12 Feb 2014 02:09:23
I have a question that expands on the euro cup qualification question earlier.
What happens to the Euro cup place for the winners of the F.A Cup if the winners and the runners up both qualify for champions league (I.E 2 of either Liverpool, Arsenal, City or Chelsea) didn't include us as if we finished in top four I couldn't give a monkeys about the Euro Cup place :)
does it mean Euro Places go down to 7th?

{Ed025's Note - I think it does AL..

1.) 12 Feb 2014
England has four allocated berths for the UEFA Champions League.
England has three allocated berths for the UEFA Europa League.
There are three extra berths available in the UEFA Europa League based on the UEFA Respect Fair Play rankings - and England could get one (but only one) of these extra berths depending on the rankings.
The four CL berths go to the top four clubs in the Premier League - unless a team outside the top four wins the CL. Then the CL winners go into the CL and the fourth team go into the Europa League. (That's what happened with Chelsea and Tottenham a couple or so seasons ago.)
The FA Cup winners go into the Europa League - unless they've qualified for the CL in which case the FA Cup runners-up go into the Europa League - unless the runners up have also qualified for Europe (CL or EL) by league finishing position in which case the next best-placed league finishing position team qualifies for the Europa League.
The League Cup winners go into the Europa League - unless they've qualified for Europe (CL or EL) by league finishing position in which case the next best-placed league finishing position team qualifies for the Europa League. There is no provision for League Cup runners up qualifying for Europe.
Therefore, once the FA Cup and League Cup results are taken into account that leaves one (and possibly two or three) of the three allocated Europa League berths available to the best-placed league finishing positions. In theory, that could go down to 7th.
If an English club wins the Europa League, but doesn't qualify for Europe (CL or EL) by its domestic record, then it would be given an extra (4th) berth alongside the allocated three English berths. However, if it does qualify by its domestic record, then it takes one of the allocated three English berths and we don't get an extra berth.
Simples.

2.) 12 Feb 2014
For Baron Hardups comment, let's use the current table and City beat Arsenal in the FA Cup final.

The four CL berths go to city, Chelsea, arsenal, Liverpool, unless united win the CL (unlikely) and Liverpool get Europa league. City go into Europa league as FA cup winners, but they've beaten arsenal, but they are already in top 4. In which case 6th get Europa league. The league cup winners go into Europa league (which in extraordinary cases Sunderland beat city) unless they've qualified for CL (City) in which case the next placed league finishing position team qualifies for the Europa League.

If an English club wins the Europa League, but doesn't qualify for Europe (that leaves swansea cause spurs aren't going to come 8th) the and 4 teams will get Europa league!

So the chance of Europa league for us is if we don't win fa cup (unlikely ;)) then if the top 4 teams play each other in it. And if city beat Sunderland which is likely. So we will most probably have EL next season.

Simples.