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30 Mar 2017 08:19:34
Hi Ed, any news on potential outgoings this summer. Namely Cleverly, Niasse, McGeady etc.

Thank you in advance.

{Ed002's Note - Hull have a cheapish option to buy Niasse at the end of his loan so we will see at the end of teh season. Lukaku will look to move on to achieve his goal of playing football at the highest level - Everton are at fault for screwing up the contract situation. Spurs interest in Ross Barkley has waned - we need to see if anyone pushes for him. Tom Cleverley has both Newcastle and Watford interested and Milan, subject to resolving another issue, want to make the loan of Gerard Deulofeu permanent.}


1.) 31 Mar 2017 11:00:00
Cheapish? I read a report that it was a £10m option so is that what represents cheapish?


2.) 01 Apr 2017 03:44:07
Cleverly has gone previous reports quoted 9 million which is a profit since we got him on a Free. Niasse is also in 8-10 million apparently. How did Everton screw up contract negotiations?
Ross was never likely to move I believe his agents are stirring the pot to get a better ideal, he loves playing for the Blues. just my opinion.
Wellzee.


 

 

07 Feb 2017 11:14:34
Ed's, anyone, any sign of existing players signing new contracts? Namely Barkley and Robles who's contracts expire in less than 18 months. Lukaku has a little over 2 years left on his and there was talk of him signing a new one before Christmas. Albeit from his agent who may have been trying to ignite interest.

These are 3 players I'd certainly like to see tied down. I'm sure there are probably one or two others that I'm not aware of whose coming to the end of their contracts also.

{Ed001's Note - I don't know about Robles, but Barkley was keen to get a new contract and expected to sign one before the summer.}


1.) 07 Feb 2017 12:29:13
Thanks for that Ed001.

{Ed001's Note - welcome mate.}


2.) 07 Feb 2017 16:05:58
I was wondering the other day about Lukaku and his contract was said to be 99% done so did it get finalised and signed?

{Ed025's Note - not as far as i know ST, i heard it was close to being sorted but have had no confirmation yet mate..


3.) 07 Feb 2017 19:52:09
Ta muchly Ed.

{Ed025's Note - anytime mate..


4.) 08 Feb 2017 08:38:41
Read an article that Lukaku signed a contract last December earning over £100,000 a week and has a get out clause of £80m. It also said Chelsea are going to give that amount in the summer as Costa is going to China after the bust up with Conte.

What a load of ballony! As you say Ed025 he did not sign the contract last December. Shows how much the papers make up.


 

 

21 Jan 2017 23:49:48
There is no longer a top 6 in the premiership. There is a top 7 and we are in it. According to Pulis anyway. He's neutral so that's good enough for me.

Next I expect us to be a major force within that top 7. Going to be a good summer.


 

 

10 Jan 2017 22:48:10
Ed002 any info on the future of some players that possibly might be leaving Everton. Namely Gibson, Cleverly, McCarthy and the 2 that there are rumours about Niasse and Kone. Apparently Hull and QPR are their destinations.

Just wondering does it look like any leaving us this month? Happy with the way the incomings are developing. If we get MS it will be a good window even if its stopped at that.

{Ed002's Note - Niasse will almost certainly go to Hull. McCarthy interests Celtic and Crystal Palace with West Brom and Newcastle United probably out-muscled in their interest.}


1.) 11 Jan 2017 07:06:17
Niasse deal to hull almost done shame it's only on loan, But BBC report Scheiderlin deal done


2.) 11 Jan 2017 07:46:06
Thank you Ed002. I take it there is no real developments happening at the moment for anyone else.

{Ed002's Note - I have explained what I know.}


 

 

22 Jun 2016 23:24:26
Ed, any truth to Everton agreeing release clause for Sneijder? Seen some reports of £5.6m fee agreed.

Also what's the story with financial fair play? Technically are we allowed to have a net spend of the reported £100m we are supposed to be spending this summer.

{Ed002's Note - Southampton made an enquiry about Sneijder in December 2014 but didn't follow it up - although it substantiates that there has been interest from Kopeman in the past. Lazio have discussed him with Galatasaray but they have stepped back because of the wages being demanded. Their possible willingness to sell in the summer may be driven by a need to reduce wages rather than any transfer fee as he is still seen as an asset by the club - but the club has a European ban to deal with. Forget anything about any release clause. I am not aware of any firm interest from Everton at this time but it doesn't mean that there isn't.

The additional income is in next season's budget (starting July 1) and comes from the additional television money. If there is an issue it might be wages rather than transfer fees.}


1.) 23 Jun 2016 01:56:12
Thanks, Ed002.

{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}


2.) 23 Jun 2016 09:08:01
Thank you Ed002.

{Ed002's Note - No problem.}


 

 

 

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15 Jun 2017 21:13:34
Ed, where is Klaassen's number one position? Seeing a lot of people on here saying he would be in midfield with Gana, Davies or Schneiderlin.

I thought he would be more Barkley's position? Maybe both but which is his primary position?

{Ed002's Note - He is an attacking midfield player.}


1.) 15 Jun 2017 21:39:35
Definitely not the same as Barkley then 😂.


2.) 15 Jun 2017 22:21:33
Hopefully the same only better Smit666!

Seriously though I'd love for Barkley to stay. Would be good healthy competition.

{Ed025's Note - if we sign sigurdsson he wont get in the side NBTB, even if its only klassen hes struggling for me mate..


3.) 15 Jun 2017 22:36:04
Agree Ed. I think he'll be off now, prob to Tottenham if they off load sissoko.

{Ed025's Note - he might struggle to get a higher club than us smit, and highly unlikely to find a better one mate..


4.) 15 Jun 2017 22:20:22
Just as I thought. Thank you Ed002.


 

 

03 Jun 2017 13:58:15
I'd like some people to explain their comments I'm seeing quite regularly on here. When talking about potential signings I see comments like 'if we are aiming for top 4 player x is not good enough'.

That comment baffles me and seems to me the people making them think the only way we would get into the top 4 or win something is by buying it. Not going to happen imho. We are 'well off' but still cannot compete with the financial clout of say Man City.

I'm not knocking the club and have praised recent efforts of bringing the club forward. Just mystified by some people thinking players are 'not good enough' for us because the don't cost £50m + million and play for the likes of Barcelona or Chelsea.


1.) 03 Jun 2017 14:58:54
I'm with you on this NBTB look at Gana £7mill and was so important for us last season, I'm looking forward to the names that Walsh has up his sleeve that will compliment our team but don't cost the earth yes maybe 1 or 2 20mill players but I'm sure out there are players who will wear the shirt and play for us no matter what its just finding them.


2.) 03 Jun 2017 16:23:05
At last some normal fans being realistic, until new ground is up and running we won't be splashing lots of cash our ground is at max with revenue, moshri is slowly increasing our revenue streams with the USM deal and new kit deal with is trebled the old deal but until we are in champions league and the ground is done we can't compete to buy the top players, we have to be clever and practical.
Sandro would be a bargain due to buy out clause, Pickford is a big risk at that sort of money, still would go with Hart as we can get him I feel and think he would come, I know this divides opinion but I would have Rooney still scored more than any of our players apart from lukaku, and anyone who thinks he does not make us better are playing to much fantasy football.


3.) 03 Jun 2017 16:39:31
Doesn't matter now how much city's owners have. They've set the club up to compete at the highest level financially within FFP rules. That's where we are lacking but are making progress, thanks to FM. I would like us to to be there as soon as possible. But here's the thing, even if we were able to spend massive, we would be one of seven teams competing for top top players. But as there's no CL for us we will just not get them.

So we get the gems instead and hope they are the right players to stick around long enough for us to break into top four and then get us some real marquee signings.


4.) 03 Jun 2017 18:02:51
All good posts above, positive I like it, GuernseyBlue.


5.) 03 Jun 2017 18:40:45
OP is spot on. We need to be buying the players with the most potential to improve. Lookman looks a world beater in his age group, we might have the next Ian Wright in him. We need to use our money to move forward not to win the next game.


6.) 03 Jun 2017 19:02:43
Blimey this is a first for a while all sensible positive posts. The current state of the cub is good and we are going in the right direction both on and off the field. A few sensible additions making us stronger, both in the short term but hopefuly a couple of longer term prospects would do for me. The future is looking very exciting for EFC.


7.) 03 Jun 2017 19:10:43
If only we can get players who want to wear the shirt and turn up for every game Tom Davies comes to mind, if they put in the same commitment as him I would be on happy bunny GuernseyBlue.


8.) 03 Jun 2017 21:07:17
All good posts. Like to mention Toffee Ace. I agree wholeheartedly with your post. That's what I was getting at as well in relation to FFP rules.

Also agree with everything Truebluemetz79. Only thing might not agree with is Hart but he would be an improvement with what we have.


9.) 04 Jun 2017 08:30:42
Good replies as usual NBTB, keep em coming mate, cheers GuernseyBlue.


10.) 04 Jun 2017 09:07:58
For us to be competitive next season we need quality players and in the peak of their playing careers. Money isn't important whether it's large or small fees being paid but the right type of player is.

City isn't a great model to use as they got the largest fine in history for breaching financial rules. However, Arsenal are and what they've done to compete is the blueprint we should follow.

They buy a couple of real quality players but also established players and that helps them develop over time. They should have kicked on by now but it's a tough league.

We need to keep investing in youth for the development team but our priority is exactly what Koeman said, we need players 26 upwards who are established and experienced that improve the team NOW not in 2 or three years.

As for the value? Who cares how much a player costs?


11.) 04 Jun 2017 09:44:53
Its a cycle that is hard to get into. To play champions league we need champions league players. Champions league players will not come unless we are in the champions league.

As I said its a cycle and a tough one to get established in. Imho the club is spot on with how to get in wit a mix of tactics which is starting to work imo.

Youth, signings that are value i. e. as pointed out by lee1887 above Gana for £7m. Along with quality players Bolasie £20m or £25m forget exactly how much it was.

The club went and got the best in the land to do this. Walsh is top dog to get the right players in. Our U23's won the league and the personel involved are probably the best in the land also as they are doing a fantastic job in supplying the first team with quality youth players. Example being Holgate and Davies to mention only a few.

Imho this is the way to go and I wouldn't turn my nose up at any players. We would never of signed the likes of Coleman or Gana if we done that in the past.

The main point I made in original post was people saying players are 'not good enough'. I don't care where they come from as long as they produce the goods. Doesn't bother me when we are linked to players who are deemed 'not good enough' as I have every faith in the team put in place to recruit.

My guess is there will be more Gana's signed who will improve things. Walsh, Koeman and co will pluck players out when not many can see potential. I'm delighted with this approach as it is more sensible, practical and prudent than trying to buy success. Which we couldn't do even if we tried.


12.) 04 Jun 2017 09:56:10
100% agree if the. players that are picked by RK And S W, that is good enough for me, they are the ones in the know, not any of us cheers mate, GuernseyBlue, ps interesting almost everyone. On here agrees just the odd few don't, game of opinions as we say.


13.) 04 Jun 2017 11:17:19
I don't disagree at all NBTB with what your point is. We are starting to move up into the same category as the teams above us. However, the majority of our fans think that to do that you must buy players that are £50mil to do it when in fact it's all about quality. You also have the other end of the scale where people want bargains all the time.

If we spend £50m great if we spend £5m great as long as both of them are quality players that improve the squad. The fans of the clubs that have been spending big bucks all these years don't even look at the prices being paid and are not concerned. We need to be more like this but clearly it's going to take time to change our way of thinking.


14.) 04 Jun 2017 14:45:56
I said the same about a year ago mate. People want "marquee" signings whatever they are. I pointed out Peter Reid, Kevin Sheedy, Graeme Sharp, Adrian Heath and the rest of that squad. None were "marquee" signings until Lineker arrived. then we won bugger all.


15.) 04 Jun 2017 19:16:28
Players come to us as quite low profile then are sold as marquee players for other clubs. We need to stop this cycle by getting the results in league standings that makes these players want to stay.


 

 

21 May 2017 18:00:56
I'd like to say how delighted I am with how much we have improved this season.

Scored 3 more goals, let in 11 less goals and got 14 more points! That is an improvement. Well done Koeman, Walsh and co. If we improve by the same next year we all know where we will be.

Strange season this. Arsenal got more points this season than last season. Finished second last year and 5th this year. Just thought I'd throw that in there.

Anyway future is bright. A lot brighter than it was last season.


1.) 21 May 2017 18:13:44
Good post NBTB. I guess last year Chelsea, Liverpool and man who were off their game. Normality resumed this season. I do think though with the right signings we have a chance of finishing higher than Arsenal, Man who and maybe even spurs with them moving to Wembley. Who knows but very promising season ahead.


2.) 21 May 2017 18:40:17
Great post NBTB, especially the Arsenal stat. I am happy we have stopped the slide. You of all people know I was sceptical after the Martinez fiasco. However. If we end up 6th next season and progress in the cups I will be delighted. We need to secure which players we have and want to hold and replace any who are leaving. re-evaluate the kids and see which ones are ready to make the step up. Then it is as simple as how we perform. But yes the future is 10 times better than it was.


3.) 22 May 2017 09:52:24
I'm my humble opinion, everton need to not only concentrate on upfront but in defence, i would try and get Gibson and smalling, I no smalling can be abit hit or miss, but I think with koeman being a defender he could really make him in to a great defender and with his extra height good for corners and attack, plus I like the thought of the city lad but I think Wilshire would be a cracking addition, when playing with good players he can be a fantastic player and hasn't been that injury prone this season.


 

 

11 May 2017 11:13:25
Good bit of business tying Mirallas down to a contract. With plenty of outgoings inevitable this summer its brilliant news for the club.

Even though I have been critical of Mirallas on occasion its good for club. I expected big things from him when he came. For me he hasn't completely lived up to them. Hope he does over the coming years.

There is plenty other players I'd see go than him. Will be crucial for us to have decent size squad with Europe next season.


1.) 11 May 2017 13:28:40
After RKs press conference it seems that he's had enough of Barkley not signing his new deal yet. He has 1 week to sign or be sold. Good enough too.

He also didn't seem all too bothered by it either. Obviously has plans in place should he decide to go.

My own opinion is I'm a little disappointed that he hasn't made up his mind. Should be more decisive and let everyone know and plan for the future. Although I'm pretty sure that plans are already afoot. With or without his decision.


2.) 11 May 2017 15:00:53
I honestly wouldn't be too upset if he left, on his day he's a world beater but those days are too few and far between. If we could do a deal on sigurdsson to replace him I'd be very happy. Much more consistent performer, wish we had the money to buy him when he left Spurs.


3.) 11 May 2017 16:40:28
With Europe next year imo we need as much talented players as we can. There will more than likely be a good few players coming in as it is. No need to replace Mirallas now. Good players are hard to come by.

I agree he is not consistent but it would not be easy to replace him with as good or better player than he is.

{Ed025's Note - that would depend on a couple of things for me NBTB, if he is committed to the club even though he may not be a regular starter, and how much would we get for him to purchase a replacement mate..


4.) 11 May 2017 18:41:04
Exactly Ed025. Imho he is worth more to us than selling. He's 30 this year. Could we expect anymore than £10m? I doubt it. Might not even get that.

I think he is committed. If / when he signs I guess that's a commitment in itself as he will more than likely finish his career at Everton. I expected big things when he came because he showed good promise. For some reason it didn't take off. Maybe next season.

{Ed025's Note - i keep saying that though NBTB, he has oodles of talent i think but lacks application..will the real kevin mirallas please stand up..


 

 

05 May 2017 15:04:14
Coleman ya absolute legend! Now there is a top player not afraid to commit his future to Everton.


1.) 05 May 2017 18:21:26
Class move from your club as well, the lad needs support and that's what he's got, I suppose many would have waited to see how well he recovers. Nice one.


2.) 05 May 2017 19:31:08
Good shout that NBTB top top player, GuernseyBlue.


 

 

 

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19 Jul 2017 13:05:29
I know Ed025 and your right.

Its a terrible shame that he can't see it for what it is himself. He'll probably look back and regret it. In that regard I can't help but feel for him.

At the same that's me thinking his future is mapped out for him. I hope he does reach his potential. Even at another club.

As you say probably best for all concerned if he leaves.


 

 

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19 Jul 2017 12:18:46
Totally agree Ed025. This has people taking advantage written all over it. I feel sorry for Barkley. It seems to me his failure as a person will also influence his failure as a footballer.

Failure as a person as in him being naive. Footballers personal characteristics can have detrimental affects on their careers. Many the talented footballer didn't achieve their potential because of this. Barkley would not be the first.

I'm not having a go. I am very fond of him and hope he stays. The kid can't pick if he is naive or not and is probably totally blind to it.

I hope he gets divine inspiration, sees that some people around him are not good for him. Stays at Everton and develops the undoubted talent he possesses. Sadly imho his days at Everton are numbered as Koeman doesn't seem to see a future for him at the club.

{Ed025's Note- the sympathy for ross is on the wane NBTB, supporters are losing patience with this spoilt brat attitude he is showing at the moment and its getting to the stage where him leaving would be the best thing for everybody mate..


 

 

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12 Jul 2017 08:30:43
Was thinking the same thing with Rooney looking so fit Toffee ace. I think he is mad to get on the pitch for Everton and has been preparing for it for a long time. There were reports that he heard Koeman saying he was interested in March and since that there was only one place he was going to go. Looks like he has been training hard if that's anything to go by.

I honestly think he deep down wanted to play for Everton and is grateful to get the chance to do that now. At the same time I do think there is an element of risk to it. Small but still some risk. Can't wait to see him bust a gut in Goodison.


 

 

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12 Jul 2017 07:04:39
Fair enough Eddy you didn't say he was crap. Your right it is a risk by RK and SW. Imho it is one very much worth taking. I was directing my post to supporters in general as much as a reply to your post.

Just hate to see people knocking him before he has even kicked a ball yet. Same goes for the right back we are supposed to be singing later on in the week. Every player should be supported imho. Not branded a failure before he even starts. Again don't take it personal Eddy I know what your saying. I'm more talking about a small minority in this post.


 

 

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11 Jul 2017 21:52:37
Why knock Rooney before he starts? He looks lean, mean and a fighting machine. I wouldn't be surprised if Rooney silences a lot of people next season.

He had a bad patch a good few years back when people were saying he was losing it and he regained his ways. Its was only a mini one compared to now. I won't be surprised if he has a good season. Not saying it will defiantly happen still won't be surprised if it does.


 

 

 

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21 Jul 2017 21:55:39
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15 Jul 2017 16:55:03
Your last 2 sentences are basically my post above. Obviously agree Bluetooth. Exciting times ahead.


 

 

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15 Jul 2017 14:05:13
Totally agree Truebluemetz imho we are spending very wisely so far. Pickford, Klaassen, Sandro, and Keane all under 23 with big futures. Packing the U23's with quality also shows that a long term strategy is in place rather than trying to win the league immediately by throwing big money at players who are already developed or in later (prime) years of their careers.


 

 

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14 Jul 2017 16:04:53
Correction: we are in a position to compete for trophies.


 

 

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14 Jul 2017 15:18:33
BlueJohnUns the business degree is one element of my understanding in business. You seem to miss the part where I work in my fathers business. All my life. He worked in the same business all his life as his father done. Plenty of generations in business there. The degree is only secondary to that.

I'm obviously delighted with the club recently and have nothing but praise for them. Trophies? It wasn't about trophies this last 22 years. It was about good business. Because of that good business we are not in a position to compete for trophies now.

I was talking in general and in general if a business over spends it goes under. Its because I care so much for Everton FC that it is a concern for me personally. I realise others don't even entertain the idea and I envy those who think this way.