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09 Apr 2017 21:34:38
Good result today and an important one that could bode well for us regarding pressure.

We now only need 11 points for us to guarantee us 7th place and European football next season. That is if Southampton Win every game they have left, Should they lose one we only need 8 points. Now 8 points with the final run in we have is very achievable.

We should win all of our games with the exception of a draw against Chelski and a defeat against the Gooners. If the Gooners go into panic mode and we end up playing our last game of the season to snatch 6th place from them then I think we will win that game. Very nice first season RK. Next season we want to be fighting for 4th and 3rd.

1.) 10 Apr 2017 07:23:14
Phil Neville is right to a point. RK is the signing of the summer and in my opinion we are playing better football (far more constructive and solid) , home and away than we did under Martinez. Up to a point means, with the inclusion of RK's brother, Walsh as DoF, retaining of big Dunc and last but not least Mr Moshri's arrival sparking a whole turn around in philosophy, ambition and the confidence which has brought about the consistency needed at this level. We are almost certain to lose Lukaku in the summer but no doubt Mr Walsh and Mr Koeman already have someone in mind plus others which next season will hopefully take us onwards and upwards. COYB.

2.) 10 Apr 2017 11:39:00
In my honest opinion, sadly at moment we have two teams a home team full of attack and promise and a away team far less so . The so called big teams play the same way home and away we need to do the same we could do no worse than we have.



15 Jan 2017 15:49:39
Today showed us that negotiating on transfers is very important. Take John Stones for example £50m + an assist. No wonder it takes so long.



15 Aug 2016 14:04:18
Apparently Yannick Bolasie has signed a 5 year deal with us. Cost £25 million plus add ons.

1.) 15 Aug 2016 16:56:49
22,5 plus addons.

2.) 15 Aug 2016 18:17:52
Yes Bill once again you are correct. At the time I wrote the above it had not been confirmed and was still a rumour. I see I was correct at least in spelling his name right .



14 Aug 2016 11:19:06
What do you think of this for a stat?

Yesterday our new signing Gueye made more tackles than the whole of Spur's midfield made during the match.

That is one heck of a stat.

{Ed025's Note - im very happy grumpy.. :)

1.) 14 Aug 2016 11:29:07
What a little player this fella looks!

2.) 14 Aug 2016 11:51:49
Wow looks a great little player.

3.) 14 Aug 2016 12:14:02
He looks a real good player gives us something extra in midfield and really good passer as well.

4.) 14 Aug 2016 12:21:02
Does anyone else think we'll get more than the 3-4 players ron has said we'll get? Need a keeper 2 strikers I'd rom goes looks like we're in for 2 left wingers still need a creative midd another CB kone?

The 4 players needed doesn't seem enough for me.

5.) 14 Aug 2016 12:35:37
That will do us till January tho.

6.) 14 Aug 2016 13:03:35
Need a striker and an attacking centre mid asap. If lukaku is injured we lack up top and we need a goal threat from the centre of the park.

7.) 14 Aug 2016 13:19:06
He probably made more tackles and interceptions than our whole team combined in the last 5 games of last season.

8.) 14 Aug 2016 13:45:12
It looks like Bolasie is coming, and Koeman has said he wants another CB. We are in for Ghezzal and I hope we get him as he's quick and skilful and Mata is a possibility too.

9.) 14 Aug 2016 13:45:12
It looks like Bolasie is coming, and Koeman has said he wants another CB. We are in for Ghezzal and I hope we get him as he's quick and skilful and Mata is a possibility too.



25 Jul 2016 20:04:17
Reports we have activated a minimum fee release clause for Stokes Arnautovic priced at £12 million.

1.) 25 Jul 2016 20:44:28
It's on sky Austria that we've signed him and could be presented tomorrow. Id true, didn't see this one cominh.

2.) 25 Jul 2016 22:05:54
I like him me and 12 million a steal.

3.) 25 Jul 2016 22:14:48
Fantastic football player. Always reminded me of Zlatan, only showed his class the last two seasons but if he played for a top 6 club would get far more plaudits, double the player Bjoan is at Stoke.
Hope this one is true but I heard he was off to the dark side.

4.) 25 Jul 2016 22:27:57
The sentinel newspaper says that Stoke are still hopeful of convincing him to sign a new contract and if not they would not except anything lower than 12.5 million in clause how can he signed for us if he is away with Stoke in America hope he does sign he is a quality player but believe it when i see it though.

5.) 25 Jul 2016 22:47:03
I think he would of gone if they had not signed wjnaldun. they got firmino
And wjnaldum who play left mI'd already.

6.) 25 Jul 2016 23:56:37
To be fair, negotiations can be done by representatives, if it comes to it his medical can be done by a third party. I don't know whether the rumor is true or not by the fact he is in a different country would not stand in the way.

7.) 25 Jul 2016 20:55:16
Any news on this ed strong reports coming out of his homeland 4 year deal be announced tomorrow.

{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any announcement due on Monday - I am only aware of what was discussed the other day that Stoke have said that he has been reluctant to sign a new contract (due primarily to wage demands) and that with his release clause there are two interested English sides (Crystal Palace and Everton) and residual interest from Sporting Lisbon. Stoke are unhappy that the player will not share is plans with the club and this has led them to make provision in looking for a replacement - and they will look to negotiations as soon as the situation becomes clear. Previously the player has said that he should be playing in the Champions League. So that leaves two English clubs, Everton and Crystal Palace, keen on Arnautovic but his wage demands are high and his expectation is Champions League. Certainly his wage demands would keep Sporting out of the picture. So we will see.}

8.) 26 Jul 2016 11:43:55
Sky Sports News website update from 11.20am says he is on the verge of signing for us. Fee £12.5 million.

9.) 26 Jul 2016 11:43:55
Sky Sports News website update from 11.20am says he is on the verge of signing for us. Fee £12.5 million.




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08 Feb 2017 12:51:38
Does such a thing as a central database exist, showing details and length of players contracts,
that is available for viewing by the general public?

{Ed002's Note - The International TMS database contains details of tansfers, fees and contract length. It is maintained by FIFA but the general public do not have access to it. It is available for professional clubs to use and one media outlet has access to it. Transfermarkt buys in a lot of similar data but only at the start of the season and it can be very innacurate - particularly the Englsh version where transfer fees are provided in GBP regardless of the currency of the transaction.}

1.) 08 Feb 2017 13:39:07
Thanks for that ED002.

Shame it's not available to the general public, especially us Northerners, I could spend hours each day checking on buy out clauses, whilst whittling a pair of clogs from the branches of the great oak tree, down yonder lane, whilst all the time wondering where the eck me pidgeons av buggered off to.



23 Jan 2017 15:34:56
When we are interested in a player from the UK, who's responsibility is it that the player arrives at the right place at the right time for a medical. Also when getting in a foreign player who arranges the flights and stuff before the medical?

If a player gets injured in a match AFTER clubs have agreed terms and player is subject to a medical, can the potential buying team claim any compensation?

If a player fails a medical due to something that all parties were previously unaware of, are any costs refunded to the potential buying team?

{Ed002's Note - (a) The player and his agent. (b) The buying club would pay expenses. (c) I don't really understand the question but if you are referring to the buying club claiming compensation for a player who belongs to another club then no. (d) No, but the costs will at that point be trivial.}

1.) 23 Jan 2017 19:40:40
Thanks Ed, It gives another insight into how things are done. I will admit answer (a) did some what surprise me. Thanks agaian

{Ed002's Note - Maybe Everton are different and mail teh player a bus ticket.}

2.) 23 Jan 2017 21:07:49
Got loads of money now we can even afford for them to get a taxi to the bus stop. ( within reason of course )

{Ed025's Note - love it grumpy..



17 Jan 2017 20:40:32
Here's another fact I was unaware of but I'm sure it will appear in an Everton quiz one day.

On Sunday we not only gave Pep his biggest ever league defeat but it was the first time in Evertons history that we have had 2 teenagers on the score sheet.

1.) 17 Jan 2017 20:47:44
The win made me feel like a teenager again Grumpy. However, I celebrated too much by hitting the bar and failed to score when I got home!

Worth it though!

2.) 17 Jan 2017 21:34:18
And these days it is no good playing away.

3.) 17 Jan 2017 22:00:47
This weekend was better than sex because it is one we will all remember for a long time yahaaay!

{Ed025's Note - love it grumpy..

4.) 17 Jan 2017 22:08:14
I was caught offside twice. Then there was the hand ball incident. Not to mention the blocking and obstruction? But when I got in the box I was magnificent!

5.) 17 Jan 2017 22:25:05
And no comments about me not performing and having to put the sub on please!

6.) 17 Jan 2017 22:28:41
Made me laugh Degsy. Have to thank you for that.

7.) 18 Jan 2017 08:14:04
Do you know mate (NBTB) . I split from my wife of 32 years .2 years ago. I have had a pretty tough time over the last 2 years and EFC did their best to make it worst! But all of a sudden, the weight has been lifted off me. My Son who went the game with me has suddenly grown 6 inches and the 2 of us are walking around with chests like Arnie Schwartzennegger. It's amazing how 11 men kicking a bag of wind around can make you so sad or happy! Any aliens watching us would never get in contact. they know we are all as mad as hatters!

8.) 18 Jan 2017 07:43:08
Haha get in there degsy. Loved that one.

9.) 18 Jan 2017 13:07:18
Previous post degsy, not the splitting from wife one.

10.) 18 Jan 2017 15:54:25
No worries mate. Its all good now. wife? what wife! lol



10 Jan 2017 21:47:49
So one long post from Grumpy at 15.45 hours
major new signing agreed 19.45 hours.


I Think Not

1.) 11 Jan 2017 13:50:13
Tallaghblue, in a word No.



10 Jan 2017 15:37:09
Well here we are again, 10 days into the silly season and the blue naysayers are out in force.

A blue naysayer is different to your typical naysayer in that they pretend it is the clubs best interests they have at heart, nothing could be further from the truth. Just because they put COYB or similar onto the posts they make does not make the post more valid, let me explain.

Quote " We have a so called £100 million to spend on players but we have not got any so far. RK is rubbish Coyb "

Quote " We have all of this so called money for players yet signed no one, another lie by moshri and Co, I love Everton "

Quote " Arguing over a paltry 2 million for Schniderline, get rid of BK. Everton are the best "

Quote " Moshri been here almost a year and still no agreement on ground we are a laughing stock, Everton forever "

Quote " Walsh not doing his job properly at our club, he got Southampton 50 billion players for a quid and got us nothing, Come on Everton "

Quote " I see we are going after players A, B, and C, Koeman and walsh don't know what they are doing we should be going after Players x, y, and z sack them both, long live the toffees. "

Quote " Whilst Walsh, Koeman and Moshri are in the club we will never progress, time for change I think, stick with the toffee "

Whilst the above quotes are not exact in the presentation they are a reasonable parody.

An alarming thing is that similar posts are popping up on a daily basis and appears to be gathering momentum, more and more people seem to be jumping aboard either this train or the " But " train, you all know that monster,

Quote " RK is doing a great job here BUT he is rubbish and should be sacked "

Quote " BK does a fantastic job negotiating BUT he is an old fart and should retire "

The nagging naysayers and the BUT brigade are formidable opponents, they will wear you down and turn you if they go unchallenged, so it is our job, no our duty to stand up to these fools no matter what guise they come in.

Let me address some common charges they bring during the silly season.

Q " We are supposed to have £100 million to spend on players "
A Say's who? Who from EFC has ever officially said this?

Q " We are arguing with Utd over a measly £2 million why not just buy him?
A Ok let's say we spend that extra £2 million. Now let's say we only have £40 million total to spend that is us paying out an extra 5% of our total transfer budget. Now if we are interested in 3 players and they will cost £45 million we need to negotiate every penny we can to get the price down to £40 million. Negotiating a better deal is the only way we will get the 3 players we want. It does not matter in the least if we can buy him 10 times over if the FFP says this season we only have x amount to spend on players then that is all we have.

Q " Why are we not looking for a player to play in? position, RK is a joke looking for the wrong players"
A Koeman is without doubt they ONLY person who really knows the order in which we need to buy in players and more importantly the budget available to obtain said players, he relays this to Walsh. On these forums we have some very knowledgeable people who understand the processes involved more than most, take Degsy he has been a manager of a professional football club in the past and understands the frustrations more than most.

Q " Why is BK still doing the negotiating for us? "
A BK has one of, if not, the Best reputations in the world for the negotiating of players, apparently he is absolutely ruthless and has the respect of every british and European club for it, Even the RS higherarchy respect him. He may take time but the £millions he has saved us because of that is amazing.

So to recap

1 We do have money, lots of it, but the FFP will not allow us to spend it on transfers.

2 Koeman knows where he needs to rebuild from.

3 Kenwright is still negotiating for us because the game has no one better.

4 Degsy really is very knowledgeable on how the internals of a professional club work.

I could go on but feel I really have little to add to what I have written so far. Be patient and COYB oh wait a sec did I just say coyb .

1.) 10 Jan 2017 16:15:23
Great post Grumpy no doubt there will be more naysayers before the end of the window also all these so called experts, i say leave it to Mr Walsh and R K I am sure they are far more aware of what needs to be done than us, GuernseyBlue

2.) 10 Jan 2017 16:58:56
Grumpytoffee, good realistic post agree on your end comments.

3.) 10 Jan 2017 17:05:45
I'm with you Grumpy people are always trying to see the worse in the way the club does things, I'm looking forward to the future with Moshiri, RK and Walsh all here and trust they are doing everything for the good of the club too many fifa and football manager supporters on here sometimes.

4.) 10 Jan 2017 17:51:55
I agree with some of your post Grumpy but whereas I am made up with Moshiri, Kenwright as Chairman still, Koeman, Walsh and the stadium progression, I am concerned as already stated about our transfer business and how poorly we APPEAR to perform in each window.

I'm not saying anything is fact and everything we hear is mainly hypothetical but maybe we can all take off our blue tinted glasses off sometimes and look at things from another perspective.

I like Koemans supposed targets and if correct the ones that ED002 has mentioned as well and I trust all things that come from the ED's. I can still have concerns though and because I love the club I will speak out over them. If I didn't then I wouldn't be a true fan and if I thought something didn't feel right and didn't say it then again I wouldn't be a true fan.

Some people attack the club and people running through spite and a cloud of hatred that has developed over the years in a false perception that Kenwright has been trying to ruin the club.

Some of us other fans have immense pride in how we conduct ourselves and what must be the best reputation any club has in football in work it does not just for it's own community but for other clubs as well.

Our club in my eyes is the best in the world and no other will ever come close to it. The current people running it will make it even better. I trust and believe in that.


5.) 10 Jan 2017 17:52:04
Grumpy it isn't kenwright I worry about in negotiations although he is a little to cautious for me at times, rather surprising given his profession.

6.) 10 Jan 2017 18:01:43
Enjoyable read Grumpy. You must have too much time on your hands sending in posts like that.

7.) 10 Jan 2017 19:20:31
Certainly living up to your name mate! I am laughing my socks off. Do you have steam coming out of your ears?

8.) 10 Jan 2017 20:34:14
Fully agree GuernseyBlue I'm not sure what brings them out, I'm sure by the standards of writing on some of the posts that teachers everywhere will be mortified, at least no one has said "Dude" yet.

Thanks for your comment Alwaysblue.

Lee1878 I echo your sentiments and I think you are right that the majority of those posters are busy getting all their info playing "Football Manager"

BlueJohnUs I enjoy reading your posts as I am sure most of us do. I don't think anyone has any objection to people voicing their concerns regards our club What gets up my nose in particular is voicing them in such a way that the club is all but doomed, the manager needs sacking and we need yet another investor. It's those type of posts that make toothache a welcome distraction. Personally I have no objection to posts that encourage banter.

MEverton I suppose it is because it has always been his own personal money at stake, imagine coming close to bankruptcy on a few occasions over a football club.

Tedster, Training squirrels at this time of year leaves me with plenty of time, can't find the pesky buggers anywhere.

And finally Degsy. Yes.

9.) 10 Jan 2017 21:01:13
100% Grumpy. Right there with you.




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14 Apr 2017 14:41:20
Be careful what you ask for GeoffJohno. Think for a moment what you have just asked for, no summer signings instead let our youth play.

Whilst most of us like to see our youth rising through the ranks I don't think many of us actually believe we have enough ready to play 1st team football on a regular basis.

We are a club that has attracted many international players to play for us or players who have hit the international stage whilst playing for us, now with all the best will in the world we will not get that many coming through the ranks.

For any team to be able to promote youngsters to the high standard we the supporters expect and demand we need seasoned players to show them how things are done. Seasoned and better players mean new signings. Don't stop signing players until a good one emerges from the youth side.



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02 Apr 2017 19:51:04
Here is my take on things.

We are not good enough yet.

Our league position is 100% down to RK, 7th is giving us all false hope and we are becoming dillusional about how good we are.

With no injuries and everyone playing to his best ability we would still be struggling against the big boys when they play on form. let's see what the summer brings and maybe even the next January window before we start blaming tactics for losing big games.

It will come but not just now.



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08 Feb 2017 13:28:24
Nice shot Blue76 Fully agree.



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07 Feb 2017 20:10:32
Degsy I am sure my bank works off the same maths sheet, especially when it comes to bank charges.



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07 Feb 2017 20:08:03
Aguero will never happen, Lukaku may stay provided he feels the club is headed in the right direction and could meet up with his high expectations. I think the cull that has just happened may go some way to showing him we do have good intentions. This summer will be a vital step in our Future.




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24 Apr 2017 13:20:43
provided they don't call it Wan King stadium.



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04 Apr 2017 23:37:12
Well said NBTB Fully agree with you. Good catching up with you again in live chat.



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23 Mar 2017 22:50:35
My mate Jakub from down the pub who happens to be a polish builder reckons 3 - 4 month build if he and his 3 man team get the contract. Says he will need 75% cash upfront :-)



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12 Mar 2017 16:47:56
This is new ground to us all NBTB we are all used to us having good runs only to throw it all away, and I think that's what Degsy was hinting at. ( Although I may be wrong) The proof is in the pudding, we now have the same number of points that we finished with last season, so now is the time for RK to really do his job.

This is the first time in many a season that we actually have something to fight for at this time of the year. In the poll at the beginning of the season I put us down for a 10th place finish ( or 11th not really 100% sure ) and I have to say I am so happy that I will be wrong on this one. let's just enjoy this trip into new territory and remember that next season will be better again.



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27 Feb 2017 11:09:44
Personally Ed002 I think your wrong. The fact that the six teams above Everton have used up all of the allocated European slots with one to spare is hardly to the embarrassment of Everton. What would be embarrassing is if we entered Europe via the fair play route and finished in the lower half of the table. What you seem to be struggling to grasp is we will be finishing 7th on merit above all off those other teams who would gladly swap position with us and not feel embarrassed at all.

{Ed002's Note - Embarrassing is a club qualifying for Europe through the efforts of others, and not through the effort of Everton - coming 7th in a league where only the top five qualify through their efforts in the league (for example). It means that through ability Everton are not good enough to qualify but through the luck of Southampton not winning the League Cup they now have every chance. Again, I am surprised by the Everton fans not being able to see this very simple thing.}