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14 Jan 2020 01:40:38
Do we have an option to recall jonjoe kenney in this window?
1.) 14 Jan 2020 09:03:09
don't think so, don't need to recall him either we have two right backs, let him have a full season out there and we'll reevaluate in the summer.
2.) 14 Jan 2020 22:28:52
Kenny is a good player and needs to play as many matches as possible at this stage in his career. I think he is one to keep myself. Coleman isn't the same anymore and it hurts to say that. Sibide seems to offer something Coleman doesn't as a full back but I think both of them miss something. I would keep Coleman and bring Kenny back at this point but there is still a very good chunk of the season left. Sibide has certainly offered us something though and is a good short term acquisition. What does other people think about Sibide?
{Ed025's Note - i think hes doing a job BT, not the greatest i have ever seen but an upgrade on coleman i believe mate..
27 Dec 2019 22:21:55
ed 25. I know it's the time of year for odd stories, but heard that we have offered Tosun plus a lot of cash for Mitrovic.
Would seem to make a good story, but do you know if it has any mileage?
{Ed025's Note - im a fan of mitrovic JCW but this is the first i have heard of that mate, he certainly knows where the net is though and would certainly be an upgrade on cenk..
1.) 28 Dec 2019 16:58:32
Ed025:I would be an upgrade on Cenk haha.
{Ed025's Note - i dont doubt that for 1 minute tit.. :)
24 Nov 2019 00:18:15
Been some time since i posted on this sight, as some kind person took the p.s. in respect of my spelling, even, though i had explained my dyslexia, that said, i have the right to an opinion, regardless of my poor spelling.
Moyes is a good manager, but the manner of his parting was so disrespectful (without rehashing all the details) that surely to reinstate him should be out of the question and, i know we are in a difficult situation, and Silver has to go, but this has been coming for some time, surely the board must have anticipated this situation and have a contingency plan in place.
1.) 24 Nov 2019 01:14:02
Yours is like the Queens English, compared to some of my posts Jcw, you carry on posting mate.
If Moyes was coming, then I am sure it would have been done tonight so for me that rules Moyes out.
Without repeating myself, the only conclusion I can come up with is we are waiting for the Chinese league to finish next week, then make a move for Benitez.
I know I will get a will not happen but that is my valid opinion.
2.) 24 Nov 2019 08:16:24
Welcome back JCW don't worry about the spelling mate.
I can't see him lasting the week, surely Moshiri and Brands have already got a shortlist of names.
Bignev if Benitez was coming next week they would surely still sack Silva this week. If Silva flukes a win against Leicester they wouldn't be able to sack him so now is the ideal circumstances to get rid.
3.) 24 Nov 2019 11:02:34
My xmas wish, Silva gone and rafa in.
4.) 24 Nov 2019 12:00:48
Their is only one objective left this season and that is to avoid relegation. We have to do that with the players we have at present plus maybe one or two additions in January. Not sure changing Silva for a Moyes or Hughes type is going to improve our chances of staying up or not. Silva has to go but the big question is "When". Results over the next few weeks and the availability of replacements will dictate that decision. Unfortunately over the past couple of years the decision making by Moshiri and the board has been pretty abysmal so I can't see much hope that this will change. As well as Silva going a complete restructuring of the club from top to bottom is required with some experienced football people recruited to guide Moshiri and the board in their decision making. The next managerial appointment will give us some indication of at least the desire to make the necessary changes. Bring in Moyes and we will know that the "old firm" is still in charge.
5.) 25 Nov 2019 11:19:25
Smit, that is why I was saying bringing a Unsworth in short term, might be the reason for this, if a Unsworth is made caretaker.
17 Jan 2017 03:08:16
If Jags is going to sunderland, then could we please have Pickford rather than Kone, good last season, but this season been found out a bit, Gibson seems a much better c/ back, if m/ bought want gerry a deal might be possible!
1.) 17 Jan 2017 07:07:41
Looks like Sunderland it's a swap deal with Kone and McCarthy plus 10 mil going our way anything on that one Eds. I hope not
{Ed025's Note - not yet AB..
2.) 17 Jan 2017 07:55:06
Everton please don't sell McCarthey, he one of our best players, too good for Sunderland.
3.) 17 Jan 2017 08:28:53
Swap deals are very rare and must suit all parties i'm not sure its as easy as you think.
09 Oct 2016 01:25:42
Coleman to united for 16m, so that's the deposit taken care of, so when they come up with the other 16m, we can have a nice chat about the add ons.
1.) 09 Oct 2016 08:43:27
Wrote a similar post last week ref to mcarthy's valuation. Where do they pluck these valuations from and when was the last time we sold a first team regular on the cheap. ( luke shaw 30mil full back bench mark)
{Ed002's Note - Whatever Coleman is worth is nothing whatsoever to do with the cost of Shaw.}
2.) 09 Oct 2016 09:57:20
To be fair ed he never said it has anything to do with the cost of Shaw he said it should be a benchmark and I agree with him as coleman is better than Shaw so £30 million should be the smallest fee that they offer.
{Ed002's Note - There is no "benchmark", it is absolutely of no relevance whatsoever. If Manchester United purchased Shaw for £5M would you be much happy taking a similar amount for Coleman?}
3.) 09 Oct 2016 11:38:12
The price would be set by what he is worth to Everton and then whether Utd would be prepared to meet that price and then whether the player was open to a move. Having read his recent words in the Daily Mail, I don't think he would choose to move. IMHO £16m is ridiculously low for a player of his talent and experience who has just become captain of his country.
4.) 09 Oct 2016 12:09:23
Just don't see us selling Coleman in January or the summer think utd will get same response as the last time they tried to sign him as for ROM don't think he will leave in January for utd but the summer might be totally different and there link with Barkley I find a little bizzare considering his form of late.
5.) 09 Oct 2016 17:20:10
United paid 30 for Shaw and coleman is a much better player than Shaw so why would we sell him to United for almost half of what United paid for Shaw that's just a joke.
Ed if you had a one bed flat what u paid 50 grand for and a mansion u paid 50 mill for would you expect to sell your flat for Moor than you bought your mansion for all were saying is if Shaw is worth 30 then coleman must be 40-45.
6.) 09 Oct 2016 17:20:10
United paid 30 for Shaw and coleman is a much better player than Shaw so why would we sell him to United for almost half of what United paid for Shaw that's just a joke.
Ed if you had a one bed flat what u paid 50 grand for and a mansion u paid 50 mill for would you expect to sell your flat for Moor than you bought your mansion for all were saying is if Shaw is worth 30 then coleman must be 40-45.
{Ed002's Note - You are living in a very naive world if you are going to try and compare the cost of players like that - it really is of no significance at all.}
7.) 09 Oct 2016 18:10:00
Ed002 is right imho. Apart from the obvious of him being in the know. There are so many factors and things to consider when a player is moving.
You can't compare prices. It's like saying we drew with Spurs and Spurs beat City so we are going to beat City.
Saying all that I can't see Everton letting him go. If they do let him go I'd expect it be reluctantly and therefore for a far better price than being quoted. When there was a lot of talk about Coleman moving in the media before, prices being quoted were in the region of £20 - £25 million. Prices have inflated since then.
For those 2 reasons (reluctant sale and inflated prices) I would expect a bigger price for him in the event of him leaving. Not taking any other player into consideration. Also its probably the only position of all 11 where Everton don't have a ready made natural replacement ready to step in.
Holgate would do a job but his natural position is centre back. There is no one else who could fill in at right back until we'd get a proper natural replacement.
Can't see Everton accepting anything less than £25m. Personally can't see him going. Everton won't want him to go and he seems as down to earth and level headed as they come. Don't foresee him pushing a move.
8.) 10 Oct 2016 10:32:52
Of course you compare prices. Why do you think the TF market continually rises?
It is based on the fact that as one player is sold for an exorbitant fee (eg Pogba) the value of the next 'similar' player rises.
£30 m for Luke Shaw was a ridiculous price at the time but it becomes the 'going rate' for a young, international defender and i'm sure would be quoted in TF negotiations by a club either trying to force a fee up (or down) .
When we sold Stones i am sure we took into consideration the price of David Luiz when he left Chelsea.
The market rises each time a player is sold for an even more exorbitant fee. So clearly prices are compared.
{Ed002's Note - It really does not work like that at all. It is pointless discussing finances with football fans at all - it completely confuses them.}
9.) 10 Oct 2016 12:43:36
I shall bow to your greater and condescending knowledge
So the fact that a similar player sells for a certain price has absolutely no impact on the price a club wants / asks for / suggests? Really?
Just like if a house of a certain type sells in a road then someone else buying / selling an identical house will clearly take into consideration that price. I am not saying that it is written in stone but if you don't believe that it comes into the equation at all then i think is yourself that is confused.
{Ed002's Note - Your ignorance transcends almost everything else written on this page. The analogy with houses is possibly the most stupid I have ever heard. Your knowledge of how clubs work and the transfer process is presumably tainted by games or something similar. From now on we will just ignore the financial aspects of the game on the Everton pages - it really is not worth the brief.}
10.) 10 Oct 2016 13:05:17
So what makes you different then ed002, i know a lot of people talk bollocks on this site, but like all of us on here your only a football fan yourself, all you ever do is belittle an talk down to us FANS like your an FA CEO or somethin. just because your job is to edit a football rumour network doesn't make you any better than any of us. ...........abuse remove...........
{Ed002's Note - I am not a football fan at all. My job is not to edit a football rumour network. Abusive glifnards like you continue to troll sites like this sharing their complete ignorance of the game, of the business and certainly of how transfer processes work. They are not needed nor wanted here. And I suggest you move on from here, you are not wanted - and try not to leave a trail of slime as you leave.}
11.) 10 Oct 2016 14:46:24
On a lighter note Coleman has been exceptional for ireland since he was made captain. Back to his form 3 seasons ago. Very suprised seemed quiet to me. He has the minerals to be a strong captain.
12.) 10 Oct 2016 14:51:07
............rubbish removed..............
{Ed002's Note - If you struggle with the truth then one of us has to go - goodbye.}
13.) 10 Oct 2016 21:58:33
Yes Tallaghtblue he is playing good for Ireland. Has a lot of passion for both club and country.
14.) 10 Oct 2016 23:58:11
I am with Ed on this one, you cannot compare his price with Luke Shaw, if you go off that basis, if the English league champions Leicester match what they paid for Vardy and offer £1 million for Lukaku or even double that would that be a fair assessment.
Some of the valuations I see our fans put on players, Coleman 25 plus million, Baines over 20 million, Lukaku over 60 million, yet baulk if we offer 20 million for targets, same old too much, too old, too slow, not good enough.
7.1 million for Gaye, he got slated before he even kicked a ball, relegated team etc, now that same player will probably be in the £20 million plus price range by our supporters.
You just cannot put a valuation on a player, simply because the buying club paid more for another player.
15.) 11 Oct 2016 00:28:19
ed is right, you can't look at what team has payed for other players. when we go to buy a forward from another club should they think that we payed 13mil for niase and base the valuation of the player on that. as an example, if we bid for shane long should they say you payed 13 mil for Niase so long must be worth 30mil?
16.) 11 Oct 2016 14:48:14
If Niasse is worth 13 Million Stateside Long would be in the 50 million bracket going off performances, still the way I look at it, we mugged Villa for 7.1 million for Gaye so we've clawed a bit of the Niasse money back.
17.) 12 Oct 2016 19:26:09
Surely the board and powers that be will just decide on a valuation of what he means to our club, similarly they will set a valuation what they want to pay for a player, if sides don't agree then the deal doesn't happen!
And all this is irrelevant if Coleman does not want to leave and we don't want to sell! Papers can print whatever stories they like.
{Ed002's Note - Right.}
18.) 13 Oct 2016 10:42:47
Pretty much sums it up Southern Toffee.
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09 Jan 2020 03:01:39
Just like every Everton supporter, I have my share of gripes, all of which have been well aired on this site, but in the end all we can do is turn up on the weekend and support the team, and yes their may be some players collecting big pay packets, for less than full commitment, but that is a matter for the manager and the board, we, can do nothing about that, their are player, who should be ashamed of their lack of heart, but we will move on and be still standing long after they have gone.
1.) 09 Jan 2020 09:50:27
It is also a matter for Everton's PR department. Seems to me it needs a complete overhaul.
{Ed002's Note - It has nothing to to with PR.}
2.) 09 Jan 2020 10:27:20
JCW - are the fans becoming a part of the problem? We spend our money on the club merchandise we still go to the games and pay our hard earned cash to watch the match and watch the drivel we’re served up. We’ll have a moan at the match and on sites like these but does it actually achieve anything?
What if fans didn’t attend? Admittedly the gate receipts are a tiny portion of income but if you started to have empty stadiums would the powers that be pay more attention? the tv companies have already paid their money for this tv rights but would maybe think about showing the team in live games In the future and look at reducing the share of the money on offer in future?
3.) 09 Jan 2020 11:24:22
These players have been garbage all season it's fair to say most of this team is on it's way out the door, Ancelotti won't care if you where 45p or 45 mill, and neither should we, all he wants is the players to do what's asked of them, and there lies the problem, if any of you thought we was going to improve over night maybe you should look at yourselves, this is going to take some time and patience "again" don't be surprised if it's a couple of seasons before we shed our mid table status.
4.) 09 Jan 2020 13:12:16
It's to do with a faulty recruitment system. The owner, board and fans want instant success. We bring in a DOF in Brands who 's expertise is recruiting young talent and then with the manager nurturing them which takes time. He is then expected to go out and get players who can perform right away and the club has to pay over the odds and ridiculous wages for mediocre performers. Don't get me started on the manager recruitment fiasco.
I hope we have started to get it right now in the Ancelotti appointment, let him and Brands do their jobs without pressure from Moshiri, Kenwright or the board. It will take time and the fans have to be patient. We have tried the instant success route and it does not work. Providing we are not in danger of being relegated their is no need for panic and this year should be for building and getting rid of the problem players.
{Ed002's Note - His real expertise is building a system from the ground up which will see the same style flow through the players from the kids to the first team. Add to this youngsters who can come in and come through makes a sustainable and successful system that also generates money-making attractive football. Sadly that is not what Everton want.}
5.) 09 Jan 2020 14:07:43
It’s evident in bucket loads at LFC Ed.
{Ed002's Note - I have no idea what you are talking about, sorry.}
6.) 09 Jan 2020 18:54:54
Thanks for the reply Ed002. I can't see much point in recruiting this type of person and the not letting him do hid job, The big question now is "can Brands and Ancelotti work together to create this type of culture at the club? " If not then I can't see Brands staying for much longer.
{Ed002's Note - It is not the job of Carlo A to do that - his sole objective is the first team and getting some points in. And right now I understand that Brands will be assisting him by dealing with the agents of the players that have no future at the club such as Cenk Tosun (who probably has a better chance than most at finding a new home in January). Gylfi Sigurdsson has apparently been told that he can also leave - but it might be tough to find a buyer.}
7.) 09 Jan 2020 19:22:23
Of course it has an element of PR.
{Ed002's Note - Please do explain.}
8.) 09 Jan 2020 22:56:52
I meant that the system you are describing - building from the ground up - is evident at Liverpool. As we found out last Sunday!
9.) 09 Jan 2020 23:44:26
Might be a daft question but I'll ask anyway, obviously with the 1st team in such a poor state, and such a main focus point, is there any sight of the seeds of the system brands implements I'd imagine it's something that's takes a while. I hear it's not what everton want but if that's the case why even bother hiring the guy?
{Ed025's Note - it will take a while dunc but there is nothing yet to believe it is working yet mate..
10.) 10 Jan 2020 21:01:33
Thanks ed025 appreciate the reply.
{Ed025's Note - no problem mate..
11 Dec 2019 10:21:36
I don't know, but doubt, weather anyone in the administration, ever monitors supporters views as expressed, not just on this site, but the many others expressing their views about the club, and yes there are some idiots that no sane man would consider, but their is also a wealth of footballing insight gained over many years.
Our owner has a wealth of financial expertise, but his only football involvement was at a club who would not allow him any input, yes he has a view and has paid dearly for it, he made one great decision, BRAND as director of football, so now it's time to cash in on that great appointment, take a step back and let him make the call on our next manager.
{Ed033's Note - The weather is fairly windy no doubt.
1.) 11 Dec 2019 12:43:46
No need for that ED033! LOL.
30 Nov 2019 02:39:47
There are players, managers, coaches, advisers and agents, all on the goodison gravy train, it's the industry their in, so I suppose we cannot object, but, we continually hear we are in a results business.
If I was in the publishing game, and my last 5 picks had all flopped, or the film industry had my last 5 productions had bombed, or say a geologist working for an oil company and had just drilled, at great cost, my 10th dry well, know one would be saying we must stick with him, so WHY DO WE KEEP GETTING THAT ADVISE.
Well paid fine, but then you have to produce results.
08 Mar 2017 02:03:17
Glad rom has put pen to paper on a 5 year deal, but the rumoured buy out is a consern, if he can just walk away should someone come in with a 70-80mill offer, then the deal, apart from the money, is not really worth the paper it's writern on, it's about building a great team, not a great bank balance, you only get that by keeping your best players.
1.) 08 Mar 2017 09:07:00
But on the flip side, if we value him at say £80m and someone comes in with an unsettling bid of around £65m, then we can easily turn it down and show Rom the contract that says he can only go for x value. I see it as a win win for both parties.
2.) 08 Mar 2017 10:29:19
I agree jcw but if he's going to be going sooner or later like we all no he eventually is, we may aswell get top whack for him.
3.) 08 Mar 2017 14:30:11
So how much is the buy out does anyone know? Do any of the Eds know. because I'm with JCW why sign or is it that Everton get more money for him.
{Ed002's Note - There may well be a termination clause but there sure as hell won't be a buy out clause.}
4.) 08 Mar 2017 15:30:13
Absolutely. People get confused about clauses. No such thing as buy out clauses but trigger clauses is a more accurate term. A great deal of difference.
{Ed002's Note - I have no idea what you are talking about - and Trigger was a horse.}
5.) 08 Mar 2017 18:19:46
Wasn't Trigger a tall, dull character out of Only fools and Horses. Alright Del boy.
6.) 09 Mar 2017 14:29:22
The pen has not touched the paper has it?
{Ed002's Note - Not yet but I am not so surre of the reason everyone worries about this.}
7.) 09 Mar 2017 20:08:51
Well, I only mentioned it because the guy who started this post said he had signed. I am just saying. not yet he hasnt. So we can't even say the ink is still wet. It is actually still in the pen! Any ideas what is holding it up Ed?
{Ed025's Note - i dont sorry degs, the last i heard was that he was ready to put pen to paper mate..
05 Mar 2017 16:02:25
Goodby Mr Barry, you have done a good job, and most of us thank you, but it's time to leave the stage.
you may still do a job for Villa, and I wish you well.
I was willing to give the keeper the chance to cement the no1 spot, but if we are to become real contenders for major prizes, then hart or pickford have to be top of our shopping list.
1.) 05 Mar 2017 18:55:08
Must admit I don't understand why everyone is so excited about Pickford, other than the fact that he is young and English. He is ok but there are plenty of better keepers out there for what he is worth.
I also think it's unfair to have a go at Robles when he was one of maybe 9 other players in our team who had a bad game. Other than today he has been pretty stellar all season.
01 Feb 2017 00:22:21
Far better than a few "panic" buys, we have brought in a few class players, but almost as important we have made a good start on clearing out the dead wood, though i fear that some may be found wanting by their new employers, and come rolling back like bad penneys, Martinez has a lot to answer for.
24 Jan 2017 02:26:06
Robles, was a good shot stopper from the get go, but the improvment in his handeling, command of his area, and his reading of the game, seem to have come on leaps and bounds with the new goalkeeping coach.
24 Jan 2017 02:14:49
Think I would rather have Bailey, Ghezzal, good as he may be, already seems to think he is bigger than the club, the new management seem (and very rightly ) hot on attitude.
17 Jan 2017 23:34:15
Would not want to buy him, at least till he has proved he can cut it at this leval. A loan, with an option to by, or walk away.
14 Jan 2017 19:11:23
If anybody wants to know why every Everton transfer becomes a dog and pony show, the answer is Bill Kenwright, Bill, for god sake step away. Some people think he's wonderful, mr everton, other are (lets be kind) less convinced, but which ever camp you fall into, surely it must be recognised that it is time for him to step away from an active roll.
05 Jan 2020 18:29:13
In short, time for the clear out, and not just the fringe, attitude as well as aptitude, so on top first half, came out with the notion that all they had to do was come out, in the second half to win, once momentum was lost the game was lost.
The problem is how do you off load players on such generous contracts?
27 Nov 2019 16:03:20
The undoing of Ross, was the low life hangers on who lead him down the garden path.
Unfortunately, the same pattern seems to be emerging at Chelsea, great talent, but open to poor choice of "friends".
26 Nov 2019 15:58:43
I know this is a bit naive, given the pay off that would have to be paid, but surly an honourable man would have offered his resignation by now.
14 Mar 2017 21:16:47
No one is bigger than the club, AND, Everton are not powerless. They could drop him on sat, and make him play for one of the juniour sides, they could circulate clubs that he is for sale, at 100m, makeing it clear that under no circumstances would the price be reduced, they could even put him on the bench, and make him stay there, but whaever they do, the crowed should certainly let the spoilt brat no what we think of his behviour, 99% of those there will not have earned 140,000 per year, never mind per week.
27 Jan 2017 00:47:45
Word has it, that Gibson was givern a 2 year contract on the bases that it had been promised by Martinez. We all know martinez's faults, but surely he could not have been that stupid, the man's injury record was bad, add that to his conduct away from the ground, how could anyone in their right mind promissed him a 2 year deal?
{Ed002's Note - Managers do not decide the length of contracts.}