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25 Nov 2014 17:31:28
Shakes with reference to Sterling being "world class" mare. Messi is world class, Ronaldo is world class. Sterling is good and has potential. But he plays in a poor club side (was hopeless against Palace). Plays in an average national team, and we're Real really looking to buy him? Don't think so mate. Same as Barcelona won't buy Ross. Paper talk.

Woburnblue

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Wowburn did u read my post word by word mate because I never said sterling an januzi are world class mate I said they are up and coming world beaters not already eorld class but I promis they will both be world class when there the finished artical

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24 Nov 2014 11:49:37
So we can add luke garbutt to the list of outgoings in the summer, shame, looked decent

Swan

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24 Nov 2014 17:50:43
Swan: is that just an opinion, a deduction, or info based on what the club or the player has stated?

Cowpat Sid 2 Cowpat Sid 2

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24 Nov 2014 20:08:58
An opinion, if he at the age of 21 can't get in the team when all our left backs are out, martinez mustnt rate him

Swan

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Not so sure. Martinez rightly predicted a physical onslaught from West Ham and chose the more physical Hibbert to step up. I think Garbutt will get a couple of full games soon - vs. Krasnodar at home and an FA Cup game. Martinez is no fool and he'll still be encouraging Garbutt and telling him he has a future here. Baines only has three or four more seasons in him max.

Spraggbj

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Swan: fair enough, mate.
By the way, my understanding is that next season Garbutt will be an 'aged over 21' player and will have to be named in our full squad. The good bit is that he'll be classed as 'club trained' for our European squad (if we qualify!). Barkley and Lukaku will also have to named in our full squads at that time as well, so some other players will have to be moved on (or excluded).
Our current PL squad is 24 players, while our current UEL squad is 25 strong (all 24 PL players except Junior PLUS Lukaku and Stones as the last two, although under 21, haven't been with us for at least two years). Come January, Stones should become a UEL under-21 player (having spent two years with us by then). Allowing for all that, our squad will still have to be changed next Summer to stay within the 25-player limit. We've also got to keep an eye on how many club-trained players we have. We were only able to name three of the four required for Europe this season (hence our UEL squad being one light at 24 players) - they're Osman, Hibbert and McAleny - with Barkley and Garbutt to bring into the aged-over-21 squad next Summer. All the talk about moving this player in or out by our fans is all well and good, but the squad rules and FFP spending (fees and wages) rules make it much more challenging these days. Simples - not!

Cowpat Sid 2 Cowpat Sid 2

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My bad - our PL squad is 23 players (not 24).

Cowpat Sid 2 Cowpat Sid 2

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My double bad - currently our PL squad is 23 players (not 24) and our UEL squad is 24 players (not 25).
I've got all the right players, but not necessarily the right numbers, as Eric Morecombe might have said ;-)

Cowpat Sid 2 Cowpat Sid 2

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25 Nov 2014 12:48:37
His contract is up at the end of the season

Swan

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Swan: good point about Garbutt's contract situation - if there's no hint of a renewal by January, then I guess we'll start reading stories of other clubs' interests. I just hope that we don't do another 'Dan Gosling' and lose out on any fee (or compensation)!

Cowpat Sid 2 Cowpat Sid 2

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25 Nov 2014 16:45:02
I'm sure Roberto will give Luke a chance, he didn't start on Saturday due to a slight injury he picked up while playing formthenEngland U21s

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24 Nov 2014 08:26:26
So the daily fail is now reporting that chelsea are lining up colemab for 20 million. These rags love flogging our players. Jokes

bluegray87

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20 mill for one of the top 4 right backs in the world is a joke. Am I the only person who thinks sc is in the list of top 4 riggt backs in thr world

shakey30

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If a promising full back like Luke Shaw goes for £30M, then a now-proven Premier League and International full back like Coleman is worth nearer £50m - but, of course, that's not how the crazy transfer market works, does it?

Cowpat Sid 2 Cowpat Sid 2

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23 Nov 2014 15:55:16
mephis depay linked today for 18 mil as bill won the euro millons haha

bretto

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Well, I could see it happen if we could get some Money from Arouna Koné.
But normally I don't see us use that kind of Money in the january window.

BlueHartmann

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24 Nov 2014 11:48:37
Not going to happen

Swan

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I hope it does swan your always a downer

bretto

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I just don't see us in the market for players at that kind of price (especially in January) unless we're letting someone go for big money - but stranger things have happened!

Cowpat Sid 2 Cowpat Sid 2

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That what I thought and lot of lfc fans disagree with me but depay is better then rahem sterling

bretto

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Who's to say we won't get him. We are financially sound and if we can make a big signing in January and a couple of loans, I think January will be okay for us.

dentielad

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Yeh that true and he is young and is already better then any other rm lm apart from king kev

bretto

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25 Nov 2014 16:14:44
Yes I 'hope' it does but it won't so i'm not getting excited in any way

Swan

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23 Nov 2014 11:51:22
breed donold embolo linked today for 10 million 15 games 4 goals origi 51 games 9 goals

bretto

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Also 17yrs old and Basel want £10 million. Bit much for a bairn

dentielad

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Yeh it is

bretto

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RM would have to be pretty convinced that such a player (17 years old?) would make it in order to spend such a large transfer fee imho.

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22 Nov 2014 12:31:25
I've just picked up the news that we're apparently showing an interest in Martin Montoya, the 23 year old right back from Barcelona. It could be a permanent signing by all accounts and would be better opposition for Seamus, who has struggled with several injuries this season.
Any thoughts Blues' fans?

Daveyboy Blue   Daveyboy Blue
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Yeh he properly could also play cb which I could see why were after him

bretto

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It would be best to get the lad on loan and see what's he's worth.
Its too risky to sell Coleman and just line him up as areplacement with his injury-history.

BlueHartmann

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The idea that we're even contemplating transferring Coleman - with this Montoya as a replacement - is beyond belief imho. RM has shown he's not in the business of letting our best players go. The only risk would be if a player wants to go AND we can get a fee that is too good to turn down and the money can be used to add quality and depth to the squad.

Cowpat Sid 2 Cowpat Sid 2

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17 Nov 2014 14:22:37
. just heard that the "Joel Campbell" rumour is true & a real possibility in January.would be really chuffed with this as the player looked real class whenever I've watched him & has definite ability. we're trying to negotiate a substantially lower fee than the £7 million quoted in the press though! Imagine this team in January when fully fit & firing;

Howard
Coleman
Jagielka
Stones
Baines
McCarthy
Barry
Barkley
Mirallas
Campbell
Lukaku/Etoo

Zacki

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Campbell is average at best, how could you leave out Naismith who at this moment in time is me is the player of the season so far.

dero

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Well Said Dero He is an unsung hero. Just took Martinez's faith an guidance to show his full potential COYB

pablo2201

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Would b good buy but not to drop Naismith for me I would like to see deulofeu back for another chance

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16 Nov 2014 17:40:01
Rhys Bennett being tooted as a possible back up/replacement for Distin. Plays in League 1 so am not too sure. but tbf I've never seen him play either.

QB

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Surely Brendan Galloway is the successor to Distin?

Cowpat Sid 2 Cowpat Sid 2

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But it seems that this could be Distins last season here. and do you think Galloway is ready to step up by next season? Guess we'll have to find out.

QB

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Stones?

Blue Man

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Scissors?

dentielad

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Stones (aka rock) - maybe.
Scissors - possibly.
Paper - no, I don't usually believe what I read about our club and our players in the paper.
;-)

Cowpat Sid 2 Cowpat Sid 2

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16 Nov 2014 12:49:45
Does anyone have some info on what's happening with Junior?

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17 Nov 2014 11:21:44
Had his breakfast this morning (scrambled egg), went the toilet, had a shower and had a game of fifa, more to come

Swan

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You're a funny bloke, Swan.
That's funny peculiar, not funny ha-ha, most of the time.
;-)

Cowpat Sid 2 Cowpat Sid 2

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He is out on loan somewhere foreign the last I heard. Finland I think.

dero

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He was on loan at a club in Norway, but he returned to us in the Summer and there's been no news on the official club website (or anywhere else that I've seen) since then.

Cowpat Sid 2 Cowpat Sid 2

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16 Nov 2014 10:38:30
linked with Joel Campbell from arsenal for 7 million

bretto

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I'd be somewhat surprised if Arsenal let him go for as little as that - especially to a club that's now rivalling them for a Champions League spot in the Premier League. On the other hand, he hasn't broken through there as a regular starter - and has been sent out on loan in the past - so who knows? Stranger things have happened. He did look quite good I thought in the World Cup, but may have flattered to deceive. Our Oviedo-baby, as his international teammate, should have a reasonable insight into what kind of character he is.

Cowpat Sid 2 Cowpat Sid 2

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He was sent out on loan to olympicos because of work permit but they had option to buy for 7 mil but he wanted to stay arsenal because of premier league

bretto

Ed01{Ed001's Note - they got a work permit for him for this season, but Wenger doesn't give him a game so he is looking to leave.}

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Yeh that what I mean to say ed001 tar how realistic do u think the chances of him leaving

bretto

Ed01{Ed001's Note - very realistic, he is looking for an out. Not sure if he will get a permanent move though, as he might get priced out of one. I feel sorry for him, he deserved a chance this season. He has been offered to a number of Prem clubs, including Everton, though it is difficult to tell whether the rep was acting with backing or just thought he would try and organise a deal off his own bat. I would be very surprised if Roberto Martinez was not interested in trying to do a deal as he definitely rates him highly and had him looked at a few times last season. There were even a few exploratory talks between the clubs in the summer regarding him, but nothing was sorted then.}

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Thank ed001

bretto

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14 Nov 2014 19:51:59
Be interested to see how ROI set up with Coleman and McGeady in team. Let's hope no more injuries with so many on International duty.

Tedster

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14 Nov 2014 16:51:43
Just read on ssn that Bainsey is out of the 2 England games with injury. Anyone heard anything?

Toffee E

Ed025{Ed025's Note - only the same as you mate..

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Yep apparently it's a hamstring strain, I heard he won't be back till earley December so there goes another one there is that many I heard there waiting on trolleys lol

Stef the blue

Ed025{Ed025's Note - at least we have a bit of cover there stef, and yes it is a bit like casualty there mate..

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Very true ed Oviedo he did very well there last year and popped up with a couple of goals.

Stef the blue

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14 Nov 2014 06:51:36
M.E.N state that Man City have been quoted £60 million for ROss Barkley - who would this have come from as I am sure that we have told them he is not for sale

andyjsb

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16 Nov 2014 15:07:13
Don't be so naive if a £60m offer comes in he's gone not matter what the club says.

Mike S Mike S

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18 Nov 2014 10:13:18
If you get 60m snap their hands of and do some cartwheels he is good but nowhere near world class.

Tommy Irish Red

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11 Nov 2014 16:02:08
Hallam Hope has rejoined Bury on loan until january and will join up with our other young striker courtney duffus, best of luck to them!

Swan

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It'll be interesting to see how our other younger players are regarded by RM as the season progresses:
(1) There's are some - like Browning and perhaps in due course Ledson, Galloway and even Henen - who now appear to be part of the first-team squad;
(2) There are others - like Hope - who are being sent on loan in order to see how they handle 'competitive' matches;
(3) And there are the remainder - like George Green dare I suggest - who don't yet seem ready to rise from our U-21 and U-18 environment to the next level.

Cowpat Sid 2 Cowpat Sid 2

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10 Nov 2014 12:27:53
Kone wanted by former club Levante.i will row boat him there myself to get this deal through. When you realise that this guy cost the same amount as Mirallas, it is actually quite shocking.

QB

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Do you need an extra rower?

JCW100

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Climb aboard mate! ;)

QB

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I've got some spare oars

Pablo

Ed025{Ed025's Note - as they said in jaws..."we need a bigger boat"..

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I think he keeps his Camel there.

Spraggbj

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Try being abit classy about one of our players. Row him to levante? Why row when my mate has a speed boat

dentielad

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Dentie hook us up lad eh?

QB

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I feel as though I'm the only one who would at least like to see him play before we ship him off, think he could be a good backup to lukaku in terms of holding the ball up if naisy and eto sit in behind. Then again seeing him play might be difficult if he is always injured.

Blue Man

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15 Nov 2014 09:01:37
Well if we ever get him fit I'd give him a chance, he was poor when he first signed but the last game he played before the injury he was good hit the woodwork twice. I always thought he was wigans best player

Jw!!!!

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09 Nov 2014 07:46:10
AC Milan lining up a bid for McCarthy according to the terrible tabloids. I'd take it with a pinch of salt but the fact remains we still need to offer him that improved deal.

Blue Tommy

Ed025{Ed025's Note - your right tommy, he is one we really cant lose..

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Bobby has come out and said "we don't have to sell anyone for financial reasons, any decisions will be made purely for footballing reasons".Bearing that in mind if the player wants to leave eventually he will. Any team would love J.Mac in there engine room that's for sure, so going by the "footballing reasons" we would have to be complete bonkers to even ever contemplate selling him to anyone to strengthen there team and by weakening ours, if you know what I mean.

jimmy c

Ed025{Ed025's Note - i agree jimmy..

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09 Nov 2014 14:27:32
Sideways step, maybe even step down at best, joining a team in decline in a poor league, I doubt they could afford him, and I doubt he would go there

Swan

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More important than Barkley IMO.

smeggs

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07 Nov 2014 15:15:31
delph linked with us on free at the end of the season

bretto

Ed025{Ed025's Note - good player imo bretto..

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Would replace gibbo very nicely imp

BlueClarkey

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He would indeed and could play a lot with barry age

bretto

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04 Nov 2014 10:37:13
Not a direct EFC rumour, but connected to previous posts relating to Red Bull.
The tabloids are reporting that Red Bull may now be making a 60 million bid to take control at Leeds Utd, so it doesn't look like they want us.

AW

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Red Bull Everton?
Everton Red Bull?
Just don't sound right anyway.

Woburnblue

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Were they ever really intrested anyway

shakey30

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A load of bullocks if you ask me

dixie normus

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06 Nov 2014 00:25:13
It would have cost them a fair penny more than 60 mill to buy efc. Part of our problem when any prospective buyer is looking at english clubs to take over. Stadium doesn't help our cause either, but the buyer wants to buy a club cheap and invest their money to make the team better, with efc already a partially well set up organisation with good players to attribute towards the value of the club, it's difficult for us to be sold to prospective buyers, particularly when the sellers (kenwright and the other shareholders on the board) want a return on their investment. Added to this our chairman wanting the right buyer to purchase us, and already being a shrewd person not wanting to take much risk on the sale due to the club he owns is the club he supports. With this in mind, until we have a nice new stadium with a good source of income, we will always be overlooked by the buyers.

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03 Nov 2014 16:06:48
Source Ghana Evertonian fan told me high possibility Kwado Asamoah join us on loan but Andre Ayew impossible.

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03 Nov 2014 14:03:40
Hopefully (and probably) a load of tabloid rubbish but apparently Roberto Martinez is wanted by Inter Milan

Blue Tommy

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03 Nov 2014 20:52:48
As RM has often said, speculation, whatever the actual truth might actually be, linking our players (and now our manager) with other clubs is a sign of how well they're doing at Everton. Unless these "stories" persist - and start to approach "tapping up" - I would expect RM and the players concerned to be totally calm about them - even to the point of being amused by the antics of the journo-jokers who publish them. As always, today's newspapers are tomorrow's fish and chips wrappers ;-)

Cowpat Sid 2 Cowpat Sid 2

Ed025{Ed025's Note - or toilet paper sid...im showing my age there mate.. :)

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Considering that even in our run of questionable form we are a total class above today's inter Milan, I'm not sure why Martinez would even want that job, let alone why they would think they could get him.

PrinceToffee

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I would be worried if it was a top team in Spain because I think Roberts would then have a decision to make otherwise why would he want to jump ship to the Italian league? Nah not having this 1

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I think it's a load of rubbish. The rumour itself; that they want him, is believable. But even if it's true I don't believe for one second that they would get him. He's trying to build something lasting here, and Inter are in a bit of a mess at the moment. I don't think anyone seriously big will come in for him unless we start winning things and qualifying for the champions league on a regular basis.

Blue Tommy

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02 Nov 2014 16:41:25
vela linked today would uses take I would

bretto

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03 Nov 2014 11:29:10
I know he played for arsenal but I have no idea what positio he plays, I remember him being left footed, that's about it, is he a winger or striker?

Swan

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Behind striker swan.

sitea

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Rm swan but can also play up top

bretto

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04 Nov 2014 17:34:48
Thing is, would moyes sell hm to us?

Swan

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30 Oct 2014 19:17:45
can see us being in 6th place at the close of play this weekend with Manchester United having to play city, liverpool having a tough trip to newcastle and us playing swansea. can't see arsenal tripping up against burnley though to get us to 5th.

huytonbluecraig

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The wins against Villa and Burnley have brought back some confidence. The quicker passing was there against Villa and the Burnley game was pretty dominant. 3 wins on the bounce will put us right back up there.

andyjsb

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A win against Swansea City and the resulting three points would be nice.
Moving up the table would also be good.
What other teams do is obviously out of our control, but, like most fans, it is pleasing when our rivals falter ;-)
My mantra is: just concentrate on winning the next game; let RM and the club deal with the strategy and planning and player development that makes winning possible; and then let's see where we are at the end of the season.

Cowpat Sid 2 Cowpat Sid 2

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It's all about cashflow Cowpat. Yes we were a lot more in debt and we have just paid a big chunk off. But we know we are guaranteed season ticket sales next season and Premier League money comes in stages. My own maths told me we had a sizeable chunk of dosh and it was obvious to me that we were weak in the center back area. This was directly after securing Lukaku and Barry on permanent deals. The fact we didn't sign anyone and also paid the chunk of our outstanding debts off tells me that my maths was about right. I still expect us to make that signing. Maybe in January, and if not, then at the end of the season.

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29 Oct 2014 16:22:24
Someone in work said that they heard Kone considering retirement. I believe there was a behind closed doors game for him and Oviedo planned this week

Tedster

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Is there any insurance policies taken out on these players - 6 million down the pan otherwise!

andyjsb

Ed025{Ed025's Note - i heard he was back next week andy, and yes they are all covered by insurance mate..

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Any chance of a vote on "Do you think Kone will play for Everton in a first-team game again? 'Yes' or 'No'"?

Cowpat Sid 2 Cowpat Sid 2

Ed01{Ed001's Note - added that as a poll of the day for the future, thanks.}

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29 Oct 2014 13:18:50
Anyone know when we can expect Kev back?

I know that we're all talking vaguely about the end-of-the-yearish, but I was wondering if anyone had any more precise info?

JohnAnt

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Bobby said kev will be assessed again after next FIFA day meant 20 Nov. around.

sitea

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26 Oct 2014 21:35:04
Well done to the winners of the October Correct Score Competition
1st - tomhen 32 pts
2nd - rosowl 29 pts
3rd - ormerodm 28 pts

The page has now been updated for the start of the November comp - Good luck to everyone and a reminder it is open for everyone to join in.

Cheers
Ed 003

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25 Oct 2014 05:16:04
Have we heard anything about the New Stadium or was that just pie in the sky!

Aussie Toffee

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There will be a period of consultation with residents to let them air concerns. No actual plans have been made public yet. In the meantime the club need to prove that they can finance it. Very early still i'm afraid.

Coop85

Ed01{Ed001's Note - it is certainly not pie in the sky, Kenwright is very sure that he has the financial backing in place to make it reality. That is why this step has been taken. He has been trying to secure the finances for years, and has only made steps when they have been in place, such as the Kirkby debacle. He would never have even begun consultation without the finances being there for that proposed stadium, and he wouldn't now either.}

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So ed does that mean you no were the investment is comin from

shakey30

Ed01{Ed001's Note - no, sorry, not who. Though I am told it was in big part due to Elstone.}

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Think its about time he brought somethin to the table

shakey30

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17 Oct 2014 19:21:57
Now atsu is getting personal abuse, aren't our fans so welcoming and caring to new additions

Swan

Ed025{Ed025's Note - probably you swan!.. :)

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12 Oct 2014 05:25:19
Heard we are in for asamoah possibly as a target for the winter. Quality player and could be a good replacement for pienaar but a cb like nastasic should be the priority.

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15 Oct 2014 14:46:28
do you honestly believe a centre back like nestatic is good enough to shore up our leeky defense. I think Jags will come good in the 2nd half of the season and will further cement his place along side stones. If we are looking already for his replacement it would need to be a centre back who holds qualities such as hard tackling, good positional sense, pace, power, leadership and also the ability to move the ball out from the defense as stones does. The obvious comparison to this type of player in the prem is currently gary cahill, but past defenders such as desailly is the mould of player we need to be looking for, I certainly do not think nestatic cuts the mustard and is too slow (although his positioning is very good).

huytonbluecraig

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09 Oct 2014 19:21:31
If Jags pulls a hamstring tonight, Yobo signs tomorrow!

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09 Oct 2014 23:00:33
and if jags scores, then lukaku goes into central defence

dixie normus

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Let's see if you were right Dixie!

BlueTron

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06 Oct 2014 20:23:27
.rumours flying around tonight that Sylvain Distin has either left the club or taken a period of time out to stay away from Finch Farm after being heavily critiqued by Roberto Martinez after the defeat to Swansea in the Carling Cup. just when things couldn't get worse, we now appear to have dis-harmony creeping into the squad as well.

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I hope this is not true. The Swansea game was terrible granted, but although Distain has not been at his best this year you have to consider that he is probably in his last professional season and we can't forget the previous seasons he has been excellent for us would hate him to leave under this type of circumstances. Plus this would mean playing Jagielka and Alcaraz while Stones is out, we should really have kept Duffy in my opinion.

Seanmcc1985

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It's good for the hair though apparently. Distan was poor and if he doesn't like the manager having a go at him tough. It's time Bobby got stuck in to a few others IMO.

Woburnblue

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Distan is 37, and although he has not been at his best, he is far from the most guilty in our defensive. He is the most dedicated players, first in, and last out in training, and his fitness level in way ahead of player much younger, that type of commitment would not go amiss with LUKAKU, and several more who are earning big money for being 70% or less fit.

JCW100

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But look at home many conceded goals he contributes to - he's often the person who screws something up in the penalty area - he panics and just lashes his feet at the ball when he doesn't need to and it often bounces into the wrong area and we concede a goal

He's been a liability for a while now though he did a good job for a few years and like he said himself we are a club who couldn't afford better than him at the time

It does make me wonder though how much fitness vs skill is important in determining whether someone makes it as a pro footballer - I mean he really has quite limited ball skills doesn't he?

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I think your being a it harsh on him. He has been a stand out performer for the past few years he's a no nonsense old fashioned defender. He was a pivotal part of why we got in Europe. I have major concerns about what we do for the next few games I would rather play hibbert centre back (if colemans fit) than Alcaraz

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The fact is with jagielka now 32 and Distin 37, that there is no way that Duffy should have been allowed to leave the club without being replaced

Bluenose Will

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Not sure it's fair to just keep players like Duffy sitting on the bench year in year out just in case you need him once in a blue moon if you've got 3 cb injuries at once

Latchfordlad

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But we did replace Duffy when we signed Brendon Galloway in the summer. If these rumours are true, then Brendon is a better prospect than Alcaraz.

Daveyboy Blue Daveyboy Blue

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I was told by my Wigan buddies that Martinez would have an initial buzz but his training methods and philosophy would eventually having us scoring goals but also conceding many. That now appears to be coming true. Unfortunately Roberto is similar to Moyes in as much as he does not have a Plan B. I am old School in as much as I do not care how we play as long as we win and 1-0 every time would do for me.

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