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07 Feb 2017 11:14:34
Ed's, anyone, any sign of existing players signing new contracts? Namely Barkley and Robles who's contracts expire in less than 18 months. Lukaku has a little over 2 years left on his and there was talk of him signing a new one before Christmas. Albeit from his agent who may have been trying to ignite interest.

These are 3 players I'd certainly like to see tied down. I'm sure there are probably one or two others that I'm not aware of whose coming to the end of their contracts also.

{Ed001's Note - I don't know about Robles, but Barkley was keen to get a new contract and expected to sign one before the summer.}

1.) 07 Feb 2017 12:29:13
Thanks for that Ed001.

{Ed001's Note - welcome mate.}

2.) 07 Feb 2017 16:05:58
I was wondering the other day about Lukaku and his contract was said to be 99% done so did it get finalised and signed?

{Ed025's Note - not as far as i know ST, i heard it was close to being sorted but have had no confirmation yet mate..

3.) 07 Feb 2017 19:52:09
Ta muchly Ed.

{Ed025's Note - anytime mate..

4.) 08 Feb 2017 08:38:41
Read an article that Lukaku signed a contract last December earning over £100,000 a week and has a get out clause of £80m. It also said Chelsea are going to give that amount in the summer as Costa is going to China after the bust up with Conte.

What a load of ballony! As you say Ed025 he did not sign the contract last December. Shows how much the papers make up.



21 Jan 2017 23:49:48
There is no longer a top 6 in the premiership. There is a top 7 and we are in it. According to Pulis anyway. He's neutral so that's good enough for me.

Next I expect us to be a major force within that top 7. Going to be a good summer.



10 Jan 2017 22:48:10
Ed002 any info on the future of some players that possibly might be leaving Everton. Namely Gibson, Cleverly, McCarthy and the 2 that there are rumours about Niasse and Kone. Apparently Hull and QPR are their destinations.

Just wondering does it look like any leaving us this month? Happy with the way the incomings are developing. If we get MS it will be a good window even if its stopped at that.

{Ed002's Note - Niasse will almost certainly go to Hull. McCarthy interests Celtic and Crystal Palace with West Brom and Newcastle United probably out-muscled in their interest.}

1.) 11 Jan 2017 07:06:17
Niasse deal to hull almost done shame it's only on loan, But BBC report Scheiderlin deal done

2.) 11 Jan 2017 07:46:06
Thank you Ed002. I take it there is no real developments happening at the moment for anyone else.

{Ed002's Note - I have explained what I know.}



22 Jun 2016 23:24:26
Ed, any truth to Everton agreeing release clause for Sneijder? Seen some reports of £5.6m fee agreed.

Also what's the story with financial fair play? Technically are we allowed to have a net spend of the reported £100m we are supposed to be spending this summer.

{Ed002's Note - Southampton made an enquiry about Sneijder in December 2014 but didn't follow it up - although it substantiates that there has been interest from Kopeman in the past. Lazio have discussed him with Galatasaray but they have stepped back because of the wages being demanded. Their possible willingness to sell in the summer may be driven by a need to reduce wages rather than any transfer fee as he is still seen as an asset by the club - but the club has a European ban to deal with. Forget anything about any release clause. I am not aware of any firm interest from Everton at this time but it doesn't mean that there isn't.

The additional income is in next season's budget (starting July 1) and comes from the additional television money. If there is an issue it might be wages rather than transfer fees.}

1.) 23 Jun 2016 01:56:12
Thanks, Ed002.

{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}

2.) 23 Jun 2016 09:08:01
Thank you Ed002.

{Ed002's Note - No problem.}



15 Jun 2016 09:28:27
Was saying rather get Krul and between him and Robles they would be surely a good keeper between them.

Maybe the media is linking Krul because of the Dutch connection. Be interested in what you have to say Ed.

{Ed002's Note - As I said, strikes me as a risky plan if that is what the club are plotting.}

1.) 15 Jun 2016 10:05:05
Risky, yes. But with luck it could turn out to be good business. I'm sure the medical staff could assess him to see the extent of the injury.

We need at least one keeper. He's 27 and would be approaching his prime as a keeper shortly.

This is all based on him being lucky with injuries obviously. Don't think he'd break the bank and worth taking the risk imho. If it paid off it would be fantastic.

Other option is spend big and get an established injury free player. I just love getting bargains. Hate spending big wads of money. Have to be a dead cert to go into 10's of millions for me.

2.) 15 Jun 2016 14:25:41
I've always liked him, but I know a couple of Newcastle fans, who's opinions I trust, who don't rate him at all. May be a bit of a Howard situation where everyone in the league thinks he's good except his own fans.




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11 Feb 2017 16:57:33
Decent result today. Hard place to go and get a win. Both keepers played very well. 8 games unbeaten. Haven't lost since mid December in premiership. Overall improving loads.

1.) 11 Feb 2017 17:16:09
Agree mate, It's a fair result for both teams. The weather made it tough conditions. We had two or three really good chances to score.

2.) 11 Feb 2017 18:30:14
could of won it if Lookman had stuck even one of his chances away. But that's football. Overall the point picked up against a boro team who don't score many and are pretty solid at the back at home is a decent point and keeps the unbeaten run going. long may it continue.

3.) 11 Feb 2017 19:44:29
Robles kept us in it. Starting to look a good keeper now.



07 Feb 2017 14:10:10
I posted on rumour page why would you listen to Martinez about our defense. I didn't want to comment any more on it but I can't resist myself. Here's a few things about Martinez as manager and defense.

When he took over at Wigan they conceded 45 goals the previous season. What did the concede in his first season in charge? Almost double that 79! Good crack at breaking the record held by Derby with 89 goals conceded in the premiership.

The following 2 season's seen Martinez Wigan concede 61 and 62 I think it will was. Then in his third and final season when the were relegated they conceded 73. From 45 goals when he took over to that. In those 4 years he did manage to break a record. Most goals conceded away from home in the premiership with 55 goals.

He then has the nerve to come out and criticise our defense which imho is the most improved defense this season. Next season I imagine it to be even better when Koeman gets more of his ideas and methods across. Which probably includes defending set pieces.

It really shows how deluded he was and how lucky we were after getting rid of him. He might have some sort of an argument about his attacking play. But his defense always was one of the most diabolical I've seen any managers.

His first season everyone knows why the defense was solid. The second and third year he was at Everton showed his undoubted neglect and nonexistent knowledge of defense.

Koeman is a different story. Very impressed with how he has conducted our defense this season. The best thing is it will only get better. He is after all only here 6 months after the shambles that defenseless manager left behind him.

1.) 07 Feb 2017 17:11:18
Brilliant post NBTB. The man is a complete lemon. It all sounded like sour grapes to me. He failed to mention that we have the 4th best defence in the league!

Listening to him talk was like someone scratching nails down a blackboard.

2.) 07 Feb 2017 17:11:43
Thanks for this-just shows that sometimes statistics don't lie. I share your faith in Ronald Koeman. I have every confidence that he will improve the whole team's performance. After all "defence" is not just about the back four (or five! ) .

3.) 07 Feb 2017 17:31:13
NBTB that is amazing info. but mate, you have wayyyyyy too much time on your hands! Joking aside, I remember Bill Kenright saying "how positive our manager is". and me thinking "thats all well and good, but I hope he is still positive in a year or too if things go wrong! " Unfortunately, as we all know, things went very wrong. But, the past is the past and I think we all know how perilously close we were to the ruination of our great club. The standard of recent signings has been infinitely superior overall. but I will still say thank you to RM for the signing of Lukaku and even Barry and Robles/ McCarthy and possibly Besic. So even though I agree totally with what you say, there were good things he did.

{Ed025's Note - yeah..including leaving degs.. :)

4.) 07 Feb 2017 19:09:45
The irony is he's talked himself into the Belgium job with a world class squad. Even he may succeed there.

5.) 07 Feb 2017 19:55:18
Too much time on my hands. Not really Degsy. More like i make really bad choices about what I spend my time at. It just got up my nose. Talk about hypocrites!

Your last line Degsy has a certain air of sarcasm to it Degsy!? After all we had plenty of debates about that exact thing. You sound exactly like I did at the start of them debates when talking about Martinez :-)

Lennon didn't exactly set Everton a light but can't really say he was a bad signing. Mori is decent also. Holgate, Galloway. They are the ones that were ok to good along with the players you mentioned. As for the rest? Well, let's just say we are better not mentioning them at all.

6.) 07 Feb 2017 20:18:52
Degsy, you say he did some good things, the best thing he did was to get himself sacked.

7.) 07 Feb 2017 22:42:58
I thought you might point those little things out NBTB. But no I wasnt being sarcastic. perhaps I just started listening to your side of the view? Respecting your points!

8.) 08 Feb 2017 08:32:32
As they say Degsy the truth is probably somewhere in the middle.



04 Feb 2017 17:18:55
Fantastic result. Few slack goals let in but still a great victory. Robles made some saves that kept us in it in the second half. Strange that letting in 3 and still playing good. That's my opinion anyway. ROM obviously man of the match. Lookman was very good in the first half.

Cleverly and Niasse got wins today also. Fair play to Niasse. Couldn't of scored against a better side.

Is there an injury concern with McCarthy Ed025 do you know? He played well today. Davies showed some good runs when he came on also. Great to be a blue.

{Ed025's Note - i think james got a knock early in the second half NBTB but not sure if him coming off was tactical or not, very entertaining game if you dont have heart problems mate.. :)



22 Jan 2017 08:48:24
Last two games have been brilliant. Not only have we gotten 6 points, scored 5 goals and let in none, we look very good. Koemans getting his ideas working.

Degsy, a little fact for you. In the last two games how many Koeman signings started? How many Moyes signings started? How many Martinez signings started?

I'll answer for ya. Koeman 1, Moyes 3 and Martinez 5. Leaving aside two players, Barkley and Davies for obvious reasons. Puts things into perspective. All the giving out people do about Martinez signings. Don't hear many pointing out the above fact.

1.) 22 Jan 2017 09:37:42
NB to be fair statistics can always be declared to suit. Flipping it around. how many of Nigel Pearson original team were in the Leicester squad that won the league? Regardless of how many signings of Martinez are still in the team. he was a very poor manager. tactically, fitness, game management, positioning. all very very poor

2.) 22 Jan 2017 09:54:16
It's never about the players being poor for me but always about how they are managed.

Joe Royle saved us from relegation and lifted the FA cup with someone else's players. Moyes stopped the rot in his first game in charge against Fulham with someone else's players. Indeed look at how we played against Norwich last game of the season under Unsie and Royle with someone else's players.

So many unmentioned examples could endlessly support the fact that, if a team is underperforming its focus on do we have the right manager first, before money is given to upgrade.

Koeman is doing a job with the players he inherited whilst upgrading effectively.

3.) 22 Jan 2017 10:06:58
Hi Toffeeace good post have to agree with you mate, it looks like now at last our players are taking on board what R K is asking of them and forgetting the old Martinez way, long may it continue mate we are in good hands now and with a couple more recruits we will be up there with the best of them here's, GuernseyBlue

4.) 22 Jan 2017 10:24:13
I never wanted Martinez before, during or after he was here. Even when we finished 5th some Reds were saying to me you have a good manager. My reply was always we'll see next season.

The reason I never liked Martinez was his style, tactics, fitness of players, not practicing dead ball situations etc. I'm NOT standing up for Martinez and certainly not saying he's a good manager. Like I said never wanted him. Didn't like anything he done at the club. Only one positive for me.

He did sign some good players imho. People get carried away IMO when talking about his tenure and tar everything he done as negative. It's a debate I have been having with Degsy. If any of you were reading them you would see what I'm saying is consistent.

For the 100th time I will say again I was a Moyes supporter and thought he was very good.

My main point of all this is Koeman is more the difference and not the players. I wanted Koeman. Even before he came, even at the very beginning when he was denying coming. He was my first choice.

Anyone can check my previous posts if they feel the need to. I knew people would start on about Martinez was bad. People that obviously didn't read my posts before.

I said all along it was Martinez that was the problem not the players. Koeman is the difference. He's top notch. The defense is like it was under Moyes. Not like under the fraud. The fraud was just that but his signings were not as bad as a lot of people make out.

5.) 22 Jan 2017 11:01:49
We have a 20 goal a season striker because of Martinez. I'd say he deserves recognition for that.

Like you NBTB I never wanted him, was pleased though with the first season and then overwhelmed with a large dose of "I told you so" for the next two.

He gone now. And as weeks go by so do the nasty habits he introduced thanks to Koeman.

6.) 22 Jan 2017 11:03:23
Good post NBTB agree 100 per cent mate, GuernseyBlue

7.) 22 Jan 2017 12:26:38
NBTB I bow to your statistic mate and amamazed. It is an emotive subject guys, but me and NBTB respect each others view and I gave him some stats . and he is just responding. so no worries from me there. in fact I think it is fair to say we both respect each others in depth knowledge of all things EFC. But yes Martinez should be respected for Lukaku and some of the things he did. I will accept that.

8.) 22 Jan 2017 12:29:41
Cheers GuernseyBlue. Yea I agree Toffee Ace. Koeman is the top class manager we have been crying out for ages. Tells it like it is. By the looks of things he has brought Barkley to a new level.

Future is very bright. We all deserve it seeing that we all stayed loyal to the cause. Good things come to those who wait eh, new stadium. It's all very exciting.

9.) 22 Jan 2017 12:48:33
I misunderstood your point NB, i.e that the manager makes all difference. totally agree mate

10.) 22 Jan 2017 13:52:51
My view on this has always been identical with NBTB.

it doesn't matter what players you sign though, it all comes down to what you instruct them to do on the pitch.

It is so difficult when you don't have money to buy players who can improve your squad and take you on a level.

Martinez had pretty similar funds to Moyes. In that I mean he had to find bargains or unproven players. Unless you spend £20 or £30 mil you are not going to change the team that much.

To think though that Moyes didn't make any bad signings is foolish. Billy, Kroldrop where two of his big signings that were utter rubbish. You could even add Jelly (half a season doesn't make you a success even though I loved the guy) and Beattie to it as well.

What I would say though is that neither were successful and both failures. I hope Koeman will continue shopping for a higher calibre of player and continue setting these high expectations he has.

11.) 22 Jan 2017 17:05:31
Yep BlueJohnUns we seem to have similar views on a lot of things. No problem jcl1878. Very easy to misunderstand some things said on here.

Of course we respect each others views Degsy. We're Blues after all. I think the vast majority of people on here would agree its a good time to be a blue and we are very much heading in the right direction.

The last year has been a dream come true for us blues.

12.) 22 Jan 2017 18:13:58
A 5th place finish with their highest point total year one, knock out round of the Euro's year two, and two cup semi-finals year three under Martinez.

That's not bad in my opinion.

If his team could defend set pieces and not give away late goals their position on the table would have been much better. But then again if my Aunt had a @#$% she'd be my Uncle.



15 Jan 2017 18:45:13
We're going to win the league, we're going to win the league! La, La, la, la, la.

1.) 15 Jan 2017 20:00:58
That's the spirit NBTB

2.) 15 Jan 2017 20:08:52
Who disagreed with that? I'm deeply hurt there are people that think we are not going to win the league :- (




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09 Feb 2017 09:17:29
Jeers for that Blue Tommy. Blue76 is entitled to his opinion. I've been called a lot worse than a waffler so it doesn't bother me at all. Agree with your post.



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08 Feb 2017 20:25:21
Selective reading more like.



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08 Feb 2017 17:54:43
Get real yourself Blue76. You made out that he signed the contract with no benefit for himself. That it was entirely for the clubs benefit. You then tell other people to get real? Good one Blue76. You get very personal there in your reply. No need for that. You don't have the first idea of the 'type' of supporter I am.

Obviously haven't read to many of my posts or have not been reading them for too long. If you have you would see that 99% of the time I stick up for players when they get stick. On this occasion I won't stick up for Lukaku. Because who else at the club has the amount of media coverage about leaving? A lot of that is down to Lukaku.

Never once have i claimed to 'know' the full ins and outs of the club. Daily mail? what's that? Seems as though you think I believe everything in the paper. Think again, just go to the rumours page where I wrote a post on LUKAKU saying the paper wrote thrash before any of these posts. Whether the media are right or wrong with the rumours Lukaku should come out and tell the truth. Just like Coleman done. No truth to his rumours but he had the decency to come out and squash it straight away.

What next Blue76 are you going to claim to know what underwear I'm wearing, how I look and what I do?



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08 Feb 2017 16:05:54
Blue76 hold on a second. No one that i see is having a go at Lukaku. Stig makes some very valid points above. I love Lukaku and would love him to stay. As stig says no player is ever bigger than the club so if he wants to go let him go. There was a lot of noise about him going. Ever since his first season here. He never done anything to silence it and even changed his agent to a reputable manipulater.

Look at Coleman. Came out in the last week of transfer window just gone by that Utd wanted him. What does Coleman do? Silences it straight away by saying he was not aware of it. Coleman comes across and always has as being totally and utterly devoted to Everton. Loyal to the cause. Never heard any comments from him that he wants to win trophies and that he wants to play under the top managers. Even when the fraud was here. Coleman is a prime example of a true professional who if he wanted to could manipulate stories and come across like he thinks he's above all other players at Everton. He never did.

You say Lukaku signed a contract for the good of Everton. That really made me chuckle Blue76. He signed that contract because he significant benefitted from it as well. How much of a pay rise did he get? Don't kid yourself. There are players who come across grateful for the opportunity and to play for Everton. I used Coleman as an example. Baines is another good one. Could of left to Utd when Fellaini did but he stayed loyal.

Lukaku on the other hand just doesn't come across as this type of player. For the record I'm a big supporter of Lukaku's and have been since day one. Applaud his goals, give him praise. Say its fantastic to have him in our squad. But when it comes down to who I support more the club or Lukaku the club wins every time. Lukaku never had the respect for the club to come out and silence the media after comments he made while on international duty. Like a certain Coleman had when there was stories about him.

Stig sums it up nicely for me. No player bigger than the club. Don't care if he eventually turns out to be the best player of all time. If he truely thinks he is too good for Everton let him go. As stig says get a BIG fee for him and wish him good luck. Otherwise show the respect our great club deserves, do your stuff on the field and keep your gob shut about playing for anyone except Everton.



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08 Feb 2017 12:43:21
Don't think Aguero will ever happen. As much as I'd like to see Lukaku stay I have to agree with every word stig says above also.




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21 Feb 2017 23:31:50
Early days billydean. Still only 22. But at the same time I know where your coming from.



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16 Feb 2017 20:15:06
We all see things differently. Who knows what would happen if Lukaku leaves? It could turn out to be a positive thing. Don't get me wrong, the last thing I want is Lukaku gone.

Back when Lineker left everyone thought we would struggle the following season without him. Everyone knows we went one better the following season and took the cup. Point is it was a blessing in disguise.

Not saying for one minute we should let Lukaku go but the point is everything would if he left. No one knows whether the end result would be positive, negative or indifferent. We can all be clever in hindsight.

This is truly what I hope happens. Lukaku stays for the long term and Koeman builds a good team around him. I honestly think we are not far off challenging at the top. If we keep going in the direction we are we will get there sooner than people think imho.

Chelsea are out on there own this season but the following 5 teams are very close to each other. I expect us to be challenging and competing as much as any of these 5 come the end of next season. A bit of luck and Walsh working his magic during the summer would make it very achievable imho.



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11 Feb 2017 15:53:24
I would be thinking along the same lines spudv. But if Arsenal offer him an attractive package? Funny I was thinking Simeone. My favourite manager. Hope they don't get him either! Make it harder for us to overtake them.



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11 Feb 2017 12:20:16
Never mind Martinez. Hope Arsenal don't come looking for Koeman in the summer.



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10 Feb 2017 13:05:26
First impressions seem to show Deloufeu is doing good with Milan. Someone like Barcelona may well take a punt. Stones is slightly unfortunate that the City project does not seem to be working. Its not only him that is not playing well. City as a whole are playing under par.