prone and doesn't have the balls to take a penalty. would take austin, van dijk (doubt it) though. why do we need another cm? a striker and number 10 deffo. we already have mccarthy, barry, gibson, besic, ledson, osman and barkley who can all play there. although I would sell gibbo to bournemouth or someone like that for 2m. then maybe we might need one, need another striker as I can't see mcaleny playing (next season is his last chance methinks) and kone is well, kone. also a number 10 who can run at people and support lukaku but also see a pass as we have no one like that.

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22 May 2015 12:20:13
Swan:

''need another striker'' without doubt as RL is crying out (metaphorically speaking) for cover, competition and assistance .

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21 May 2015 17:51:39
New kit looks awful imo

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21 May 2015 17:37:22
Right the club need to get the situation with Garbutt sorted, if we lose him for next to nothing it's a disaster and if he ends up playing for the reds ill be gutted. We have a ready made Baines replacement there, get him signed with the assurance of first team football in a couple of years and let him go out on loan to a newly promoted side like Bournemouth to get some experience, to much potential there to be let go. I remember when Baines signed and was frustrated at his lack of game time as Moyes at that time played Lescott at LB but look what sort of player he turned into for us. The club really need to make an effort here and secure a player for our future

{Ed025's Note - i agree TB mate..

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21 May 2015 19:17:39
I'm sure the club have had discussions with the player and given him a contract offer. Martinez already eluded that they were working on a two year plan with Garbutt and they were 12 months in.

The situation is not of Everton's doing but the player looking to take advantage. It's a shame and I'm disappointed with the player not committing to the club after signing him from Leeds and giving him the chance. As we are seeing across the park, WBA and others, morals no longer have a place in football.

{Ed025's Note - your right there john mate..

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22 May 2015 11:01:20
Martinez has alluded to many things! he has suggested that we have been phenomenal all bloody season ,

Yeah!?

The situation due to RM is that the team at Everton football club is treading water at this time, and we will not be able to attract the best players available to us until ''the managers principles'' tend to be more eclectic!

This is something that IS true!

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21 May 2015 11:29:46
Hi. Haven't posted for a while.

For me this season as been a bit disappointing but you can't have a good seanson all the time.

For me transfer wise I would go some thing like this.

Out.
Astu - loan return.
Lennon - loan return.
Distan - free.
Alcatras - free.
Pinner - 1 to 2mil.
Mcgready - 2 to 3mil.
Kone - 2 to 3mil.
Obaby - 4 to 6mil.

Total top end 14mil comming in.

Ins.
Hennen - 500k quoted.
Delboy - 8 to 10mil.
Nalito - 16mil buyout clause.
Van diki ( spellin from celtic) 8 to 10mil.
Austin - 8mil.
Garutt new contract
Mirallas new contract.
Plus some young ones to promoted to first team.

Total top end 46mil.
Take the 14mil off from sales

32mil net spend.

And we would have a great attack and a stronger defence with the van man guy.

Some thing like this.

Howard
Coleman. Jags. Stones. Banies.

Mirallas. McC. Besic. Nalito.
Barkley.
Lukaku.

Beach.
Robles.
Garbutt.
Galloway.
Van d.
Delboy.
Barry.
Nasmith.
Austin.
Osman.
Hibbo.
Gibbo
And some more young ones.
Thats a full 2nd team

What do you think ed and what about the prices and realistic chance of any of this happening

{Ed025's Note - great if it happened yorkie, but a net spend of £32m i cant see mate, but we all live in hope i suppose..

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22 May 2015 13:16:36
A purchase spend of £46m and only one player makes the team? Doesn't make any sense.

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21 May 2015 13:18:47
This new shirt looks pretty identical with exception of a white triangle that looks remenicant of the Le coq sportif one a few years back that I refused to buy. Zzzzzz umbro

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21 May 2015 12:19:54
Just seen the new kit,its not bad apart from the blue band around the top of the shorts,whats all that about? Unless we've got plans to sign Lee Cattermole nobody is going to see it.

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21 May 2015 15:55:48
Glad to see white socks back

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20 May 2015 21:23:03
For those who may be interested, on evertonfc Web site, link via Liverpool Echo detailing Evertons players average salaries and how they compare with other clubs.
Apart for football reasons there is little wonder why players can see the need to move on. It is also likely the gap will widen and the club having to continue with loans and freebies.

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20 May 2015 11:56:35
Nice piece of new kit marketing on front and back cover of Metro today.

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19 May 2015 18:28:47
Jonney Evens, tom cleverly, for . sake!

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19 May 2015 20:50:58
What's worse is that both those players would inevitably better the team, last season I remember carra & neville saying we were a proper team that could compete, we've gone backwards and all signs are pointing to loosing some of our best players, it's all gone to 💩

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19 May 2015 22:49:36
Please don't let this be true, Evans is slow and clumsy, Cleverly not what we need, we have enough grafters in midfield, need a bit of class. What with Nani and Jana what's his name, are we becoming a dumping ground for Manc cast Offs? We will be getting Scholes and Giggs out of retirement next 😃

{Ed025's Note - i agree woburn mate...these are not signings that would improve us, they are crap to be honest mate..

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19 May 2015 23:00:58
Well then we are odds on for the premier league next season, two absolute smashing signings bring it on Coyb. 😝😝😞😞

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20 May 2015 02:56:32
I am hoping that this is the thin end of the wedge and just one of many false summertime banter lines. Alternatively this is true in which case, I will want to have a word with Bill and ask him what the hell is going on. Such a backwards move. We need winners who will transfer their knowledge to our younger guys to fire their enthusiasm for a tilt at the top 4, not mid table mediocrity.

{Ed025's Note - your right TT, what a backwards step that would be!..im praying that its just speculation mate..

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20 May 2015 03:28:36
Would take Cleverley on a free all day! We've got Osman (34), Barry (34) & Gibson who's never fit, don't see the harm in bringing him in to replace one of those. On the Evans side of things, NOO WAY! he's awful and the money getting talked about is ridiculous for a player of his standards, i'd rather give Alcaraz a contract than waste money on him! We have to be looking at better quality centre backs than that!

{Ed025's Note - if we get the 2 of them on a free...then we are still being ripped off imo jwitter..

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20 May 2015 07:59:44
Just to add some humour that Evans would be happy as he wouldn't have to move house. Goodison being within spitting distance from where he lives. Not good enough for Everton .

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20 May 2015 09:16:42
We should not touch any of these with a barge pole. None of them improve the squad. We need 3 or 4 players with a couple of them young with potential and a quality winger that's established and can instantly improve us and take us to another level in that area.

Evans, Nani and Cleverly! What a joke!

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20 May 2015 09:36:55
I know where I would put that ''barge pole'' if they do come BlueJohn!

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20 May 2015 10:23:06
I keep saying this and will say it again. RM seems to take the "easy" signing route. In the past EFC scoured the Irish leagues, league 2, The Greek and Bosnian Leagues.we brought in some real quality youngsters and the squad benefitted. RM seems to wait for a top 4 club to be getting rid of aging, injury plagued or plain just past it has beens:
Alcaaz, Kone, Barry, Eto'o and that's before Cleverly or Evans. Even Lukaku and the loan signings are from top 4 British teams (the Barca kid an exception). It just seems lazy signings to me.

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20 May 2015 11:35:46
Oi, leave Clevs alone.

I agree about Evans though, we have got enough crap in the squad without adding more.

#Wedontwinanything
20 years and counting
Martinez Out

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20 May 2015 15:16:03
I'm hoping it is just paper talk. To be fair to Martinez when he has to spend good money on players he does well. McCarthy, Lukaku, Besic and even Robles are decent players and haven't depreciated in value.

As for the Free transfers, I've said before, you get what you pay for.

Cleverly is not good enough even at Villa. Nani would be a complete disaster but the talk of £10 mil for Evans must be a lie surely. A free transfer is too much for the lad.

My only other thought is that I thought last season we needed more people in the club shop for kit release days. I could be this role they are filling!

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20 May 2015 17:10:01
Evans is better than Alcatraz. Cleverly I simply do not get. Although on recent form he is better than Barry but you would assume he would be played further up so what's the point?

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20 May 2015 10:50:07
besic? henen? galloway? joel? terribly lazy signings. why get a poor lazy signing like lukaku when you can scour players like magaye gueye and apostolos vellios.

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20 May 2015 17:41:21
Degs you keep sayin it so I will lazy signings just rubbish talk Galloway lukaku McCarthy besic henen robles Barry Kone Alcarez mcgeady ten signings six under the age of 24 one 27 two came from top four clubs where do you get your stats :)

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20 May 2015 19:45:41
Ed can you find out the honours Johnny Evans has won and post please.

{Ed025's Note - 3 prem titles mate..

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21 May 2015 06:48:24
My replies: First to Swan. if I said Newcastle played in black and white. you would argue that I was wrong because they play in white and black. Now to Coyone. Galloway, Henen, Kone and Alcaraz.how many games have they played between them? early days with Galloway and Henen I agree.but Kone and Alcaraz. in MY OPINION. are lazy signings. Lukaku . a good signing yes. But where from? A distant league? No.on our doorstep. McCarthy? a good signing yes. but same as Alcaraz and Robles and McCarthy.Wigan.how far away did he have to scour for them? Barry?. again how far. So if we go for Cleverly and Evans.my point remains. Not exactly hard work finding these players is it? Perhaps my point should have been clearer and not focused on the top 4 bit.more that he goes for easy doorstep signings with one or two exceptions I agree.

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21 May 2015 08:07:41
While I haven't seen much of evans, utd fans do not like him, mainly having a go at his passing. Degsy, you cannot be serious, where we get players from doesn't matter, its about the players themselves.

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21 May 2015 08:57:58
Swan I agree with your last statement. It doesn't matter where we get players from. We agree on that. My point is that the quality of signings is impaired if you look no further than your own doorstep. Widen the area and the bigger and better the catch. I hope that's the end of this one. I don't want another Osman debate as I am sure you don't too. Degsy

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19 May 2015 11:26:35
so are we in for a big summer? is it possible were going to see major activity - both ins and outs?/

lennon and atsu loand finished
alcaraz and distin garbutt contract up

we then have the ageing

howard - i'd sell now 36
osman - who will stay one more year
hibbert, make a coach
pienaar, sell on or retire
kone - bit part ad sell tbh won't get much
barry- bit part will be about another year a reckon
gibson- when fit he's brilliant, ad keep

do we sell?
mcgeady - bit part- sell him
mirallas- boss on his day- may want europe? wanna keep but if he doesn't wanna be here then sell

i really think this is the biggest summer we've had in a long long time, exciting? boring?

who do we want in? to add to this quality group

robles
stones
coleman
jags
baines
besic
mccarthy
barkley
naismith
lukaku

i also think we will see more of the younger guys - galloway-browning-ledson-long-green-pennington

coyb

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19 May 2015 13:23:50
Gibson when he's fit is good, but sadly he is never fit long enough. Would let him go mate, make room for younger players.

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20 May 2015 10:27:45
Put an almost identical post on last year Dazza. I was ridiculed for being negative by loads of posters on here. My fear is the new players that replace all these will take time to gel and settle in. Any club that changes the nucleus of the squad suffers a drop in form and takes time to come together. I his last year and had assorts of stupid reactions to what I thought was a genuine worry.

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20 May 2015 10:51:22
what would you have us do degsy? give alcaraz and distin new contracts? we have to go through it eventually.

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20 May 2015 17:48:34
Lol degs your somethin else replace all of these who exactly hibbert Alcarez distin only three that need to go three that don't play anyway buy in three or four simples

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21 May 2015 09:01:13
Read his post again at the top. I think you will find he lists a few more than the couple mentioned here. Should have signed more youngsters over the last 24 months.

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21 May 2015 11:55:50
how many youngsters did moyes sign in his last 24 months? kennedy, erm, um, stones, yep that's about it I think, think martinez already has more.

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22 May 2015 18:38:08
Seven youngsters out of ten how many you want lazy comments degs not lazy signings :)

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18 May 2015 21:33:28
So UEFA to relax the ffp, maybe now Bill can sell? Oh no wait there's the ground. Not to worry where building a new one in Walton. Things are definitely looking up.

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18 May 2015 18:33:09
I was reading the free paper on the bus to work this morning and they were reporting that a 8-year-old boy got bottled in London on Saturday during some football related trouble. Apparently Everton fans are in the frame for it after groups from a few clubs who were playing away in the capital clashed.
Really hope this isn't true, we have a great reputation as both away fans and as a family club, we really don't need this kind of negative publicity now or ever.

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18 May 2015 12:04:58
Does anyone know if we will get a fee for garbutt for training cost?

{Ed001's Note - yes, you get a fee, plus 5% of future sales.}

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18 May 2015 12:14:27
any idea where he is going ed?

{Ed002's Note - The Ed is not implying he is off.}

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18 May 2015 13:57:09
I wonder who it is he is joining. He definitely has another club he is going to. There is no way a 19 yr old runs his contract down like this to look at his options.

Oveido and Galloway will provide good cover but Galloway seems to be the better option to keep over Garbutt anyway. He can play in more than one position and is a different type of player whereas, Garbutt and Baines are almost identical in style.

It would also mean Oveido will get more opportunities and boy does he deserve it.

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18 May 2015 19:12:36
Cheers Ed (was worried about another Gosling as we signed him from leeds)

{Ed013's Note - Gosling wasn't from Leeds mate?}

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18 May 2015 21:27:20
Garbutt is a cracking young player, with a great left foot. Just seems ridiculous that we would consider letting him go. To say Galloway would be a better bet is naive based on one game. Surely we should be fighting to keep all our talented young players.

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18 May 2015 23:02:33
Plymouth

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19 May 2015 09:01:23
Woburn is right, 1 game (with only pride to play for + end of season etc.) could mean nothing in the long term.

So far so good yes , however you cannot gamble with if's and maybe's!

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19 May 2015 10:09:47
Why does everyone say can't believe we are letting Garbutt go. He is a human being that we can't force to stay against his will. He has obviously decided to leave rather than us let him go.
So essentially good riddance not interested in players who don't want to play for us

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19 May 2015 15:01:05
Me saying Galloway is a better bet was not based on one game. My suggestion was based on the fact he can play in more than one position and is a different type of player to Garbutt. Whereas Oviedo and Garbutt are similar to Baines. With a small squad quality options are essential.

As for us letting him go, I don't think we have any decision in this at all. He is the one not signing the contract. What more can we do?

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19 May 2015 22:37:51
Err offer him a decent contract maybe?

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20 May 2015 09:46:15
He's a guy that's played 10 games with his last stint as substitute showing that he has a long, long way to go defensively.

Anyway, are you in the know of what was offered to him? It doesn't look like it is anything to do with money and more about wanting game time. At Everton he doesn't deserve to be playing ahead of an English international and one of the best left backs in the EPL.

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18 May 2015 11:43:02
i kind of miss the 13-14 crest.

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18 May 2015 12:17:11
We're going to fall out Swan. haha

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18 May 2015 11:41:37
would anyone else put a few kids in the squad against spurs? would also start distin or at least bring him on as he deserves to say goodbye. would like to see the likes of browning, galloway and ledson get in the squad. would also get garbutt on to say goodbye :) hopefully mcgeady too

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18 May 2015 12:10:29
It'd be nice if Spurs played Lennon as well.

I hope he does play a few of the kids and Distin does deserve a send off. I'm not sure what the full low down was between him and Martinez but it'd be a good idea to put differences aside for one day.

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18 May 2015 13:52:56
We have a duty to beat the spuds so that the RS suffer the EL next season!

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18 May 2015 20:08:37
not really 5th go straight in group stages,6th have to go in qualify rounds.and if arsenal win cup so do 7th

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17 May 2015 15:40:59
Now i'm no fashion expert especially in football kits but has anyone seen the new kit, starting next week in the Spuds game? Well can't say its very inspiring, to think its probably gone through how many designs and really hard work by the designers and this is what they come up with!! not sure what to say really, other than maybe they should leave it to a kids competition in the future to design it.any thoughts blues? or just can't be arsed?

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17 May 2015 16:09:36
its been leaked on the internet and its nothing to get excited about to be honest!

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18 May 2015 08:32:04
its awful , umbro are a very poor brand.

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18 May 2015 11:17:36
Thats not the real kit lads. Toffee TV have said that it wasn't.

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18 May 2015 11:42:37
i like the kits with the big bandages on the arms, mainly because we did well with moyes' last season and martinez with them.

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18 May 2015 12:15:18
I thought last seasons shirt looked a lot more classy than the cheap american Nike shirt.

It can't be any worse than the New Balance effort for Liverpool. Them yellow stripes around the collar look awful.

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17 May 2015 14:17:26
There I was sitting in the Clients big office as the VP forcibly used his hands and eye contact to put his view of the future squarely before me. The need for change was immediate and a report of substance was required for board presentation. As a VP myself, I took this ticking off in good measure. After all, his anger was not directed at me. What then, I asked, do you mean when you say the need for substance but without the detail? Detail, I carried on, is the very devil of life. He leaned back, took out a piece of paper, folded it and said, "its an empty sheet. Forget all before and make me believe that you can make a change". Now you are me. This is serious money. I am talking about $2.5B over 6 years. Just like a big footie club like EFC
What's really going on your blank piece of paper?
Not to throw the baby out with the bathwater?
Tinkering here or there?
The big buy?
Bill's been at the head of things for a time now. He knows the score. We need some element of knowledge transfer and a succession plan to propel us into a better future. We are slipping off the finance league for top clubs (we are now 43rd, slipping from the worlds top 20). Decline is there. It is inevitable without change. It needs management action. That damned blank piece of paper again!

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18 May 2015 17:04:28
What would you suggest Torontotoffeman. What you are saying here is you have a blank white piece of paper. You haven't put anything on it.

What Bill and the men in power are saying is we need a new stadium. That is what they are proposing to move us forward. Every finance person who has talked about us getting a new investor/owner and for the club to move forward is a new stadium.

Don't forget though a general manager is a world apart from being a chairman.

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18 May 2015 17:52:42
We will never move forward as a club without a new stadium being built. What are the current board or investors doing to make it happen? Like him or not I would like a owner like Abramovich- football is about winning trophies, something we have not seen in too long.

So, the blank piece of paper- it will stay blank until this a stadium is built and we will never move forward as a club.

Clubs like West Ham who get the Olympic stadium- it's frustrating.

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17 May 2015 13:53:45
Does anybody think "The Boss" deserves some praise for yesterdays victory.
1-1 with 20 mins to play, away from home, and he sends on 2 attacking wingers and Bingo!!
What would DM have done??

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17 May 2015 14:20:37
I think your askin the wrong people Alan give Martinez praise not on this site mate lol

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17 May 2015 14:23:29
Agreed. DM would have gone for the point.

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17 May 2015 18:27:12
He may have gone for the point or he may not have gone for the point. but we would have been at least 4 places higher in the league already. In my humble opinion.

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17 May 2015 19:09:27
With this squad degsy? Moyes wouldn't work with it, players like stones, lennon, naismith and lukaku would have been sold or never bought and with how the rest of the teams are doing i'd say we would be about 7th or 8th under moyes. Mainly because we wouldn't of got out the europa group stages. We would still be trophyless too. Least are fans could enjoy the european trips this season and got to see some good stuff. The league and cups have been bad, the league slightly worse probably than if moyes was here but oh wait. No, we wouldn't be higher if moyes was here, as we would still have jelavic and anichebe who get about 9 or 10 goals a season combined whereas lukaku has 20. Not to mention players like garbutt, galloway, browning and joel never getting a breaktgrough. To the op, if moyes was in charge of that game, he would have brought heitinga on and put naismith right wing and maybe brought jan mucha on to play centre back. While we have been poor this season, thank god we are away from moyes and his neverending streak of blandness. Give me a 10th place finish with a good run in europe and giving lots of youngsters game time all while having some great players already regulars like stones, mccarthy and lukaku. Over an 8th place moyes season with no youngsters, no exciting players with potential and non stop excuses about anything he can find.

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17 May 2015 21:55:42
Moyes would have finish top 7

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18 May 2015 18:29:48
Wow Swan, I bow to your in depth knowledge of what Moyes would do. I never realised you were clairvoyant. By the way, Stones and Naismith were signed by Moyes. so that one is a bit off. Also Garbutt has had such a breakthrough season with RM so that he has just signed a new 10 year deal? Lukaku? maybe you have a point.but wait. we sold Fellaini to pay for Lukaku. so maybe, just maybe we might have had a different forward? And if you are happy to settle for 10th with the type of super football that we have played this season (not) then you see football different to me. I thought the last season under Moyes was awesome.

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19 May 2015 09:17:53
I never said he didn't sign him, I said he would of sold the. Or wouldn't of played him (he never played stones and always had naismith on in the 92nd minute to waste time). Also, garbutt? Its his choice if he wants to leave, 10 year deal? Keep it relevant. Moyes wouldn't of sold fellaini and if he did, he wouldn't of signed a player like lukaku, maybe a shane long or kevin doyle. Also, me clairvoyant? that's a bit rich coming from you degsy.

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19 May 2015 10:13:08
Swan, DM bought Stones and Naismith

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19 May 2015 11:49:49
i didn't say he didn't buy them, he just never played them and both would of been sold or in the reserves by now.

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20 May 2015 10:33:22
Theres the clairvoyance again Swan. lol

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17 may 2015 13:10:27
just remember what happened at leeds portsmouth cardiff now at newcastle even the red shite nearly got turnned over by so called rich men. i would take bill over them all day long

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17 May 2015 19:15:52
You must love being mediocre that's all I will say.

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18 May 2015 00:12:01
Well said mike

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18 May 2015 03:56:29
Those who think Bill is doing such a good job, should learn the diferance between stability and stagnation.Kenwright is leading us to a long slow demise. He may well have started off with the best of, intentions, but, the road to hell is paved with good intentions, another five years of bill, will see us scraching around the lower devision, trying to survive and living off long lost glories.

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18 May 2015 10:30:42
so what can we do to get a rich man to come save our demise?? I agree we need to move on but we can't get sold if there's no buyers intrested ,

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18 May 2015 11:18:56
course there are people interested, but kenwright wants to stay in control without paying anything but raking in the cash.

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18 May 2015 11:46:54
like who swan? who wants to buy us. old squad old stadium , going to have to fork out a fiortune to take take us to the next level

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18 May 2015 12:03:20
i don't know, or maybe the club isn't for sale, ask kenwright but of course 'blue bill' gets off scotfree. we are getting a new stadium aren't we? kenwright said we are didn't he? oh of course things went quiet. build are hopes up every few years to keep things interesting while 'blue bill' reaps the rewards, excellent.

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