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08 May 2017 14:32:38
Ok here is a very surprising fact for you all to ponder.
Lukaku with all of his goals has only produced 10 points for us this season (excludes assists) So had Lukaku not played for us we would be 10 points less than we have now, But we would still be in the same league position as we are now.

If nothing else that fact has made me look at him in a different light.

1.) 08 May 2017 16:46:21
Not a good way to look at it, are you saying he is only worth 10pts to us based on goal where he one us the game. He is the focal point when he plays well we usually get results and if he's bad usually we loose. He will be a massive lose next year if he goes, as we will not only need to replace his goals but add to them that's why we are 7th as if there was someone getting 10 - 15 as well that would be the difference, he's top goalscorer in league and we are 7th that tells you everything you need to know, and by the way take him out of the team and are top goal scorer is OG.

2.) 08 May 2017 17:37:49
I would agree not a good way to look at it but i think you are over-stating his value. Yes he scores goals but if he is not actually scoring he offers very little. Touch is poor, doesn't run the channels, won't chase lost causes. So when you away from home, under the cosh, as per Man U a few weeks ago - he may as well not be there.

Look at Costa - doesn't score the same no. of goals but i bet not many Chelsea supporters would rather have Rom. Aguero, Suarez, Sanchez all offer far more than just goals

I am not comparing the two but Marcus Bent scored nowhere near the goals Rom does - but gave far, far more to the team.

Something between the two would be ideal.

3.) 08 May 2017 19:26:58
Let's face it boys golden boot only because he's had most goals put on a plate for him he's not a team player he spat his dummy out with Williams a couple of weeks ago. A bigger worry is the next top scorer is Barkley with 8.

{Ed025's Note - oh what i would give for prolific midfielder who scored on a regular basis AB..

4.) 08 May 2017 20:50:57
I'm not actually saying anything TrueBlue, I am merely stating a fact and also mentioned that the fact does exclude assists. It is not meant as a critique nor is it meant as a pat on the back.

It is just a fact nothing more nothing less.

5.) 08 May 2017 21:47:03
I'd love to know what time goals were worth last season. we had one of the worst home records in Europe. don't forget that. don't be too hasty to dismiss the most prolific striker we've had in 30 yrs.

{Ed025's Note - fair point mate..

6.) 08 May 2017 22:57:09
Why would we only be 10 points worse off. You are assuming we would have dropped all those 10 points, who's to say with all our play being fed to Lukaku, some of the others may have scored, everyone is saying goals from others are a poor return, could that not be down to all our play being directed to Rom, if you look at Lukaku goals rarely is he the first goal scorer, he does seem to score when we have a lead, so be interesting to know the stats on how many 1 nil win goals he has scored.

7.) 09 May 2017 16:01:28
The games where lukaku has been the only scorer and we have gone on to win are 1. That was away to Sunderland where he scored a hat- trick. This season he has scored zero goals in a 1 - 0 win. He has scored in two 1 - 1 draws against Man City away and home to Crystal Palace. We have won 4 games where he scored more than 1 goal. We have lost 1 game away to Watford where he scored more than 1 goal.



09 Apr 2017 21:34:38
Good result today and an important one that could bode well for us regarding pressure.

We now only need 11 points for us to guarantee us 7th place and European football next season. That is if Southampton Win every game they have left, Should they lose one we only need 8 points. Now 8 points with the final run in we have is very achievable.

We should win all of our games with the exception of a draw against Chelski and a defeat against the Gooners. If the Gooners go into panic mode and we end up playing our last game of the season to snatch 6th place from them then I think we will win that game. Very nice first season RK. Next season we want to be fighting for 4th and 3rd.

1.) 10 Apr 2017 07:23:14
Phil Neville is right to a point. RK is the signing of the summer and in my opinion we are playing better football (far more constructive and solid) , home and away than we did under Martinez. Up to a point means, with the inclusion of RK's brother, Walsh as DoF, retaining of big Dunc and last but not least Mr Moshri's arrival sparking a whole turn around in philosophy, ambition and the confidence which has brought about the consistency needed at this level. We are almost certain to lose Lukaku in the summer but no doubt Mr Walsh and Mr Koeman already have someone in mind plus others which next season will hopefully take us onwards and upwards. COYB.

2.) 10 Apr 2017 11:39:00
In my honest opinion, sadly at moment we have two teams a home team full of attack and promise and a away team far less so . The so called big teams play the same way home and away we need to do the same we could do no worse than we have.



15 Jan 2017 15:49:39
Today showed us that negotiating on transfers is very important. Take John Stones for example £50m + an assist. No wonder it takes so long.



15 Aug 2016 14:04:18
Apparently Yannick Bolasie has signed a 5 year deal with us. Cost £25 million plus add ons.

1.) 15 Aug 2016 16:56:49
22,5 plus addons.

2.) 15 Aug 2016 18:17:52
Yes Bill once again you are correct. At the time I wrote the above it had not been confirmed and was still a rumour. I see I was correct at least in spelling his name right .



14 Aug 2016 11:19:06
What do you think of this for a stat?

Yesterday our new signing Gueye made more tackles than the whole of Spur's midfield made during the match.

That is one heck of a stat.

{Ed025's Note - im very happy grumpy.. :)

1.) 14 Aug 2016 11:29:07
What a little player this fella looks!

2.) 14 Aug 2016 11:51:49
Wow looks a great little player.

3.) 14 Aug 2016 12:14:02
He looks a real good player gives us something extra in midfield and really good passer as well.

4.) 14 Aug 2016 12:21:02
Does anyone else think we'll get more than the 3-4 players ron has said we'll get? Need a keeper 2 strikers I'd rom goes looks like we're in for 2 left wingers still need a creative midd another CB kone?

The 4 players needed doesn't seem enough for me.

5.) 14 Aug 2016 12:35:37
That will do us till January tho.

6.) 14 Aug 2016 13:03:35
Need a striker and an attacking centre mid asap. If lukaku is injured we lack up top and we need a goal threat from the centre of the park.

7.) 14 Aug 2016 13:19:06
He probably made more tackles and interceptions than our whole team combined in the last 5 games of last season.

8.) 14 Aug 2016 13:45:12
It looks like Bolasie is coming, and Koeman has said he wants another CB. We are in for Ghezzal and I hope we get him as he's quick and skilful and Mata is a possibility too.

9.) 14 Aug 2016 13:45:12
It looks like Bolasie is coming, and Koeman has said he wants another CB. We are in for Ghezzal and I hope we get him as he's quick and skilful and Mata is a possibility too.




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20 Jul 2017 15:28:26
Does anyone know if a player is purchased for say £10m and a season later sold for £8m is the £2m lost tax deductable?

{Ed002's Note - No. the 8M is counted as income.}

1.) 20 Jul 2017 16:22:16
Ed, Is the £10m a tax deductible cost then?

{Ed002's Note - It is an expenditure. Why are you interested in tax deductables?}

2.) 20 Jul 2017 16:30:24
Thanks Ed. Intrigued after reading Grumpy's comment above.



09 Jul 2017 18:05:49
SSN Reporting Mr Rooney will have the number 10 shirt.



08 Jul 2017 12:34:12

I am absolutely shocked by what that idiot wrote.

If I return the hamper for my post of the week will you come back?

p. s the tin of pork luncheon meat has been eaten sorry.

{Ed002's Note - Thaks for the kind words - later today or tomorrow - perhaps after van Dijk signs this afternoon.}

1.) 08 Jul 2017 13:58:54
Why are we interested in Dick Van Dyke are we Ed?

2.) 08 Jul 2017 14:08:43
Now that has to be the tease of the week so far, talk about leaving people in suspense. Welcome back Ed002.

3.) 08 Jul 2017 15:06:09
Well I've sent him the hamper back Rhapsody so why not lol.



06 Jul 2017 14:41:50

There are times when ED002 gets up my nose by not answering a question and trying to put the author down, but I feel the way he handled wirralblue was the exact right thing to do.

Guys we need to remember that the mods ( ED002 in particular ) are very knowledgeable about things that are going on off the field of many clubs, they share their vast knowledge with us and very rarely moan about stuff.

To abuse any mod, not just ED002, is bang out of order and in my opinion deserves an instant ban. When ED002 takes time to write an indepth answer to a FRESH question then myself, and I am sure many others, enjoy reading it, by asking the same question over and over will only get him annoyed, In fairness it annoys the heck out of me seeing the same question time and time again as well.

Guys we really need to stop saying stupid things like " We need a statement signing " " we have a so called warchest " " Lukaku sold us out "

If we don't like the bear roaring at us then we should stop poking it with the stupid stick.

Sorry for the rant.

{Ed002's Note - Post of the day - the hamper is on its way.}

1.) 06 Jul 2017 15:31:59
Thank you, Just felt it had to be said. You guys do a great job here and sometimes I think we forget that.

{Ed002's Note - Generally everyone is fine - a few that need scraping off the boot now and again.}

2.) 06 Jul 2017 16:11:46
Have to agree with you Grumpy the Eds do take a lot of stick on here, the majority of us all think they do a great job, their will always be a few oddballs but thankfully they are very few and far between, all the best Eds please keep up the great job you are doing for all of us cheers GuernseyBlue.

{Ed002's Note - Thanks GB.}

3.) 06 Jul 2017 16:39:56
Teacher's pets 😉.

4.) 06 Jul 2017 17:18:41
Couldn't have put it better myself Grumpy. These fellas give us their time and knowledge, least we can do is show them respect.

5.) 06 Jul 2017 21:53:38
The Eds are spot on. Its a thankless task they have and all of them do a damn fine job.

I think there is misunderstanding with some that come on here and some are just plain rude to them.

I do like a good argument though.



04 Jul 2017 14:16:02
ED002 There is a lot of talk especially here, that with our new signings, we will be a feasible threat to the top 6, and maybe the top 4 teams. What is your view on this? do you think it is a valid claim or are we still ( in your opinion) a number of signings short of that?

{Ed002's Note - I think it will be a tough ask to get in to the top four but the last couple of seasons have seen other sides bunching up around the EL places.}

1.) 04 Jul 2017 14:23:54
Thanks for the honest reply.

2.) 04 Jul 2017 14:55:24
Good post Grumpy. I agree it is a big ask. We are improving obviously.

Top 4? Isn't it tough for everyone?

I mean Chelsea, Man City, Man Utd, Tottenham, Liverpool and Arsenal. Can one of these categorically say they are definitely going to finish top 4 next season?

Imho no so why can't we finish in top 4? Arsenal didn't qualify for champions league in something like 21 years. The season before last Chelsea finished 9th and won the league last season. We all know about Leicester and we all know who used to recruit for them and is now at Everton.

Heard all the excuses before. The Chelsea team wouldn't play for Mourinho. Leicester was once in a lifetime thing. Fact is it happened.

My point is the top 4 is no done deal. We have as good a chance as any of getting into it. I generally try to be positive and honestly think we can compete at the very top.

3.) 04 Jul 2017 15:16:16
Top 4 is too big a dream for me whilst our signings get used to each other. I expect improvement but we're still short of being as good as the real big boys just now.

I personally would be exceptionally happy to copy Man Utd from last year, finish top 6, win the League Cup and Europa and sneak a Champions League spot that way. It would be a fantastic improvement imo.

4.) 04 Jul 2017 15:14:08
I think the first 5 or 6 games will shape our season.

{Ed025's Note - i dont know about that bluey, the side will probably get stronger as the season goes on and they learn about each others game, plus we have a very difficult start mate..

5.) 04 Jul 2017 15:59:33
My expectations have not been raised at all. The reality though is our core squad is now very very young and full of potential. Next season is way to soon, the season after probably is as well. I'm excited for the season after if we can keep Pickford, holgate, Kenny, Keane, gana, Davies, lookmam, Sandro and Lewis. That's a team that could play together for 10 seasons. If they get a trophy of any sort along the way it would be the first of many in my opinion.

{Ed025's Note - i think with the players we already svenny that it could be sooner, if they gel quickly we can still do some damage this coming season but i get your point mate..

6.) 04 Jul 2017 16:01:13
We have a chance at the top 4 but think top 8 will be more realistic. Our squad is stronger so we should finish somewhere between 1 and 8 I reckon we will be 5th.

7.) 04 Jul 2017 18:47:27
I think that one of the key factors is going to be how quick we gel and if our new players can actually play along side each other.

{Ed025's Note - thats right grumpy..




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21 Jul 2017 13:15:07
No problem mate, they don't call me grumpy for nothing :-)



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20 Jul 2017 20:34:52
In fairness to you bluetooth I could only find that one post of yours stating an opinion.

The majority of your others posts see you moaning about someone elses post.



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20 Jul 2017 17:27:49
You're right Bluetooth it is my opinion and everyone reading most's who are not looking for a fight know that. If you do not want opinions but only facts you really should take a long look at some of your posts. (I will make this factual)

22 Mar 2017 09:53:50
Cant be going into next season with williams as a first choice centre back, not good enough. Jags is better and sadly he needs replacing.

Now is that fact because to me it looks like an opinion.

The majority of these forums are based on opinions, So sit down watch TV and write a letter of complaint about the program to someone, I'm sure you will feel better ( My opinion )



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20 Jul 2017 13:27:03
Floats I mostly agree with what you are saying mate.
Firstly that he has been advised he needs a bigger club, now when he was first advised that it was good advice, we could not support his dreams, but now we can, we are a bigger club and in my mind he could get no better in way of improving his skills. In other words he can become a better player with us than he can anywhere.

Now if he has been advised otherwise and he has chosen to believe it then more fool him. I think everybody knows his best place is with Everton. Now his advisers who have financial interests in RB moving club, are either still turning his head away from Everton or they have advised him to stay with us and he is choosing to ignore that advice. Either choice makes him look foolish in the fans eye.

Personally I think he has dug a hole so large he feels he can not get out of it. Any player, at any club, know where their best prospects lie regardless of what they are advised, and again I do not feel RB is stupid enough not to know which side his bread is buttered on. So that begs the question why doesn't he stay?

I think that 2 years ago he was sold such a story of how good he was and that other teams will be beating the door down for him, that in his own mind he became one of the greats in football, the advice he took on board failed to take into account the fact he still had a lot of hard work ahead of him to reach that status. So the chances are that up-to the beginning of this transfer window and the fact that Everton have offered him such a good contract he still believes he is god like on the pitch and teams will be knocking his door down.

This transfer window and the fact that no one is really showing any interest in him (so far) will no doubt be a massive eye opener for him and leaves him little option about what to do next, does he sign a contract he has already turned down? Or does he wait it out hoping a giant club will jump in for him?

At 24 he is still a young person and pride takes control a lot of the time, I can remember many a time in my life pride has enabled me to make decisions, sometimes the right ones and sometimes the wrong ones, The fact it is in the public domain he has been offered ( and turned down ) a very good contract will feature heavily in his decision. So his advisers saying leave coupled in with him turning things down and pride means it does not bode well for us.



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19 Jul 2017 19:27:23
As poor old RB will soon find out Ed0025 :-)




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13 Jul 2017 22:05:06
Oy PierreLeBlue

There's only enough room for one moaning, grumpy old git on here and that's me :-)



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10 Jul 2017 15:37:34
Apparently it's blue :-) :-) :-)



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10 Jul 2017 11:30:50
He did look good yesterday

It looks as though he has shed a few pounds.

And anyone who publicly admits to wearing Everton Pyjama's is not going to take any crap on the field.



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08 Jul 2017 15:06:09
Well I've sent him the hamper back Rhapsody so why not lol.



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08 Jul 2017 15:04:24
100% agree Bluegray87. It was so emotional watching him break down and start crying. Just watching that bought a big lump to my throat.
Thumbs up to Defoe a true man.