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23 Aug 2023 19:30:23
Being reported that MSP have walked away from making their investment in the club.

Makes our financial predicament even more worrying.

Gingerdan

1.) 23 Aug 2023 20:35:51
Straightforward loan apparently. No idea but suspect Moshri is overvaluing the Club. Maybe MSP's diligence found the skeletons.


2.) 23 Aug 2023 21:19:31
FM to restart talks with 777, which is not great at all.


3.) 23 Aug 2023 22:43:48
A Chairman to chicken to turn up to home games, an owner who has no clue about football (probably still taking advice from those whose vested interests are not Everton) and without his Boss it would appear lost on what to do.


4.) 24 Aug 2023 08:40:43
I read it had to do with one of our outstanding loans/ investments. That we can’t take on new investment until that one is paid off or something. If that’s the case we’re screwed.


5.) 24 Aug 2023 10:49:39
I read similar but the article kind of eluded to this other loan being like a first charge like a mortgage over a secured loan scenario so if the club went tits up they would get paid out first, which with all the other things hanging over like FFP it could be a possibility
MSP I read wanted this other loan to relinquish that clause
Maybe still room to negotiate and they are leveraging for better terms which are more favourable against the risk.


 

 

06 Jul 2023 19:04:14
Looks like simms is definitely off somewhere as wasn’t at start of pre- season training.

With all the clubs rumoured to be in for him (Coventry, Sunderland, Swansea and a few others) it’ll be interesting to see where he goes and how much we get for him or whether he’s involved in a deal with a player coming our way.

Gingerdan

1.) 06 Jul 2023 19:25:37
Looks like it's Coventry.


2.) 06 Jul 2023 21:00:10
£8million deal agreed with Coventry
For Simms. Gyokeres almost done with sporting. Gets worse.

{Ed025's Note - i think we missed a trick here pierre, surely a deal could have been done somewhere along the line with a player plus cash scenario, or maybe Gyokeres just wanted Sporting mate?..


3.) 06 Jul 2023 21:13:34
The trick we missed was not signing him last summer for under 10 million and signing Maupay instead. If he is wants to go to Sporting, and who could blame him, there’s no deal to be done. Been a frustrating few windows now and doesn’t look plain sailing this time either.

{Ed025's Note - im still hoping that we will have a new look side for the forthcoming season JB, mind you i was hoping that the weather girl Jo Blythe would ask me out on a date.. :)


4.) 06 Jul 2023 21:56:02
Why buy Gyokeres who Simms out scored at a worse championship team?
I think he's too slow for the prem and isn't an out and out number 9 which we desperately need.
Maybe in a 2 he could do something but the fact he's been available for weeks and no one else from the prem has had a sniff says it all.
If he was good enough he's the right price for a Brentford, Brighton, West ham or Palace who all need reinforcements up front.
Personally I think he was Frank's choice and it would have gone south if we'd got him last season.
For a similar price, if he was available someone like Broja would be a safer bet.


5.) 06 Jul 2023 22:01:28
Jo Blythe, We all hoped that Ed! As you’ve said, Ed, I’ll reserve judgement until mid August, when hopefully we’ll have bought at least 4 or 5 new players in.

{Ed025's Note - well thats what im hoping for JB, especially the Jo bit.. :)


6.) 06 Jul 2023 22:04:25
Most definitely Ed. I know it’s a gamble buying a player like Gyokeres, but it still feels like we’ve missed something there. And, yet another player leaving the already depleted squad. I know that logic would tell you that they must have realistic targets in mind and are working on them so we don’t start the season in a weaker place than we scraped by last season, but, we are Everton at the end of the day and I’m braces for the worst possible scenario over the next few weeks.

{Ed025's Note - i actually have a good feeling about the forthcoming season pierre, now that might sound daft at the moment but i think...nay hope, that with Sean we can build something that resembles an old school everton side.....or maybe im just turning into....Guernsey Blue.. :)


7.) 06 Jul 2023 22:38:29
Haha, I admire your optimism Ed and I love GB. I hope you’re both right.

{Ed025's Note - so do i mate..


8.) 07 Jul 2023 11:57:41
habe to agree with smit666. iv seen gyökeres play a couple times and he's way to slowconsidering his technical ability isn't the best. 20 million for him is a rip off imo.


9.) 07 Jul 2023 18:28:39
Ed, with no pace the Coventry striker would have been another disaster which we would have been trying to get rid of post haste.
Definitely dodged a bullet there and in all probability Simms will become a better player, so good business done by Coventry.

{Ed025's Note - you could be right fancy, i suppose i just wanted somebody..anybody to get the ball rolling mate, desperation i suppose..


10.) 07 Jul 2023 22:08:13
Everyone is going on like we were actually after him, nobody knows if we were or not, paper talk along with every other Tom dick and harry, just wait and see what happens, couple of sales now, so it's only a matter of time before we actually see some players come in .
Personally Jack Harrison would be a smart move, I'm not convinced the young lad from Leeds is what we need, we need experience to keep us away from the wrong end of the table, so can't rememeber how to spell his name, also what about Dakar of Leicester, has pace and even thou didn't score to many imagine him pick off balls fro. DCL and then some one the other side with Pace and goals we are half way to top 10 ?.


11.) 07 Jul 2023 23:33:47
I’d take Tom, Dick or Harry if any of them can put the ball in the net….


12.) 08 Jul 2023 07:47:04
Gyökeres is a great striker has has got everything that’s needed to be a success in any team or in any league, just the type we desperately needed but it looks like the lad wants to play in Portuguese league
Massive miss for us but maybe it’s better he goes to Europe and not to one of the Premiership rivals.


13.) 09 Jul 2023 13:31:11
Bar pace, Uran, which is something that is needed in the premier league. We will never know now though mate.


 

 

03 Jul 2023 12:58:32
Any info on the £34m bid for El Bilal Toure rumours that are circling?

Seems a lot of money for one player considering our current predicament and strange that we’d go that high for him yet not go in for Gyokeres, ndiaye or Piro who would potentially be available for less.

Gingerdan

{Ed025's Note - i heard that it was closer to £40M for Toure dan, Gyokeres looks set for Lisbon mate..


1.) 03 Jul 2023 13:30:17
Is this a goer than Ed? Or just paper talk?
From the clips I’ve seen, looks to have the physical attributes to do well in the Prem, scores a few goals in La Liga and has a trick or two up his sleeve. At 21, could be a wise investment.

{Ed002's Note - El Bilal Toure (S) An option to Gyokeres for Everton and of interest to Wolves. Almeria has rejected a low offer from Atalanta who see him as a Hojund replacement know that Mateo Retegui will move on, would demand his full buy out clause be paid in a single payent - and it is €40M. Prior interest of West Ham remains. Milan interest has gone.}


2.) 03 Jul 2023 14:16:16
Don't know how our finances are but I'd be shocked if our bid is true. I just don't see us spending that much on a striker with so many other positions to cover too, but what do I know,!


3.) 03 Jul 2023 15:18:31
We’ve apparently put an offer of €40m in today according to some journo via the echo.


4.) 03 Jul 2023 15:48:29
Looks like could have legs as the source is the same guy that broke the news about Onana joining.

However whether Almeria agree to our payment plan is another matter.

Seems like a risk spending so much on a young striker as we’ve a shocking track record of doing that (Ramirez and onyekuru) .

However good to see we’re addressing the striker issue which for most of us would be main area we need to improve.

Whilst not great, if that is all we can spend then:

Defence should be ok with - Coleman, garner, Patterson, Godfrey, Keane, Tarkowski and mykolenko.

Midfield is covered with Onana, McNeil, iwobi, doucore, garner and gueye.

If any of those leave then we’ll need to replace them.

However if we’re savvy in the loan market and free players we could improve the squad for the start of the season.


5.) 03 Jul 2023 15:53:51
Yep in four or five instalments apparently.


6.) 03 Jul 2023 18:53:38
£35 million for him is far too expensive. Huge gamble on an average looking player. He is athletic but his technical ability, particularly his linkup play and passing is average at best.

On another note, that defence is far from ok but each to their own. If we head into the season with that defence we go down. Simple.


7.) 03 Jul 2023 19:54:11
BN how do you know he’s too much? Have you followed his career or going off a YouTube video of him?

As for the defence, I think with a full preseason under dyche we’ll see an improvement - also got branthwaite coming in which will help.

Personally think goals are what we need and if buying a striker prevents recruiting defensively then so be it.


8.) 03 Jul 2023 20:26:04
I know he is too much as there are plenty of other strikers available at much cheaper prices who have much better goal records and better attributes. Followed his career no, but we were linked with him in previous windows when he was still at Reims. If anything YouTube videos make bad players look good not good players look bad.

We will see an improvement under Dyche but that doesn’t mean that the defence you listed is good enough to go into a PL season with.

Patterson - still a kid and hugely inexperienced, not to mention physically unreliable.

Coleman - year older and had a bad injury before the season ended.

Garner - although a very talented player who I rate highly, is not a defender.

Godfrey - since C.V., a shadow of what he showed us previously.

Keane - utter garbage.

Tark - no comments.

Mykolenko - worst of the lot.

Branthwaite - happy the lad is back and has great scope but we are still in the dark of how good he will be in the PL.

Goals are very much what we need but you need strong foundations for the rest of the team to be effective. Why spunk the whole transfer budget on one unknown quantity when we could be smarter and get 2 strikers in for the same price and potentially defensive reinforcements as well.

To do the former would show yet more negligence and that we have not learnt from previous mistakes.

{Ed025's Note - are their any players you actually like BN?, no comment on tarks ?ffs, now im not saying our defence is great but they are nowhere near as bad as you are painting it mate, if sean wants Toure then im willing to take his experience and know how over yours, lets see how we are fixed at the end of this window before we start making assumptions and see if we can enjoy the ride..


9.) 03 Jul 2023 20:50:29
The no comments on Tarks was because he is the only defender who has no question marks and is a quality and reliable defender.

I haven’t painted anything. I am looking at the facts and what we have been shown by all the players listed. Patterson has shown good signs but has fitness issues so it doesn’t matter how good a player is if he doesn’t play. Mykolenko should not be playing for Everton football club or any PL team. Garner i said I rate but it’s more square pegs and round holes. Keane is dreadful and has shown us as much in the 7 years he has been here. The defence was suspect last year and now we have no Mina and Coady.

I didn’t say I don’t trust Dyche. I think Dyche is great and if he wants Toure, then so be it. My point was that he is not worth anywhere near 35/ 40 million and certainly not worth wasting our entire budget on.

I’m not making any assumptions and don’t imagine the team will be the same come the end of the window. I’ve commented on the players we have at our disposal as things stand and clearly said in response to GD. If the defence remains the same as that list. We go down. Not entirely sure how that has been misconstrued.

{Ed025's Note - i agree that Myko and Keane are not good enough BN, but i think the others can do a job, but of course thats just my opinion mate..


10.) 03 Jul 2023 21:06:26
I think Seamus can definitely do a job Ed but he is nearly 35 and has had some bad injuries in the latter stages of his career. I think Patt and Jared can certainly do a job but in the grand scheme, we are still in the dark on Patts ability to stay fit and whether Jared can cut it as a starter in the Prem (I think he can) . The lad is still 20 and I think we would be naive to not get another cb in to replace Mina/ Coady.

It would make sense to me to get somebody in like a Castagne or Maitland-Niles who is not going to cost a lot and can cover both fullback positions.

The same applies up top with Rodrigo. Spanish international and has shown he can score goals in the Prem. He can cover multiple forward positions and is apparently available for under 4m. Yes he’s old, with little sell-on value but with all our constraints he makes perfect sense to me. His price would also allow us to target a younger and different profile of striker at a bit of a higher price!

{Ed025's Note - we all have opinions on who we would like to buy BN, but thats the job of Thelwell and Dyche mate and we have to hope they get it right, seamus will only play a bit part i feel but his experience and love of the club will be vital for us imo..


11.) 03 Jul 2023 21:30:51
He is top class Ed and should/ will go down as one of our greatest servants irrespective of the fact he probably won’t ever win a trophy for/ with us. Maybe he will come back and do it for us as gaffer!

{Ed025's Note - i would like to see that BN, hes one of the greats for me mate well certainly of modern times mate..


12.) 03 Jul 2023 21:59:14
Of course we’ve got some replaceable players, don’t think anyone’s disputing that. At some point someone thought they were good enough. Holgate, Keane, Davies etc… were all lauded by some at one point. Getting rid of half the squad and replacing them with top talent and bargain prices is unrealistic. The aim should be to improve season on season, and from our starting point, that shouldn’t be too difficult. In regards to new players, It’s all speculation until we see them in action. £40 mill could end up being a bargain for the lad from Mali, or it could be a disaster. At least he’s young, and seemingly has some talent, which could mean he’ll be worth double in 3 years. Hoping to get a few through the door, every department needs strengthening if you ask me. Fingers crossed.


13.) 03 Jul 2023 22:14:14
It’s probably smoke and mirrors again. Everton are good at that.


 

 

19 Jun 2023 15:47:49
Just read Simms to Ipswich for £4.5m is almost done.

Hope we’ve got a striker lined up as selling one when we’re thinner up top than I am doesn’t sound great.

Gingerdan

1.) 19 Jun 2023 16:38:28
He's a reserve player and won't be missed.

{Ed025's Note - ipswich will be buying potential FBS, its actually a decent move for Ellis i believe mate...unfortunately in our position potential is not a priority as we need starters who can contribute immediately, but if it does come off i wish the guy well..


2.) 19 Jun 2023 17:00:58
From their point of view they are buying a player who’s shown he can score in the Championship and is likely to improve with every season. If he scores 15 goals next season people will be saying he’s worth 10-15 million. If we’re selling rather than loaning we really must need the cash. Hope he does well.


3.) 19 Jun 2023 17:38:08
4 million is a good amount for him.


4.) 19 Jun 2023 18:46:42
Hopefully a sell on clause included.

{Ed002's Note - That would reduce the fee Everton receive.}


5.) 19 Jun 2023 19:10:13
Ipswich are a quality side and he will score loads there. don't be surprised if they are right at the top end of the championship next season.


 

 

17 Jun 2023 15:51:50
Some more rumours of departures.

Iwobi has come out and said he wants to taste champions league football again. Can’t see that happening with us so he may be off, however can’t imagine we’ll recoup much for him if he goes, I’m also not sure a champions league team would come in for him.

West Ham also allegedly keen on branthwaite - hoping we don’t sell him as he looks a cracking player and should be starting for us next season. If we sell to West Ham that would be quite depressing.

Gingerdan

1.) 17 Jun 2023 16:35:40
Hope Branthwaite stays he has the makings of a good player, not bothered if Iwobi goes.


2.) 17 Jun 2023 17:07:03
Couple of Turkish teams get in the champs league so Iwobi should be good to go.


3.) 17 Jun 2023 17:14:31
Read a rumour that the fee is 6m ?

A young 6ft 5, left-footed 21 year old center back, who is good on the ball. Good one.

I think he will start the season next to Tark. Only problem is and because we are Everton. If he starts promisingly, a big club may try for him between the 1st game and the end of the window.

If that is the case I wouldn't be letting him go for anything less than 20m with a clause in, maybe a sell on fee or first refusal buy-back.

I am looking forward to seeing him play. Even from his Carlisle days, it was clear he possessed decent talent on the ball. Don't get me wrong, he didn't pull up any trees in the 10+ games for us but he certainly showed glimpses. If he has had the opportunity to grow into his body a little bit, get used to the man's game and gather some confidence, he could be like a "new signing" for us.

I wish him the best of luck. Seems like a nice lad to me and just happy to play football. Not to misquote the lad but he was asked a question in an interview, whether he would look for a move if we went down. He said something along the lines of "I am an Everton player, therefore if Everton want me for next season and it is in the Championship, I will play for the club with just as much happiness in the Championship as I would in the Premier League. "


4.) 17 Jun 2023 18:55:57
The lad is very young especially for a centre back. Hope to god he is offered an improved contract and given every chance to shine. If he said that JMW he'd be the player I'd give a jersey to.

Iwobi, champions league, again? Great stuff, who wants him? He did improve massively. However definitely time to cash in. Hope he does push for a move.


5.) 17 Jun 2023 20:24:39
Would be almost guaranteed a game with TNS.


6.) 17 Jun 2023 23:19:19
They can do one at 6 mill. Paper talk 99% nonsense.


7.) 19 Jun 2023 15:08:40
GD, you've taken the iwobi comments totally out of context mate. He was answering a question about playing in the Saudi league, which is quite topical right now. He dismissed playing there as he said he still wants to play in the Champions League again. That was it, he didn't say he wanted to leave us to play in that competition again, just the reason why he won't go to Saudi Arabia to play his football.
The club may want to move him on if he isn't going to sign a contract but it doesn't seem likely that he is pushing for a move just now.


 

 

 

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21 Jan 2024 18:40:50
So in the last hour seen we’re about to sign Jesse Lingard until end of the season and we’re about to be hit with a 15pt deduction.

Anyone know if either are true?

Is the 15pts on top of the 10 or includes the 10 we already have?

Gingerdan

1.) 21 Jan 2024 19:17:10
Don’t want Lingard and certainly don’t want another points deduction. Haven’t settled the bloody first one yet.


2.) 21 Jan 2024 20:12:16
Don't think i'm actually bothered anymore, can't see anything changing in football for a long time .
They will keep on paying high wages and transfer fees and we won't be able to compete along with all the other teams outside the top 6
Think I'm going to give it all a miss untill something changes but doubt it it will, money talks,


3.) 21 Jan 2024 20:21:23
No no to both mate.


4.) 22 Jan 2024 08:39:34
They need to sort the appeal out first before they can deal with the second charge.


5.) 22 Jan 2024 09:32:27
Hit with a 15 point deduction for what? We can't be hit with anything else until the second hearing has taken place which will be after the appeal hearing is resolved.


6.) 22 Jan 2024 18:08:26
The second charge can be dealt with before the first appeal. They are for separate accounting years and the second charge includes the year for the first charge.
The punishment has been set and taken off our total, that won't change until the appeal is heard.
The club aren't disputing there has been a breach they are disputing the harshness of the punishment which will have no bearing on the second charge.

If the club think the second punishment is correct and fair then they won't appeal. If it is deemed excessive I am sure they will appeal it. Likewise if they question the breach they will appeal that.


7.) 23 Jan 2024 08:24:50
They might be for separate accounting years but the transgression is the same, so I think it would be in the interest of the entire league that the second charge is considered once the outcome of the appeal in known.


8.) 23 Jan 2024 14:18:28
Don't know about the extra 5 pts but I did read (same article! ) . That Everton have been reducing their wage bill in order to show they can practice prudence. Another Journalist/ writer then says that a fine suits billionaire owners, a points deduction is right and a transfer ban is ridiculous. I think the last statement should be reversed. Surely a transfer ban encourages development of our own.


9.) 23 Jan 2024 18:50:05
A points deduction punishes the fans and puts the entire club in jeopardy. No one denies that we’ve been mismanaged, but when will common sense prevail.


10.) 23 Jan 2024 20:03:52
Read a comment (journalist) that the next punishment would be a disastrous transfer ban. I take the opposite view. A transfer ban for this current we are appealing would have made more sense. I read somewhere that the points deduction for PSR infractions was one the Prem Clubs agreed.


11.) 25 Jan 2024 18:59:28
I thought the maximum punishment was a 12 point deduction?

We’ve already received 10 and I heard the Prem were asking for 6 points for both us and Forrest.

The Prem have agreed that their rules are not fit for purpose and are being changed in August to come into line with UEFA/ FIFA

This is in line with our case of being hit with a double jeopardy being charged with 75% of the offence we’ve already been punished for.

If as i stated above the prem are asking for 6 points deduction for Forrest on their first offence then it would indicate that our 10 points may get reduced to 6

Do the Ed’s know if the 75% of the first charge that is subject of the second charge is 100% of the second charge or there is an additional 25% of misspending in the new years covered?

Hope that makes sense .

Thanks in anticipation.

{Ed002's Note - They are entirely separate matters. They will hear the appeal and then do the second charge where Everton will need to explain why they failed to action knowing they were in breach. Nottingham Forest will attempt to reach a settlement.}


 

 

20 Sep 2023 09:33:02
Lots of reports regards the current financial issues at the club including rumours struggling to pay day to day bills and mention of possibility of administration.
Without getting into the financial details is it as bad as some of the rumours say? And what do you think the future is for the club?
Thanks.

Gingerdan

1.) 20 Sep 2023 12:04:51
I know the board are not talking to us (fans) at the moment but the silence from the club on all of this is only adding fuel to the fire with all these rumours. Good or bad, the fans need to know what’s going on.


2.) 20 Sep 2023 12:33:06
Look Moshiri will not be looking to put any more of his money into the club, therefore he’s looking for loans to get him through. These loans will then be passed on to any potential buyers. Which in turn will be included in the final price for the sale.
Either way he stands to take quite a substantial hit in his pocket.

{Ed025's Note - what is the quickest way to become a millionaire? …be a billionaire then buy Everton.. ?


3.) 20 Sep 2023 12:56:29
You signed a striker for £25 mill less than a month ago.


4.) 20 Sep 2023 13:14:22
On tick LFIP.

Can't score if he doesn't get no service.


5.) 20 Sep 2023 13:46:19
He is strong and can hold the ball good. May be put a few crosses from wide areas. he might nick one. Correct me if i am wrong but isn't how Dyche plays his football?


6.) 20 Sep 2023 14:29:55
Maybe let a couple of players cross the halfway line we might create at least one chance to score if we do can’t score when everyone is parked in their own half.


7.) 20 Sep 2023 14:47:29
Of course we are paying wages and bills. We would have sold our big players in the summer otherwise and brought in nowt. Honestly, give news now, Goodison news, twitter or whoever as none of them know what's really going on.

The transfer window is closed so the papers are bored and doing daily commentary's on recycled stories.


8.) 20 Sep 2023 14:49:07
We've created more big chances than Arsenal and Newcastle this season! However, we've converted the 3rd lowest amount of them!


9.) 20 Sep 2023 14:59:12
Exactly BlueJohn.

The results not been there but the performances V Fulham and Wolves were very good just couldn't score and decent V Sheff Utd.

Arsenal, Villa admittedly woeful.


10.) 20 Sep 2023 15:01:03
I wouldn't in anyway listen to what the gossip pages are saying there's no football to talk bull rubbish about so now this, even Jim white never gets it right, if we are that bad then we should be in the championship now, saying that we still. might just the way we are playing, but still early days.


11.) 20 Sep 2023 15:22:44
We look doomed to put it lightly, one of the first signs of administration is not being able to pay your bills.


12.) 20 Sep 2023 15:40:29
If the rumours are to be believed then it doesn't matter how many points we amass this season, we might end up in administration. If that or relegation happens this year, next season could be the final nail in the coffin. The championship seems to be more stringent than the premier league when it comes to falling foul of the financial rules.
Hopefully, GD, it's not as bad as some news outlets, and I use that word loosely, have made out. Suppose it will all come out in the wash in the coming wks and months mate. It's a bit worrying though and will be until we are told it isn't true. Hopefully!


13.) 20 Sep 2023 15:39:57
No clubs are going to openly discuss their financial position with the fans or anyone else, we are all well aware of the club’s financial situation, the FFP issue has acted as a smoke screen, not allowing us to just simply lash out the cash on players, the truth is we couldn’t anyway, the owners keeps topping up the cash flow for what is needed on a monthly basis to save it from going into administration but it’s not his problem anymore, the fans wanted him out now he’s wants out, he has lost a fortune no doubt about that.


14.) 20 Sep 2023 15:54:55
Go and take back all the money kenwright has taken out of the club that would be a start.


15.) 20 Sep 2023 16:05:21
For LFC contributors, some of you seem to have a very short, and convenient memory.
Under hicks and gelett Liverpool came within 48hours of going into administration, saved by the bell, by the banks intervention.


16.) 20 Sep 2023 17:04:59
Ed it's all about other peoples money. Show me a poor Socialist. The person you think of as a millionaire is poor as a Church Mouse and pays no to little tax, others hold tjeir coats.


 

 

30 Aug 2023 20:51:52
Half time and got to say that’s the worst performance I’ve seen from our players.

You’d swear they’ve only just met each other tonight.

Simple passes going astray, poor tackles, no strength, no cohesion, no direction.

Bit early to say this but has dyche lost the dressing room? They don’t appear to actually care.

Gingerdan

1.) 30 Aug 2023 22:04:27
Well second half performance much better.

Beto totally changed the game, very impressed with him, strong, fast, knows where the goal is and took his goal very well.

Good substitutions from dyche and all made a positive impact - maupay included in that

Patterson, mykolenko, Keane and Dobbin didn’t do themselves any favours tonight.

Hopefully we see Beto and branthwaite start on Saturday.


2.) 30 Aug 2023 22:25:03
Beto and Gana made the difference, first half we had no midfield ag
Gana brought energy and combativeness and changed the completion of the game and Beto has everything we have been looking for in a striker.
But to struggle against Doncaster despite resting a few players is worrying,


 

 

31 Jul 2023 17:36:57
With all the queries regarding paying a supposed £15m on this youngster Chemetti from Sporting.

Would you rather that money was spent on him or Che Adams?

No other options just out of those two.

Gingerdan

{Ed025's Note - tough one Dan. Probably Che for me as he has the T shirt mate..


1.) 31 Jul 2023 17:58:18
Che Guevara better option for me!


2.) 31 Jul 2023 18:19:41
Adams every day of the week for me GD. Might not be prolific with goals but he is able to handle the physicality of the PL and it’s defenders. He would offer a focal point and can bring others into play to good effect.

The lad from Sporting may turn out to be a decent player but given our situation currently, I feel it would represent too big of a gamble to take.


3.) 31 Jul 2023 18:54:45
Blimey that's a good question that dan haha i would still take the lad from sporting lisbon mate we need someone in that box for crosses he's 6 ft 3 might be wrong but yeah i would only because he's young but its a massive gamble he might come in and do well he might not but we are being linked with same forwards joe piroe kelenchi adams the lad from sheff united whose just gone Marseille probly missed one or 2 more names out aswell but just my view.


4.) 31 Jul 2023 19:11:17
Neither fill me with confidence in all honesty. Che Adams isn't much of an upgrade on Maupay imo, but the Sporting lad hasn't played too many first team games with little return. Just shows us how far we have actually fallen from grace doesn't it?


5.) 31 Jul 2023 20:24:09
A sleeping policeman is an upgrade on Maupay.

Given our finances, I’d take Adams due to his experience and physicality.

If we could have both, I’d be happier.

{Ed025's Note - thats a terrible thing to say about a sleeping policeman BR..


6.) 31 Jul 2023 20:32:29
Similar type of players for me, BR and neither can be described as prolific. We'll see what happens over the next 24hrs, could be a lot more disgruntled blues tomorrow mate.


7.) 31 Jul 2023 20:29:42
I ha w to say che for me to, we've done the youngster from Italy who was supposed to be the next big thing, see how that turned out, would be ok if we had a very good squad and wanted one for the future but we dont, so che has the experience of the prem, plus he scored 10 goals last season in a team that went down, more than any other Everton player, so he's definitely an upgrade on what we have.


8.) 31 Jul 2023 20:42:46
Am sure the fat controller can hold the ball better up then maupay.


9.) 31 Jul 2023 21:18:18
Amazing that Maupay doesn't even look as if he is in exit plans.

{Ed025's Note - that is very worrying DFS..


10.) 31 Jul 2023 21:38:28
I think Maupay hasn't gone as he is going to be 1st choice if DCL is injured still. I'd rather play Michael Keane up front. They both same speed, but Keane will at least have a shot.


 

 

30 Jul 2023 11:32:39
So Sean has come out and said “ Everton are "working hard" to make new signings for the squad but have missed out on transfer targets this summer”

Now wasn’t Bill kept on because of his expertise in the transfer market?

Yet we’re missing out on targets, surely then it’s time for Bill to go as no idea what the point of him being at the club is anymore.

Gingerdan

{Ed025's Note - his time has well come and gone Dan, while he is still here it will be hard to move forward mate..


1.) 30 Jul 2023 15:40:03
Expertise is one thing, actually getting a player to want to come is another thing. We're a club in decline with an inept board that don't seem to know how to run a football club. Add to that we have limited funds to spend, players on silly wages that aren't at premier standard. We have an owner who takes advice from people he shouldn't listen to and he also gets trigger happy when things aren't going well. He promises the world but delivers absolutely f*ck all, we all remember his promise months ago to bring in a forward and yet, here we are,
still toothless in attack.
When your owner acts in a similar way to how the Watford board was ran a few years ago, there is only one place you end up and that's the championship. If we don't bring in a striker, and we falter from the start of the season, SD will be given his marching orders and we will be back in transition like we seem to have been throughout FM's tenure.
We can blame BK all day long, and yes he needs to go, but let's not kid ourselves that our problems will be solved when he goes. The owner is the major problem at the club and needs to sell. While BK is still there then the flak is kept away from FM, not daft is he?


 

 

 

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01 Feb 2024 18:17:06
Imagine the uproar if he does well for them and they stay up at our expense ?.

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01 Feb 2024 15:50:41
So Fancy would you rather have Nunez over Beto?

Nunez is fast, got decent control and can head a ball all things you require.

Yet he had 11 shots the other night, 5 on target, hit the woodwork 4 times, missed a penalty and didn’t score a single goal in the game.

I’d stick with Beto.

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01 Feb 2024 08:43:49
Wouldn’t give up on Beto.
Hasn’t had a lot of minutes and takes a while to settle into a new country and league.
I’m fairly confident we’ll see much improved performances from him next season - just hope we’re still in the premier league.

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29 Jan 2024 16:37:51
Thanks Ed that clears that up.

Danjuma has been a strange one for us, previously about to sign then at last minute joined spurs - didn’t do amazing there.
Then next window we signed him and he’s struggled for minutes and when given a chance not really taken it.

Hopefully if he does leave we then use that loan spot for a decent player that wants to join us and help in the relegation battle rather than just pick up a pay cheque ?.

Gingerdan

{Ed002's Note - Arnaut Danjuma (W) His agent and Villareal want him out of his loan at Everton early with Lyon talking to his club. Player is very unhappy being a bit part player only.}


 

 

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29 Jan 2024 11:19:52
How would we get him in on loan?
Thought we’d used all our loan allocations?

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16 Mar 2024 22:03:44
Brentford getting sucked right into the mess.

Find it quite funny that since Toney has returned they’ve nose dived - the way he talks about himself and his pushing for a move wouldn’t be surprised if he’s actually a negative impact on the team. Amazed Franck sticking with him.

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16 Mar 2024 22:01:46
Fair play he did score 2 goals today, however he missed an absolute sitter as well as not having a clue about the first goal he scored.

Unsure he’s cut out for premier league level but he’s doing well in the championship.

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28 Feb 2024 18:52:55
Sorry mocker - meant that if he was still injured but nearing a return then the contract would have to reflect that like a pay as you play deal as Gibbo suggested.

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28 Feb 2024 12:32:23
Would all depend on what the terms of the deal were.

There’s a player in there and he’s struggled with injuries since we signed him - would be good to see him play for us particularly after we’ve supported him through his troubles and injuries.

However would have to be at a much reduced wage to make it a viable option particularly if he remains injured.

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27 Feb 2024 13:57:57
Dentie it’s completely about the opposition.

Ellis has played 34 times in the championship this season and scored 6 goals!

He managed to get half his season total in one match the other night as was playing a team way below in the football pyramid.

Not sure why you say he puts it in the net when given the opportunity when his stats in the championship are so poor ??‍♂️.

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