13 Jan 2017 07:50:51
A £15 mill asking price for Depay puts him in the bracket of Niasse, so maybe a clue why only Lyon have shown permanent transfer interest. Walshes input and influence taking hold already perhaps and more (surprises) to come.

{Ed002's Note - That is far from what Lyon has offered for him.}


1.) 13 Jan 2017
13 Jan 2017 08:19:24
Ed if we don't sign depay do u know of any other wingers we would possibly look at signing

{Ed002's Note - Lookman has already signed and it was suggested yesterday that Cafu might be an option.}


2.) 13 Jan 2017
13 Jan 2017 10:32:31
I think Depay will probably go somewhere on deadline day and most likely on loan if United haven't shifted him elsewhere by then.


3.) 13 Jan 2017
13 Jan 2017 10:40:50
Ed out of curiousity what kind of offer do you think Lyon have made if any for Memphis? You would think United might eventually loan him he is a gamble at the perceived valuation close to 20?

{Ed002's Note - I don't want to get in to the money too much but Manchester United do not want to loan him - they really want to sell him. Lyon has made an offer and I suspect Manchester United will look for a way to make that work - perhaps add ons of some type, squeeze a couple of million euros more out of them or whatever. The critical thig is that nobody except Lyon has talked about buying him.}


4.) 13 Jan 2017
13 Jan 2017 12:29:04
Ed is their a specific reason why Utd are looking to sell him off rather than loan him out?

{Ed002's Note - Yes, he has no future there.}


5.) 13 Jan 2017
13 Jan 2017 13:08:35
Great. Thanks Ed.


6.) 13 Jan 2017
13 Jan 2017 13:15:46
So with everyone else looking at just a loan are they all just straight loans without an option to buy at the end? If the boy has no future then I get they want shot but would a loan with option to buy at the end not be another alternative?

{Ed002's Note - They are not interested in loaning him out - I am struggling to see why this is so difficult to understand. They wish to sell the footballer.}


7.) 13 Jan 2017
13 Jan 2017 13:41:59
I understood that to be the case and agree with you Ed002, just making a comparison between him and Niasse.

{Ed002's Note - There is no comparison.}


8.) 13 Jan 2017
13 Jan 2017 14:35:42
hmmm. but okay.


9.) 13 Jan 2017
13 Jan 2017 14:50:02
I totally understand that they wish to sell and I am sure in the perfect world we would have wanted to sell Niasse but have done a loan with option to buy.
Let's say for arguments sake they want £18m but nobody wants to pay that could a solution not be that someone says ok let us loan him and if he impresses then we can buy for said figure!
Or is the situation now that if they don't get a better offer they will take what Lyon has offered.
We don't always get what we want.

{Ed002's Note - There seems to be a certain futility in me saying yet again that they don't want to loan the player out - and this is what interested sides, including Everton have been told. So right now they are talking to a side who is interested in buying the player - which is what they want. And they will be attempting to get to some kind of agreement.}


10.) 13 Jan 2017
13 Jan 2017 15:54:22
Mourinho is not soft and i know he wants to sell Depay, but if he can't sell him he will always loan a player to a club that he thinks might be able to get results against other sides to help his own. So you never know.

{Ed002's Note - That is absolute nonsense - sorry, you are just making this stuff up.}


11.) 13 Jan 2017
13 Jan 2017 16:00:55
But if everyone is put off by his apparent 'dip' in form and nobody offers United the money they require then just MAYBE they will have no option other than to loan him out. At least that way someone else pays the wages (or a part of) and there is a chance his profile can increase again and they get the fee they require.

{Ed002's Note - It must be embarrassing for the clubs like Everton who enquired and said no then.}


12.) 13 Jan 2017
13 Jan 2017 16:07:36
Why embarrassing. They want a certain amount. WE value him at a certain amount and would prefer to 'try before we buy' after his poor performance to date in Premier League.

Not sure why that would be embarrassing.

But i suppose we will all find out if he is sold or loaned in due course eh

{Ed002's Note - Everton don't "value him at a certain amount" - why are you even getting the Kleenex out about him in any case?}


13.) 13 Jan 2017
13 Jan 2017 16:25:37
Don't value him at a certain amount?

So clubs don't have their own idea of what a players value is to them and what they are prepared to pay?

And no kleenex - if he comes and it works then great. If it doesn't happen and we get someone else so be it.

{Ed002's Note - Everton made an approach about a loan and were told no. There was no discussion about any price or anything else. And that was the end of it. This is quite frankly ridiculous.}


14.) 13 Jan 2017
13 Jan 2017 16:34:10
You must be right then if you are aware of exactly what the conversation was.
As i said before Ed i suppose we will see


15.) 13 Jan 2017
13 Jan 2017 18:14:10
Ok Ed so from what you know was the Everton offer merely to loan or a loan to buy type scenario?
If it was purely a loan with no intention to buy then I can understand you taking some issue However if it was a loan to buy scenario then surely they may revisit.
Unless the guy is that rubbish that they are concerned that anyone seeing him play will then run for the hills and rate him as only worth a tenner! Then I can understand why they wouldn't consider any sort of loan!

{Ed002's Note - I have explained - loan.}


16.) 13 Jan 2017
13 Jan 2017 18:18:46
It is not so much down to dip in form or playing time it is more down to how much the team wanting him value him at. Schneiderlin has played as little as depay but Everton didn't ask for a loan because they value the player. Depay is a risk and therefore only want to loan not buy to eradicate their doubts. Man u don't want to loan as Ed said so they are only interested in talking to clubs who wish to buy. If they did loan him out they would still be in the same position in the summer.


17.) 13 Jan 2017
13 Jan 2017 22:41:37
True Smit but he may have showcased his talents in the loan spell generating more interest to buy him, just my thoughts