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22 Feb 2017 20:21:07
Hi Ed I see its being banded about in the rags again about the strong possibility of Wayne Rooney returning to Everton in the summer, what is your take on this mate, if he is going to come and R K seems to favour this, then this would be the last time being 30 that he could contribute to the team cheers GuernseyBlue.

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{Ed025's Note - hes not coming GB, to be honest im glad as i think he is well past his sell by date mate..


1.) 22 Feb 2017 20:42:24
Agree with you there mate, GuernseyBlue.


2.) 23 Feb 2017 12:06:15
If Rooney goes to China will Everton get a percentage of the transfare fee? If so does anybody no way the percentage would be?

{Ed002's Note - I would have expected any clauses related to the sell on would have long expired but the original deal was that Everton would get 25% of the fee over and aboe the total amount Manchester United have paid Everton (transfer fee and bonuses). As such, if we assume that total to be around £30M or so and he was sold for £40M, if the clause is still acive Everton would benefit by £2.5M less costs. If however he were sold for £30M, nothing would be due even if the clause is still active.}


3.) 23 Feb 2017 12:33:11
Most supporters have an opinion one way or another about Rooney coming back to Everton. However if he does come back it has to be based on a hard business decision and not on sentiment one way or the other. His return, if he comes, has to benefit Everton financially. The benefits have to out way the cost and not the other way around. I'm glad I don't have to make the decision but my gut feeling is it just will not happen.


4.) 23 Feb 2017 15:02:59
Let him go to China, make loads of money then invest it in the club. Maybe buy a stand at the new stadium, or sponsor the academy? Obviously none of this will actually happen. He's a footballer after all.


5.) 23 Feb 2017 21:24:18
Personally turning down China for me only makes the possibility of a move to Everton in the Summer more likely, I would not dismiss this just yet.


6.) 24 Feb 2017 09:03:22
The lad is still an avid Evertonian but at 31 is this really what/ who RK is looking at to drive us forward, personally I wouldn't have thought so. As for clauses, I was given to understand that Ed002 in particular thought that clauses were either an irrelevance or did not exist.

{Ed002's Note - No, I have never said that.}


7.) 24 Feb 2017 14:09:32
My apologies Ed002 got that one wrong.

{Ed002's Note - Perhaps a reminder about transfer related clauses would be apt. This is a horribly complex area not least because they are written under individual national laws. They cause a great deal of misunderstanding with football supporters and the media alike.

The "buy out" clause is legally binding between a club and a player. The "buy out" is effectively what it says - a means for the player to buy himself out of the contract. As an example, if a player wishes to buy himself out of a contract, he pays the applicable FA (on behalf of the club) the amount of the "buy out" clause effectively becoming a free agent. The problem is that in most cases a player would need to obtain that money from the buying club - and this is fraught with issues regarding "tapping up" and, of course, taxation (as it can be seen as income for the player and would therefore be subject to income tax). There was a test case about the taxation issue in Spain about four years ago. So "buy out" clauses are very rare.

A "release clause" is far more common in that it gives a figure that the club would accept for the sale of a player to another club - but it is not legally binding except where both parties are in the same country (for the sake of argument I should say that Spain and Portugal count as the same country as do England and Wales) for legal purposes. These are normally unreasonably high figures (Messi at Barcelona for example) introduced to act as a deterrent for hostile bids - and even then the club could easily block a move. However, if a club does agree to match a release clause then the selling club would be obliged to ask the player if he is interested - there is no obligation on the player to make a move. For interested clubs outside of the country the selling club may use it as a guide but are under obligation to accept a bid.

There is then the becoming popular "termination clause" which is binding between the player and the club and if met would see an offer from anywhere accepted and the player given the opportunity to make a call on a move. This overcomes the issues associated with "buy out" clauses as the money would be paid by one club to another.}


 

 

31 Jan 2017 19:14:43
Kone to Palace 6 mths loan, GuernseyBlue

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1.) 31 Jan 2017 19:35:13
Hope so. Might have a cheeky bethe on jay Rodriguez not in the southampton squad tonigh


2.) 31 Jan 2017 19:52:06
I hope so I really rate J R


 

 

30 Jan 2017 13:52:48
Hi Ed reported odds slashed to 1/ 3 on Seamus joining Man U, any info cheers, GuernseyBlue

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{Ed025's Note - just skybet trying to fleece punters probably GB, nothing this end on that mate..


1.) 31 Jan 2017 10:08:39
What price is Coleman not to leave?
Now that would be easy money!


 

 

30 Jan 2017 15:30:15
Hi Ed Sky saying Everton have just had a bid turned down for Sheffield Utd under 19 goalkeeper, also odds slashed on Seamus to 1/ 3 to join Man U, any info cheers, GuernseyBlue

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{Ed002's Note - I know nothing ofd the goalkeeper and I don't understand your point about betting odds.}


1.) 30 Jan 2017 15:49:35
Hi Ed was just saying about the odds on Seamus, surely something has prompted the bookies to slash them, either they know something or a lot of money has been put on thanks, GuernseyBlue

{Ed002's Note - Odds get adjusted as money is wagered - I would not use bookmakers odds as a guide to transfers GB.}


2.) 30 Jan 2017 16:03:18
Ok Ed thanks for clarifying that point, GuernseyBlue


3.) 30 Jan 2017 17:43:27
Take no notice to bookies betting odds on players . If I remember correctly We wer 1/ 100 to sign riquelme


4.) 30 Jan 2017 19:56:06
Just checked and we still are! It's back on.

{Ed025's Note - love it TH..


 

 

28 Jan 2017 20:07:57
Hi Ed any credibility in the story Newcastle have offered £16 mill for Jimmy Mac cheers mate, GuernseyBlue

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{Ed002's Note - There has been an offer GB but I don't know the amount.}


1.) 28 Jan 2017 20:41:47
If they have made a decent bid I'm gutted to say it but surely we should take it I'd say currently he's at best 5th choice for a starting role and if basic is close to fitness he may find himself 6th choice for the rest of the season surely a decent bid for our 6th choice centre mid needs to be accepted even though I'd be gutted to see him leave


2.) 28 Jan 2017 21:00:40
Hi James it seems like a good offer, but who knows mate Bill handles all of this, we have refused the offer so it could go either way mate, holding out for a better bid I think, GuernseyBlue


3.) 28 Jan 2017 21:07:45
It will be and indeed as I type it has been rejected. McArthy believe it or not is an integral part of this Squad. To play the Koeman way you need players with not only the abilities but engines. McArthy at times may look like a headless chicken but under Koemans system he will flourish.


4.) 28 Jan 2017 21:21:15
I'm a fan of McCarthy and I agree with bigduncsmum . Koeman likes hard work and Jimmy mc has plenty of that and will be vital in more away games when we sit on the counter press high n counter attack.

But I also can see this is MS so maybe if we get somewhere near the 20 mark he could go.

However it is a department we are strongest in. I would like to see him stay. If he wants to move to play good luck to the lad I haven't got a bad word to say about him.


5.) 28 Jan 2017 21:39:22
During his first year. when Martinez came along. he and rest of team flourished. he may have had two disappointing season since then but so has the team generally. Personally I thought against Liverpool he was our best player. indeed I thought we dominated until he was replaced at half time. I guess all I'm saying is don't be quick to judge. However, the issue facing the manager is with, Schneiderlin, Ghana, Barkley, Davies, mirrallas, besic. not to mention midfielders we have out on loan, how much playing team will James mc get in the near term? Personally, I think that selling James mc now would be silly business. talk about strength and depth I think the summer is the time to assess his role in the team.


6.) 28 Jan 2017 22:26:39
The games he has played we looked a better side. If he is to go then in today's money he must be worth 20mill at least. For once we don't need to sell but if we are going to at least get the maximum for him.


7.) 28 Jan 2017 22:34:29
If the right offer comes in and we bring in another striker then I will be happy. But he has been fantastic and I hope we see the best McCarthy again soon! (Hopefully not against us) .


8.) 28 Jan 2017 22:41:51
Don't get me wrong I wasn't criticising Mccarthy it's just in the short term I think he's behind gana Davies schniederlin and Barry and if/ when fit besic we can only have a 25 man squad I struggle to see where he fits in I fully accept that Barry hasn't long left and besic and Gibson keep the physios at the club employed but even taking those 2 out he's at best 4 choice and with the emergence of some of the u23 squad can we have a player that wants to play and commands a good fee just to make the numbers up or will freeing a squad space up with a fee that will help with ffp rules be more beneficial?


9.) 29 Jan 2017 12:32:30
I agree Jcl. Keep Mc Carthy we need 4 top class centre midfielders. Davies, Schneiderlin, gueye and Mc carthy.


10.) 29 Jan 2017 12:40:50
Senagal are out of the African cup so Gauye will be back next week.
With the emergence of Davies and with Besic being nearly fit we can let McCarthy go as we have plenty of cover in central midfield


11.) 29 Jan 2017 13:30:46
I would sell mcarthy now while we can . £20 million for a player that spends more time on the treatment table than on the pitch is not bad


 

 

 

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24 Feb 2017 20:02:28
Hi Ed this Rooney talk will go and go into the summer now, it appears we put a bid in for him in Jan. looks like there is a debate going on among fans and it seems to be 50/ 50 as to wether he would improve the current team or not, personally I like Wayne as a player and he is a massive fan of Everton, but to have him back I just don't know cheers, GuernseyBlue.

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1.) 25 Feb 2017 06:29:09
Personally I would have him back, one for the vast amount of experience he would bring and two for the commercial aspect I also think he would push Barkley a bit more all that being said it has to be for the right money, he can't expect even a fraction of what he's on now so it comes down to if its about the football or the money for him. (oh and wether RM actually want him)


2.) 25 Feb 2017 07:39:27
A fraction of ehat he is on now is exactly what he can expect.


3.) 25 Feb 2017 09:39:17
I am unsure too Guernsey Blue but something in my head says Barkley, rooney and Lukaku as our front 3 could be deadly.


4.) 25 Feb 2017 09:42:11
Hi ToffeeAL, by RM I am hoping you mean RK. Thankfully RM has gone.
Nice typo :)


5.) 25 Feb 2017 10:52:59
LOL I did mean RK in my defense I had only been out of bed a few minutes and it was 5am hehe.


 

 

11 Feb 2017 14:39:12
Hi Ed that is a good team R K has put out today, one of the strongest I would say cheers, GuernseyBlue.

GuernseyBlue

{Ed025's Note - looks good GB, we just have to produce the goods now mate..


1.) 11 Feb 2017 18:59:43
Still unbeaten and defended better today, well organized boro made it difficult. 1 point closer to the dark side hopefully remains same at 20.00.


 

 

08 Feb 2017 15:20:46
Hi Ed excellent article in the Royal Blue Mersey to how the media is selling Rom for Everton, how true that is, if as stated we don't get into Europe then the £80 mill price would give a huge amount to boost the team, I for one hope he stays as it also states that he has already said he wants to be part of the R K revolution, also another article in there about Joe Anderson saying how the proposed new stadium at the docks would be a huge benefit to the Commenwealth Games and that Everton are finalising the details to buy cheers, GuernseyBlue.

GuernseyBlue

1.) 08 Feb 2017 16:51:37
Why would we want a run down Boston pub?


2.) 08 Feb 2017 17:18:25
Ahaha good one sa.


 

 

07 Feb 2017 11:36:36
Hi Ed there is an excellent piece in the Echo about how Steve Wash and R K go about finding all these gems, the way they are off the ball seems more important than how they play, am really impressed with those two, GuernseyBlue.

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{Ed001's Note - Walsh is a fantastic scout, one of the best around and was the best signing of the summer. Even better than Kante, imo, as he will have a much longer term impact.}


1.) 07 Feb 2017 12:15:33
Too right Ed R K and S W the best two signings for our club in a long time cheers, GuernseyBlue.


2.) 07 Feb 2017 12:30:39
That's why I always rated McCarthy. His movement off the ball is constant. Some people say he runs around like a headless chicken. I say he is contributing hugely to the shape and defense of the team.


3.) 07 Feb 2017 13:09:39
I have always admired McCarthy forhis defensive awareness. I just thought we were overloaded with defensive midfielders. Barry, Besic, McCarthy all good defensively but none really forward thinking players. Gana offers more forwards and Davies is the answer to all my prayers. I was turning atheist until the "chosen one" arrived!


4.) 07 Feb 2017 13:41:34
Even Schneiderlan would also be better going forward. Barry's time is limited. Can we really count him? He is squad player now.

Don't get me wrong he is a very valuable one at that. If on the off chance we get into Europe Barry would be a big help next season. Long term can't see him going past next season.

He might do a job at left back if we get stuck with Oviedo gone. Garbutt I know but Barry is also an option. Even though he is slowing up and would not be a first choice there its still an option.


5.) 07 Feb 2017 17:17:47
McCarthy was a headless chicken but like many other players he has been brought into line. He isn't, like Barkley, the same player as last year. I'm happy about that as he is the right type of character.

Look at it this way. Not only have we made some excellent signings but the players LEFT are also like new players. Koeman and Walsh have been an utter revelation since joining.

I just hope Barcelona stay clear of him. As Enrique is likely to leave in the summer.

{Ed025's Note - arsenal could be looking for a new manager as well john, keep your bleedin mitts off i say mate..


6.) 07 Feb 2017 19:56:54
Totally BlueJohnUns, it shows the potential was there. Also shows the difference a manager can make to a team.


 

 

05 Feb 2017 19:34:54
Hi Ed seeing the predicament Leicester are in a bid for their goalkeeper in the summer would be a good move for us, i think Joel and Kasper would relish it for top spot, GuernseyBlue.

GuernseyBlue

{Ed025's Note - we were linked to him last year GB but of course CL football and winning the league put paid to that, its a different scenario now though so it would not surprise me if we did renew our interest mate..


1.) 05 Feb 2017 19:51:23
Hi Ed see what you are saying mate, but I think R k will be taking a long hard look at the goalkeeper and Ashley Williams positions cheers mate, GuernseyBlue.


2.) 05 Feb 2017 23:57:14
Think Robles at 27 is growing every game. Incredible clean sheet stats even under Brown shoes. Not sure if we should not just let him grow.


3.) 06 Feb 2017 11:47:55
He's a keeper for me. See what I did there keeper, keep. 😀.


 

 

 

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22 Feb 2017 20:42:24
Agree with you there mate, GuernseyBlue.

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03 Feb 2017 19:40:29
Hi Degsy too right there mate, its been a long time time coming but thank goodness Everton got their man cheers, GuernseyBlue.

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30 Jan 2017 21:06:44
Well I am sure there will be business done, GuernseyBlue

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30 Jan 2017 16:03:18
Ok Ed thanks for clarifying that point, GuernseyBlue

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30 Jan 2017 15:49:35
Hi Ed was just saying about the odds on Seamus, surely something has prompted the bookies to slash them, either they know something or a lot of money has been put on thanks, GuernseyBlue

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{Ed002's Note - Odds get adjusted as money is wagered - I would not use bookmakers odds as a guide to transfers GB.}


 

 

 

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19 Feb 2017 20:33:32
Agree with that Kingo, but he was iffy for a few games I think R K wants perfection mate and maybe he sees something we don't. in R K I trust, GuernseyBlue.

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12 Feb 2017 11:28:48
Fair result mate but I reckon Funes Mori was a bit iffy at times, the lads worked hard for that result tough team away from home, GuernseyBlue.

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07 Feb 2017 12:15:33
Too right Ed R K and S W the best two signings for our club in a long time cheers, GuernseyBlue.

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07 Feb 2017 11:32:38
Agree with you NBTB I too think Rom will stay, he knows what's going on at Everton now behind the scenes and I reckon he will want to be part of it, GuernseyBlue.

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06 Feb 2017 10:21:45
Hi Svenny good post mate agree all the way, but would also get a goalkeeper in like Kasper at Leicester to keep Joel on his toes cheers, GuernseyBlue
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