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07 Feb 2017 11:14:34
Ed's, anyone, any sign of existing players signing new contracts? Namely Barkley and Robles who's contracts expire in less than 18 months. Lukaku has a little over 2 years left on his and there was talk of him signing a new one before Christmas. Albeit from his agent who may have been trying to ignite interest.

These are 3 players I'd certainly like to see tied down. I'm sure there are probably one or two others that I'm not aware of whose coming to the end of their contracts also.

{Ed001's Note - I don't know about Robles, but Barkley was keen to get a new contract and expected to sign one before the summer.}

1.) 07 Feb 2017 12:29:13
Thanks for that Ed001.

{Ed001's Note - welcome mate.}

2.) 07 Feb 2017 16:05:58
I was wondering the other day about Lukaku and his contract was said to be 99% done so did it get finalised and signed?

{Ed025's Note - not as far as i know ST, i heard it was close to being sorted but have had no confirmation yet mate..

3.) 07 Feb 2017 19:52:09
Ta muchly Ed.

{Ed025's Note - anytime mate..

4.) 08 Feb 2017 08:38:41
Read an article that Lukaku signed a contract last December earning over £100,000 a week and has a get out clause of £80m. It also said Chelsea are going to give that amount in the summer as Costa is going to China after the bust up with Conte.

What a load of ballony! As you say Ed025 he did not sign the contract last December. Shows how much the papers make up.



21 Jan 2017 23:49:48
There is no longer a top 6 in the premiership. There is a top 7 and we are in it. According to Pulis anyway. He's neutral so that's good enough for me.

Next I expect us to be a major force within that top 7. Going to be a good summer.



10 Jan 2017 22:48:10
Ed002 any info on the future of some players that possibly might be leaving Everton. Namely Gibson, Cleverly, McCarthy and the 2 that there are rumours about Niasse and Kone. Apparently Hull and QPR are their destinations.

Just wondering does it look like any leaving us this month? Happy with the way the incomings are developing. If we get MS it will be a good window even if its stopped at that.

{Ed002's Note - Niasse will almost certainly go to Hull. McCarthy interests Celtic and Crystal Palace with West Brom and Newcastle United probably out-muscled in their interest.}

1.) 11 Jan 2017 07:06:17
Niasse deal to hull almost done shame it's only on loan, But BBC report Scheiderlin deal done

2.) 11 Jan 2017 07:46:06
Thank you Ed002. I take it there is no real developments happening at the moment for anyone else.

{Ed002's Note - I have explained what I know.}



22 Jun 2016 23:24:26
Ed, any truth to Everton agreeing release clause for Sneijder? Seen some reports of £5.6m fee agreed.

Also what's the story with financial fair play? Technically are we allowed to have a net spend of the reported £100m we are supposed to be spending this summer.

{Ed002's Note - Southampton made an enquiry about Sneijder in December 2014 but didn't follow it up - although it substantiates that there has been interest from Kopeman in the past. Lazio have discussed him with Galatasaray but they have stepped back because of the wages being demanded. Their possible willingness to sell in the summer may be driven by a need to reduce wages rather than any transfer fee as he is still seen as an asset by the club - but the club has a European ban to deal with. Forget anything about any release clause. I am not aware of any firm interest from Everton at this time but it doesn't mean that there isn't.

The additional income is in next season's budget (starting July 1) and comes from the additional television money. If there is an issue it might be wages rather than transfer fees.}

1.) 23 Jun 2016 01:56:12
Thanks, Ed002.

{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}

2.) 23 Jun 2016 09:08:01
Thank you Ed002.

{Ed002's Note - No problem.}



15 Jun 2016 09:28:27
Was saying rather get Krul and between him and Robles they would be surely a good keeper between them.

Maybe the media is linking Krul because of the Dutch connection. Be interested in what you have to say Ed.

{Ed002's Note - As I said, strikes me as a risky plan if that is what the club are plotting.}

1.) 15 Jun 2016 10:05:05
Risky, yes. But with luck it could turn out to be good business. I'm sure the medical staff could assess him to see the extent of the injury.

We need at least one keeper. He's 27 and would be approaching his prime as a keeper shortly.

This is all based on him being lucky with injuries obviously. Don't think he'd break the bank and worth taking the risk imho. If it paid off it would be fantastic.

Other option is spend big and get an established injury free player. I just love getting bargains. Hate spending big wads of money. Have to be a dead cert to go into 10's of millions for me.

2.) 15 Jun 2016 14:25:41
I've always liked him, but I know a couple of Newcastle fans, who's opinions I trust, who don't rate him at all. May be a bit of a Howard situation where everyone in the league thinks he's good except his own fans.




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18 Mar 2017 09:05:59
This is how I see the Rom situation.

As a player he is no doubt fantastic and was a very good buy for the club. I apprentice his goals and commitment to the club. I hope he plays his whole career with Everton but I'm going to give my honest views on him.

Has he the potential to be world class? Definitely. After all at his age he has scored as many goals as pretty much anyone. His goal record for his age shows the potential he has and the heights he may achieve.

However, imho he still has a lot of work to get to the level of Messi or Ronaldo as he is constantly being compared to. Currently I see two reasons for this.

One, is he truly as good as he is made out to be? As I said he is fantastic and has a tremendous goal record. Back to my honest opinion. I can't help but think he has had a the help he could possibly want. I mean everything in the team is set up for him. It seems to me under Koeman and even Martinez the whole emphasis was on him. How to supply him and tactics were made to suit him. Would he get the same privileges at another so called bigger club? Maybe but imho not to the same extent. That's one reason why I question is he slightly over rated.

Secondly he is lacking in some areas. I'm talking about when he is considered world class. To be considered world class imho you need to have a all round play of the highest degree which the likes of Messi and Ronaldo obviously posses. The areas I see him lacking are heading and hold up play. He needs to improve both a lot to be become truly world class.

I hope he does and I'm not knocking him. Just saying how I see it.

Another thing is his agent. Imho these mind games are a lot to do with him. He wasn't brought in recently by Rom to do nothing. It seems he likes playing games and has got the attentions of all possible suiters for Lukaku in the summer lined up. Plenty of time for clubs that are interested to get their house in order and make signing Lukaku happen. No doubt he will get paid handsomely for his planning and scheming.

That's if the move happens. I'm still hopeful Rom will stay and that the media is making a mountain out of a mould hill. My criticism of Lukaku's play has nothing to do with his presumed desire to leave. Just how I see it. Whether he stays or goes I hope him the best.

The club will move on and get better with or without him. I have no doubt about that because I have every faith in the ability of Koeman, Walsh, Moshiri and all involved in the future of our great club.

1.) 18 Mar 2017 15:08:32
We need a quality back up/ replacement in place for next season. If he stays and talks to the press then RK can drop him, if he isn't performing then drop him. At the moment we are too reliant on him and play a certain way to get the best out of him. He's a sensible lad so to say we are not ambitious this season is ludicrous. Many players have left Everton for bigger teams some have done well (rooney) and some haven't (rodwell) . There is no guarantee, not to mention if we do challenge for the top 4/ 6 in the next few seasons lukaku might just join one of the teams we knock out of the top 4/ 6. My thought is if he stays all well and good but if he goes then so be it.



11 Mar 2017 17:29:42
Do you still think West Brom might catch us Degsy?

1.) 11 Mar 2017 18:05:51
Hi NBTB have to say West Brom were woeful today can't understand how they were so close, they only turned up today to get a point, cheers mate GuernseyBlue.

2.) 11 Mar 2017 20:34:34
Imho Pulis teams always punch above their weight. No disrespect to West Brom. The are a well organised thrilled team who can grind out results. They are doing very well. No doubt we are on the up.

Last game was a blip and it amazes me when we win and get a good or even a fantastic result very few bother to post here saying positive things. Yet when we lose to a team who have been competing at the very top for the last number if years there is loads of posts of people writing players off. Criticising Koeman, wanting to get rid of a number of players because they had one bad game.

I'm the opposite. When we have what I call a blip I hold back from criticising. When we win I love it. Love coming on here to see positive this being said. Just a putty there is not more.

I'm just talking in general obviously. People are entitled to their opinion of course. I guess its a habit when we have had a barren spell for so long. Its hard to sink in at times that we are actually making real progress. Proper steps to bring the club forward and competing with the elite again.

Not there yet but I for one am certainly enjoying the prospect of what the future holds. Onwards and upwards. Good win today. The ship is truly very steady and ready to sail into the good times. Let's all enjoy the ride. There will be a few pumps along the way but the journey will be epic. I can feel it in my bones.

3.) 11 Mar 2017 21:02:16
Hi NBTB my sentiments exactly mate, we are a great club and have been in the doldrums for far too long, i think the team on the whole played really well today and one of the team I would single out for special praise was Jags not once did any of the West Brom team get in behind him, a real solid perforformance also Ross was very good, we are now playing well under R K and yes there will be blips along the way but the signs are good, at last all of us Evertonians have something wonderful happening at Goodison welcome to the ride cheers mate GuernseyBlue.

4.) 12 Mar 2017 07:25:10
I am rapt we played so well, but let's be honest WBA were woeful. I still think Barry is handy, but not when we are playing teams who dominate us with possession. Last week perfect example was terrible. Now with Baines injured, surely we are not going to play Funes Mori at Left Back. Btw while m on here, where are all the Barkley clowns. Where are all the boo boys and all those who slagged him and wanted to get rid of him. Where are you all now. The boy has made you all look like fools. Aussie Toffee never doubted him.

{Ed025's Note - i cant believe pulis aussie, he said they were always in the game? but for me we absolutely battered them, on the ross thing he has really come of age these last couple of months ronnie has worked wonders with him, he needed that kick up the arse he got from him and im made up for the lad and hope he can break into that england squad again as he really deserves it mate..

5.) 12 Mar 2017 09:41:36
Is that directed at me NBTB? I never said they would catch us? I said it was a 6 pointer. and we got the gap that allows us a slip up. but not too many.

6.) 12 Mar 2017 12:42:13
Good posts guys. Great win and clean sheet, it is inevitable that we are going to lose games this season and the spurs game we deserved to lose, the game we lost before that against the reds we deserved a draw but all in all a very good run of games.

I said it before if we had managed 2 or 3 wins out of that bad run of 10 or so games we would be in the mix for top 4 spot. If we finish 7th 6th or 5th this season it will be an amazing turnaround considering the last 2 seasons and the state of the team Koeman was given.

7.) 12 Mar 2017 12:52:41
I agree Funes Mori isn't the answer to covering Baines while injured but to be fair to the guy I didn't think he did much wrong when he came on and I wasn't having a heart attack whenever they attacked down that side unlike when he's at centre back.

8.) 12 Mar 2017 12:53:10
Yes Degsy, its directed at you seeing I said Degsy. A week or so ago you were very concerned that they might catch us. Simply asking, what you think the chances are now?

We can't afford to slip up surely. Imho Koeman won't allow it to happen. There probably will be small blips here and there but no major slip up's I'd imagine. We have some fought games with the top teams coming up. But with every game Koeman is improving things. Not be long until we will truly be competing with them all.

9.) 12 Mar 2017 16:18:50
Maybe NBTB. As in competing with the top soon. I don't thing West Brom have got the team to catch us though. 7 points with only 10 games left is probably too much. Plus our goal difference is far superior. So they need to win 3 more games than us and looking at our run in, we should win a few. But I would have been concerned if we had lost to them. I was actually very surprised at how easy they rolled over. Plus I was really surprised with the team selection. But the manager knows who is in form in training and we all are so easy at writing players off. In the last 12 months I have heard the following players being in quotes on this very web-page as being past it and/ or no longer good enough: Barry, Jags, Baines, Coleman, Mirallas, Barkley and Osman. (sorry couldn't resist that last one) . but as you know, all 6 featured yesterday. 3 of them were favourites for man of the match too. shows what we supporters know.

10.) 12 Mar 2017 16:47:56
This is new ground to us all NBTB we are all used to us having good runs only to throw it all away, and I think that's what Degsy was hinting at. ( Although I may be wrong) The proof is in the pudding, we now have the same number of points that we finished with last season, so now is the time for RK to really do his job.

This is the first time in many a season that we actually have something to fight for at this time of the year. In the poll at the beginning of the season I put us down for a 10th place finish ( or 11th not really 100% sure ) and I have to say I am so happy that I will be wrong on this one. let's just enjoy this trip into new territory and remember that next season will be better again.

11.) 12 Mar 2017 18:15:41
Imho Grumpy we have thrown nothing away. Smit666 makes good points above. We were unlucky not to get a draw against the Reds. Lost to Spuds who are second with joint best defense record in the premiership. All that since mid December when we beat Arsenal. Since then there isn't much if anything to give out about. We have had a fantastic run since mid December.

The point I'm making Grumpy is throwing things away is in the past. I have every faith in finishing strong for the rest of the season. Not sure where I said in the poll at the beginning of the season exactly but it was definitely between 6th, 7th and 8th.

Players are not past it. Getting back up or replacements for players who are reaching the end of their careers is not the same as saying they are past it or not good enough. Those six players you Degsy are not near finished. 5 of them I have never said get rid. Mirallas I have hinted to maybe sell if £15m - £20m is offered.

He's a winger, very close to 30 and let's face it is not having a tremendous season by any manner or means. Good player who was destroyed by Martinez who may never recover because he's not getting picked every game under Koeman either.

I knew exactly what Degsy meant a couple of weeks ago Grumpy when he was worried West Brom would catch us. At the time I said not a chance. Now the chances are even lower. If I remember correctly at the time I said there is more of a chance we'd climb the table positions than West Brom over taking us.

Now there is less chance of West Brom over taking us. Also looks like less of a chance we will climb the table either. 7th would be a big improvement for Koemans first year. We might with a bit of luck get higher. Can't see us go any lower. Time will tell I guess.

Totally agree Grumpy next season will be much better. Koeman won't need time to assess things and will be concentrating solely on improving the team and squad.

12.) 12 Mar 2017 20:26:33
Hi NBTB good post mate, a few good signings in the summer and we will be in good shape, GuernseyBlue.

13.) 12 Mar 2017 22:24:16
Need Barkley and Lukaku to sign the new contracts. Sign another couple of youngsters of the quality of Lookman and Calvert-Lewin. have another couple come through the youth system into 1st team regulars and a couple of experienced signings and then maybe break into really challenging for the top 4. Even a trophy or 2. Something that I never ever thought could happen 8 months ago.



27 Feb 2017 22:56:24
Imho there is more of a chance we will catch the Red other half than West Brom will catch us. 7th at least. Europe looks more likely after Utd wining yesterday also. Good times are only starting :-)

1.) 28 Feb 2017 07:46:48
Not sure I agree with all of that. I think the reds are only a couple of players from having a really good side (hate to admit it) . West Brom also have a slightly better run in than we do. So I think it is touch and go. The one bit I agree 100% with you is that I am now looking forwards. I also said a few weeks ago that the WBA home game is a 6 pointer. even more so now.

2.) 28 Feb 2017 08:26:52
Time will tell Degsy.

3.) 28 Feb 2017 16:03:18
Agreed NBTB. But we were talking about this season. I think there is a time limit there?!?

4.) 28 Feb 2017 16:21:14
There is a time limit Degsy surely. We will all be wise in hindsight come May time. So to be more specific for ya. The time between now and May will tell, therefore time will tell. As in future tense Degsy. Doesn't matter if is only next week. The phrase time will tell could still be used. I don't quite get what you mean with the time limit.

5.) 28 Feb 2017 17:29:23
I just meant that better things are afoot. but for this season we will see what happens. I guess it looked like I was contradicting you which I was not. just saying that this season will be what it will, but better things can now be hoped for longer term. phew what a load of waffle!

6.) 28 Feb 2017 19:13:59
Problem with written communication Degsy. Easy to misinterpret. Of course expect things gets better as time goes on.



11 Feb 2017 16:57:33
Decent result today. Hard place to go and get a win. Both keepers played very well. 8 games unbeaten. Haven't lost since mid December in premiership. Overall improving loads.

1.) 11 Feb 2017 17:16:09
Agree mate, It's a fair result for both teams. The weather made it tough conditions. We had two or three really good chances to score.

2.) 11 Feb 2017 18:30:14
could of won it if Lookman had stuck even one of his chances away. But that's football. Overall the point picked up against a boro team who don't score many and are pretty solid at the back at home is a decent point and keeps the unbeaten run going. long may it continue.

3.) 11 Feb 2017 19:44:29
Robles kept us in it. Starting to look a good keeper now.



07 Feb 2017 14:10:10
I posted on rumour page why would you listen to Martinez about our defense. I didn't want to comment any more on it but I can't resist myself. Here's a few things about Martinez as manager and defense.

When he took over at Wigan they conceded 45 goals the previous season. What did the concede in his first season in charge? Almost double that 79! Good crack at breaking the record held by Derby with 89 goals conceded in the premiership.

The following 2 season's seen Martinez Wigan concede 61 and 62 I think it will was. Then in his third and final season when the were relegated they conceded 73. From 45 goals when he took over to that. In those 4 years he did manage to break a record. Most goals conceded away from home in the premiership with 55 goals.

He then has the nerve to come out and criticise our defense which imho is the most improved defense this season. Next season I imagine it to be even better when Koeman gets more of his ideas and methods across. Which probably includes defending set pieces.

It really shows how deluded he was and how lucky we were after getting rid of him. He might have some sort of an argument about his attacking play. But his defense always was one of the most diabolical I've seen any managers.

His first season everyone knows why the defense was solid. The second and third year he was at Everton showed his undoubted neglect and nonexistent knowledge of defense.

Koeman is a different story. Very impressed with how he has conducted our defense this season. The best thing is it will only get better. He is after all only here 6 months after the shambles that defenseless manager left behind him.

1.) 07 Feb 2017 17:11:18
Brilliant post NBTB. The man is a complete lemon. It all sounded like sour grapes to me. He failed to mention that we have the 4th best defence in the league!

Listening to him talk was like someone scratching nails down a blackboard.

2.) 07 Feb 2017 17:11:43
Thanks for this-just shows that sometimes statistics don't lie. I share your faith in Ronald Koeman. I have every confidence that he will improve the whole team's performance. After all "defence" is not just about the back four (or five! ) .

3.) 07 Feb 2017 17:31:13
NBTB that is amazing info. but mate, you have wayyyyyy too much time on your hands! Joking aside, I remember Bill Kenright saying "how positive our manager is". and me thinking "thats all well and good, but I hope he is still positive in a year or too if things go wrong! " Unfortunately, as we all know, things went very wrong. But, the past is the past and I think we all know how perilously close we were to the ruination of our great club. The standard of recent signings has been infinitely superior overall. but I will still say thank you to RM for the signing of Lukaku and even Barry and Robles/ McCarthy and possibly Besic. So even though I agree totally with what you say, there were good things he did.

{Ed025's Note - yeah..including leaving degs.. :)

4.) 07 Feb 2017 19:09:45
The irony is he's talked himself into the Belgium job with a world class squad. Even he may succeed there.

5.) 07 Feb 2017 19:55:18
Too much time on my hands. Not really Degsy. More like i make really bad choices about what I spend my time at. It just got up my nose. Talk about hypocrites!

Your last line Degsy has a certain air of sarcasm to it Degsy!? After all we had plenty of debates about that exact thing. You sound exactly like I did at the start of them debates when talking about Martinez :-)

Lennon didn't exactly set Everton a light but can't really say he was a bad signing. Mori is decent also. Holgate, Galloway. They are the ones that were ok to good along with the players you mentioned. As for the rest? Well, let's just say we are better not mentioning them at all.

6.) 07 Feb 2017 20:18:52
Degsy, you say he did some good things, the best thing he did was to get himself sacked.

7.) 07 Feb 2017 22:42:58
I thought you might point those little things out NBTB. But no I wasnt being sarcastic. perhaps I just started listening to your side of the view? Respecting your points!

8.) 08 Feb 2017 08:32:32
As they say Degsy the truth is probably somewhere in the middle.




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16 Mar 2017 03:48:42

Do wish Rom well IF he leaves. We will get bigger, stronger, faster, quicker and better without him. I have no doubt we will find an alternative solution.



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01 Mar 2017 22:59:23
Aldo I agree with Original AJ and Ed025's comments above, I am coming with it from a positive point of few. I would love to see him come back. Not solely just to see him back. I believe he could do a job for us.

Not a starter every game but a valuable player none the less. No doubt about it, he is not the player he used to be. But many players get a lift when they change clubs. Even late on in their career. Look at Barry he has been tremendous for us. The change helped him.

Imagine the lift Rooney would get coming back to his boyhood team. He'd be reborn. His experience and contribution to the club would be invaluable and we would be stupid to turn him down imho.

Not much to lose, if anything, and plenty to gain if you ask me. Rooney is still only 31 but started at 16. I know Barry was a similar age starting and is still going at 35 but Rooney had a lot more games than Barry to contend with. Both at club and country. Also the way Rooney played had to of took a lot out of him. This I also believe.

Still a return to Goodison and he'll get butterflies in his stomach again. We would be the ones to benefit imho. Koeman seems interested. That suits me. He definitely knows what he wants. Even Walsh came out and said he would come if it can be made happen.



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28 Feb 2017 11:17:44
Wrote a similar post on banter page Southern Toffee. Could very well happen. We still do have a good few games against the top 6. Think City is the only one we don't have to play. Then the likes of Hull who will be playing for there lives.

Still I'm hopeful like you and think we are in with a good shout to catch our neighbour's. They are slipping the last couple of months. Where as we are strengthening. No need to fear anyone anymore imho.

Would be sweet to get revenge on Chelsea after the last game. Only game this season where we were very bad imo. Can't see West Brom catching us. 7th at worst for me at the moment. As we all know that could change very easily. Probably will a number of times over the next dozen games.



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09 Feb 2017 09:17:29
Jeers for that Blue Tommy. Blue76 is entitled to his opinion. I've been called a lot worse than a waffler so it doesn't bother me at all. Agree with your post.



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08 Feb 2017 20:25:21
Selective reading more like.




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19 Mar 2017 09:12:40
I wouldn't get excited over him just yet but funnily enough I agree with Aussie Toffee. I thought he had a good game and showed brilliant potential for the future. 24 still very young for a centre half.

{Ed025's Note - i cant say i have seen enough of him to form an opinion NBTB..



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16 Mar 2017 03:45:42
Good post GuernseyBlue!



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16 Mar 2017 03:43:10
You started off that post so well Kingo78 about Rom. Then it went downhill. Niasse will have to play like Messi for the rest of the season before Koeman would even consider taking him back.

Seems he has his mind made up about him. He had first hand access to seeing him in training. Koeman is no fool.

I'm not putting down Niasse. I'm delighted for him. Hope he scores another 10 before the end of the season.



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16 Mar 2017 03:38:33
P. S. not caught up in hype.



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16 Mar 2017 00:29:08
Lukaku has laid no platform for Everton. I think you'll find its the other way around.

Anyway, I'm caught up in the hype. Whenever he goes is when I believe he is going. Media is a circus.