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20 Mar 2017 20:17:31
Hi Ed is that correct do you know we are haggling with Watford over a £8 mill valuation on Tom Cleverly, that would represent good business surely, GuernseyBlue.

GuernseyBlue

{Ed002's Note - I don't know of any haggling GB, the situation is that there is a contract between the sides that facilitates a permanent transfer of TC after a certain number of games at a set price (I don't know what that price is nor how it might be structured - single payment of £xM plus £xM for reaching 50 games and £xM when he gets his first cap for Norway or whatever. The proviso will relate to the player still needing to agree the move.}


 

 

14 Mar 2017 20:44:23
Hi Ed N S N O saying the Rom deal is still very much on, maybe this is all media hype and time will tell, R K will know what is going on I am sure, he will will have a plan A B or C, at the end of the day Everton Football Club is in a very healthy position and they will do what is best for the club, in RK we tust GuernseyBlue.

GuernseyBlue

{Ed025's Note - it seems the problem is with the release clause GB..


 

 

01 Mar 2017 18:26:10
Hi all if Wayne does come to Everton, where in the team would be best to fit him in, maybe just in behind Rom but what happens to Ross he has upped his game lately and it seems to be working, GuernseyBlue.

GuernseyBlue

1.) 01 Mar 2017 19:15:52
Coming off the bench!

{Ed025's Note - im with you AJ..


2.) 01 Mar 2017 20:03:33
I don't know about coming off the bench especially when you see Imbrahimovic at United and also at 35,there is plenty of mileage in Waynes legs and still only 31i reckon R K would play him 90mins in most games only my opinion, GuernseyBlue.


3.) 01 Mar 2017 20:12:57
I think if we qualify for Europe his quality and experience could help us. I do have to admit though I am torn between wanting him or not.


4.) 01 Mar 2017 20:26:08
I'm like that Smit mate but I think he would really help us and I would be chuffed if he did come cheers, GuernseyBlue.


5.) 01 Mar 2017 20:56:32
The lad scored 15 goals last season at nearly 1 in every 2 games and that was in a poor man utd team. I know we are on the up but we must be interested in a player with those stats.
I think it is too early to write him off.


6.) 01 Mar 2017 22:59:23
Aldo I agree with Original AJ and Ed025's comments above, I am coming with it from a positive point of few. I would love to see him come back. Not solely just to see him back. I believe he could do a job for us.

Not a starter every game but a valuable player none the less. No doubt about it, he is not the player he used to be. But many players get a lift when they change clubs. Even late on in their career. Look at Barry he has been tremendous for us. The change helped him.

Imagine the lift Rooney would get coming back to his boyhood team. He'd be reborn. His experience and contribution to the club would be invaluable and we would be stupid to turn him down imho.

Not much to lose, if anything, and plenty to gain if you ask me. Rooney is still only 31 but started at 16. I know Barry was a similar age starting and is still going at 35 but Rooney had a lot more games than Barry to contend with. Both at club and country. Also the way Rooney played had to of took a lot out of him. This I also believe.

Still a return to Goodison and he'll get butterflies in his stomach again. We would be the ones to benefit imho. Koeman seems interested. That suits me. He definitely knows what he wants. Even Walsh came out and said he would come if it can be made happen.


7.) 02 Mar 2017 08:14:07
Hi NBTB good post, to me having Wayne seems a no brainier he is still a very good footballer with a good engine, he wants to play every game and he would get a good chance with us cheers mate, GuernseyBlue.


8.) 03 Mar 2017 11:56:07
It is an extremely hard ask given the form of the Teams above us. I include Liverpool in this because Klopp is to good a manager/ coach to allow this mini-slump to go on. 7th considering the huge changes required and being carried out is in my opinion an excellent start. As RK says one more summer Window should see us ready to challenge the top 4 seriously.


9.) 04 Mar 2017 07:59:30
The goals Rooney scored last season came in a poor Utd team and he was playing a deeper role. Pinging passes all over the place. He has at least 3 more seasons in him at the top in my opinion. He sorted his attitude out some years ago and since then has easily been the best English player around. Yes there are some good youngsters coming through now, but Rooney is still one of the best. We should be trying to get the best. Emotional stuff like he is still an Evertonian should not come into it. We should be going for the best players and in my opinion, he still is a top player.


 

 

22 Feb 2017 20:21:07
Hi Ed I see its being banded about in the rags again about the strong possibility of Wayne Rooney returning to Everton in the summer, what is your take on this mate, if he is going to come and R K seems to favour this, then this would be the last time being 30 that he could contribute to the team cheers GuernseyBlue.

GuernseyBlue

{Ed025's Note - hes not coming GB, to be honest im glad as i think he is well past his sell by date mate..


1.) 22 Feb 2017 20:42:24
Agree with you there mate, GuernseyBlue.


2.) 23 Feb 2017 12:06:15
If Rooney goes to China will Everton get a percentage of the transfare fee? If so does anybody no way the percentage would be?

{Ed002's Note - I would have expected any clauses related to the sell on would have long expired but the original deal was that Everton would get 25% of the fee over and aboe the total amount Manchester United have paid Everton (transfer fee and bonuses). As such, if we assume that total to be around £30M or so and he was sold for £40M, if the clause is still acive Everton would benefit by £2.5M less costs. If however he were sold for £30M, nothing would be due even if the clause is still active.}


3.) 23 Feb 2017 12:33:11
Most supporters have an opinion one way or another about Rooney coming back to Everton. However if he does come back it has to be based on a hard business decision and not on sentiment one way or the other. His return, if he comes, has to benefit Everton financially. The benefits have to out way the cost and not the other way around. I'm glad I don't have to make the decision but my gut feeling is it just will not happen.


4.) 23 Feb 2017 15:02:59
Let him go to China, make loads of money then invest it in the club. Maybe buy a stand at the new stadium, or sponsor the academy? Obviously none of this will actually happen. He's a footballer after all.


5.) 23 Feb 2017 21:24:18
Personally turning down China for me only makes the possibility of a move to Everton in the Summer more likely, I would not dismiss this just yet.


6.) 24 Feb 2017 09:03:22
The lad is still an avid Evertonian but at 31 is this really what/ who RK is looking at to drive us forward, personally I wouldn't have thought so. As for clauses, I was given to understand that Ed002 in particular thought that clauses were either an irrelevance or did not exist.

{Ed002's Note - No, I have never said that.}


7.) 24 Feb 2017 14:09:32
My apologies Ed002 got that one wrong.

{Ed002's Note - Perhaps a reminder about transfer related clauses would be apt. This is a horribly complex area not least because they are written under individual national laws. They cause a great deal of misunderstanding with football supporters and the media alike.

The "buy out" clause is legally binding between a club and a player. The "buy out" is effectively what it says - a means for the player to buy himself out of the contract. As an example, if a player wishes to buy himself out of a contract, he pays the applicable FA (on behalf of the club) the amount of the "buy out" clause effectively becoming a free agent. The problem is that in most cases a player would need to obtain that money from the buying club - and this is fraught with issues regarding "tapping up" and, of course, taxation (as it can be seen as income for the player and would therefore be subject to income tax). There was a test case about the taxation issue in Spain about four years ago. So "buy out" clauses are very rare.

A "release clause" is far more common in that it gives a figure that the club would accept for the sale of a player to another club - but it is not legally binding except where both parties are in the same country (for the sake of argument I should say that Spain and Portugal count as the same country as do England and Wales) for legal purposes. These are normally unreasonably high figures (Messi at Barcelona for example) introduced to act as a deterrent for hostile bids - and even then the club could easily block a move. However, if a club does agree to match a release clause then the selling club would be obliged to ask the player if he is interested - there is no obligation on the player to make a move. For interested clubs outside of the country the selling club may use it as a guide but are under obligation to accept a bid.

There is then the becoming popular "termination clause" which is binding between the player and the club and if met would see an offer from anywhere accepted and the player given the opportunity to make a call on a move. This overcomes the issues associated with "buy out" clauses as the money would be paid by one club to another.}


8.) 26 Feb 2017 14:17:37
Thank you, well put and somewhat enlightening.


 

 

31 Jan 2017 19:14:43
Kone to Palace 6 mths loan, GuernseyBlue

GuernseyBlue

1.) 31 Jan 2017 19:35:13
Hope so. Might have a cheeky bethe on jay Rodriguez not in the southampton squad tonigh


2.) 31 Jan 2017 19:52:06
I hope so I really rate J R


 

 

 

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23 Mar 2017 12:26:51
Hi Ed latest news on the new stadium site saying we have purchased land from Peel Holdings, have you heard anything yet mate the wheels seem to be in motion, bring it on we have waited for this moment for so long, onwards and upwards we go, GuernseyBlue.

GuernseyBlue

{Ed002's Note - As I explained the other day, it will need a planning application, consultation, planning permission etc. before work can even begin - I suspect it is still some way off - 2020/21 perhaps?}


1.) 23 Mar 2017 13:20:42
Do you mean to be built or to start building ed.

{Ed002's Note - Once the application is made I would expect it to be three years before it is ready to use - if the application goes in soon then that should hit 20/21.}


2.) 23 Mar 2017 13:39:35
Quite right ed but we don't know what work has been done behind the scenes. Plans and planning permission etc maybe done and dusted based on us buying this land. May all have been done on the quiet. (we hope)

{Ed002's Note - No that is not how it works. Planning permission is based on a public processes where the plans need to be reviewed, there needs to be consultation with all concerned parties, objections need to be addressed etc. before permission is granted. None of that has happened.}


3.) 23 Mar 2017 14:49:28
So we are looking 3/ 4 years? D.

{Ed002's Note - See above.}


4.) 23 Mar 2017 14:51:01
Sorry clicked too early. Do other countries have to go through all this beauracracy?

{Ed002's Note - Of course.}


5.) 23 Mar 2017 15:01:41
We can but wait. Looking forward to seeing plans and designs. Could be the massive boost the club and that area of the city needs.


 

 

19 Mar 2017 20:20:54
Hi Ed aaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh international break this weekend, just when we had the chance to make it three wins in a row, ah well have to wait till the week after to make it three cheers mate, GuernseyBlue.

GuernseyBlue

{Ed002's Note - The International break would be next weekend. This weekend is here and now, and a happening time with kids dancing the Watusi and having a good time.}


1.) 19 Mar 2017 21:11:37
Hi Ed cheers like it, GuernseyBlue.

{Ed002's Note - I like it as well GB but by my age it becomes more difficult.}


 

 

18 Mar 2017 21:45:07
Hi Ed would settle for the score today it flatters us a bit, but under R M we would have drawn that game or even worse, I will take a win any time 3 points and a clean sheet bring on that lot from across the park, just hope Morgan is ok, GuernseyBlue.

GuernseyBlue

{Ed025's Note - im very happy with that GB, i just hope we dont bottle it next week mate..


1.) 18 Mar 2017 23:56:56
I still think we have a sneaky chance of 4th in the last couple of games, possibly by a point or even goal difference!
We didn't play well today and got a 4 nil result, I suspect Koeman will be making sure we up our game for the derby!

And yes I know it's not likely but I still have faith and hope!


2.) 19 Mar 2017 11:57:08
Don't think we are playing next week.


 

 

18 Mar 2017 17:04:19
Hi Ed great game today, I would just like to say looking at Roms body language especially after the goals he is not going anywhere, the fans were applauding him from the start and he was loving it, great team performance throughout, GuernseyBlue.

GuernseyBlue

{Ed025's Note - i hope your right GB, 4-0 flattered us a bit but if you give rom chances he will put them away, i can hear some squeaky bums in the teams above us now and if we get a result at the theatre of bluff next week then you never know mate..


1.) 18 Mar 2017 18:12:07
Your right there Ed025 we weren't great today but took the chances we had. I felt we were far too deep and looked like we were setting up for counter attack against a poor side instead of getting into them and bossing the game.
Rom took his goals well but his reading of the line is awful and he is caught offside an awful lot for a world class striker, again his hold up play wasn't the best and he was bullied by Maguire and the same for his winning of headers, is he ready for a top European side? My personal opinion is no and deep down surely he knows this himself and the best place to improve is the stage and home that has improved him year on year and that is right here at Everton.
Back to back home wins, 7 goals scored and 2 clean sheets, and this is without really playing that well.
The true test comes now with 2 away games against the other lot and United, these are the games an ambitious player needs to show up for and show that you really are as good as your ego.

{Ed025's Note - to be fair gray for all his faults he is the leading goalscorer in the toughest league on the planet and that speaks volumes, he is not the finished article yet i agree but if he does iron out his faults then we have no chance of holding on to him mate..


2.) 18 Mar 2017 18:36:55
I thought that he looked the weaker out of the players attacking. I thought he was immensely selfish when he could have fed calvert lewin through. 2 good goals and an assist haha. Even when he is poor he is amazing. He has improved massively though on these other aspects. Liked the fans support of Rom and liked his celebration.


3.) 18 Mar 2017 18:45:45
No doubting his ability in front of goal, to be considered in the same breath as let's say Suarez who has played in our league he has a lot of improving to do and I hope it is with us as if he leaves to soon he could find his game time limited and slow his progression down.

{Ed025's Note - fair point gray..


 

 

15 Mar 2017 18:58:06
Hi Ed why is it when Everton do things correctly ie do their contract work, stadium move and everthing else behind closed doors we get rubbish posts turning up on here like same old Everton, if we all believed what the rags print heaven help us, i for one would like to congratulate Everton Football Club for this stance and long may it continue, we are moving into an exciting new era with our club with Mr Moshiri, instead of all this negative drivvle for goodness sake get behind the club and ENJOY the ride, it will be bumpy along the way but so what we have waited for this for a very very long time for this, GuernseyBlue.

GuernseyBlue

{Ed025's Note - i cant understand any real evertonian not being excited about the future GB, i havent been this excited since my wedding night mate.. :)


1.) 15 Mar 2017 19:04:15
Blimey Ed I can't remember that far back he he, nice on mate cheers GuernseyBlue.


2.) 15 Mar 2017 20:14:21
Must have been a blinding honeymoon Ed.

(I do like your OFAH one liners)

{Ed025's Note - i drank a lot that night RIB..i just remember waking up the next morning and a part of my anatomy was like a stick of rhubarb so im guessing it was good mate.. :)


3.) 15 Mar 2017 21:50:21
Exactly. This is a club that generally behaves with a fair amount of class and dignity. I believe we have a reputation amongst genuine football supporters for doing things the right way. We should always hold on to those principles whatever missiles get thrown at us. Which ever players leave or join our principles should remain!

{Ed025's Note - i agree masham mate..


4.) 16 Mar 2017 03:45:42
Good post GuernseyBlue!


 

 

 

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02 Mar 2017 08:14:07
Hi NBTB good post, to me having Wayne seems a no brainier he is still a very good footballer with a good engine, he wants to play every game and he would get a good chance with us cheers mate, GuernseyBlue.

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01 Mar 2017 20:26:08
I'm like that Smit mate but I think he would really help us and I would be chuffed if he did come cheers, GuernseyBlue.

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01 Mar 2017 20:03:33
I don't know about coming off the bench especially when you see Imbrahimovic at United and also at 35,there is plenty of mileage in Waynes legs and still only 31i reckon R K would play him 90mins in most games only my opinion, GuernseyBlue.

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22 Feb 2017 20:42:24
Agree with you there mate, GuernseyBlue.

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03 Feb 2017 19:40:29
Hi Degsy too right there mate, its been a long time time coming but thank goodness Everton got their man cheers, GuernseyBlue.

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19 Mar 2017 21:11:37
Hi Ed cheers like it, GuernseyBlue.

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{Ed002's Note - I like it as well GB but by my age it becomes more difficult.}


 

 

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15 Mar 2017 19:04:15
Blimey Ed I can't remember that far back he he, nice on mate cheers GuernseyBlue.

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12 Mar 2017 20:26:33
Hi NBTB good post mate, a few good signings in the summer and we will be in good shape, GuernseyBlue.

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11 Mar 2017 21:02:16
Hi NBTB my sentiments exactly mate, we are a great club and have been in the doldrums for far too long, i think the team on the whole played really well today and one of the team I would single out for special praise was Jags not once did any of the West Brom team get in behind him, a real solid perforformance also Ross was very good, we are now playing well under R K and yes there will be blips along the way but the signs are good, at last all of us Evertonians have something wonderful happening at Goodison welcome to the ride cheers mate GuernseyBlue.

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11 Mar 2017 18:05:51
Hi NBTB have to say West Brom were woeful today can't understand how they were so close, they only turned up today to get a point, cheers mate GuernseyBlue.

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