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30 Mar 2017 08:19:34
Hi Ed, any news on potential outgoings this summer. Namely Cleverly, Niasse, McGeady etc.

Thank you in advance.

{Ed002's Note - Hull have a cheapish option to buy Niasse at the end of his loan so we will see at the end of teh season. Lukaku will look to move on to achieve his goal of playing football at the highest level - Everton are at fault for screwing up the contract situation. Spurs interest in Ross Barkley has waned - we need to see if anyone pushes for him. Tom Cleverley has both Newcastle and Watford interested and Milan, subject to resolving another issue, want to make the loan of Gerard Deulofeu permanent.}


1.) 31 Mar 2017 11:00:00
Cheapish? I read a report that it was a £10m option so is that what represents cheapish?


2.) 01 Apr 2017 03:44:07
Cleverly has gone previous reports quoted 9 million which is a profit since we got him on a Free. Niasse is also in 8-10 million apparently. How did Everton screw up contract negotiations?
Ross was never likely to move I believe his agents are stirring the pot to get a better ideal, he loves playing for the Blues. just my opinion.
Wellzee.


 

 

07 Feb 2017 11:14:34
Ed's, anyone, any sign of existing players signing new contracts? Namely Barkley and Robles who's contracts expire in less than 18 months. Lukaku has a little over 2 years left on his and there was talk of him signing a new one before Christmas. Albeit from his agent who may have been trying to ignite interest.

These are 3 players I'd certainly like to see tied down. I'm sure there are probably one or two others that I'm not aware of whose coming to the end of their contracts also.

{Ed001's Note - I don't know about Robles, but Barkley was keen to get a new contract and expected to sign one before the summer.}


1.) 07 Feb 2017 12:29:13
Thanks for that Ed001.

{Ed001's Note - welcome mate.}


2.) 07 Feb 2017 16:05:58
I was wondering the other day about Lukaku and his contract was said to be 99% done so did it get finalised and signed?

{Ed025's Note - not as far as i know ST, i heard it was close to being sorted but have had no confirmation yet mate..


3.) 07 Feb 2017 19:52:09
Ta muchly Ed.

{Ed025's Note - anytime mate..


4.) 08 Feb 2017 08:38:41
Read an article that Lukaku signed a contract last December earning over £100,000 a week and has a get out clause of £80m. It also said Chelsea are going to give that amount in the summer as Costa is going to China after the bust up with Conte.

What a load of ballony! As you say Ed025 he did not sign the contract last December. Shows how much the papers make up.


 

 

21 Jan 2017 23:49:48
There is no longer a top 6 in the premiership. There is a top 7 and we are in it. According to Pulis anyway. He's neutral so that's good enough for me.

Next I expect us to be a major force within that top 7. Going to be a good summer.


 

 

10 Jan 2017 22:48:10
Ed002 any info on the future of some players that possibly might be leaving Everton. Namely Gibson, Cleverly, McCarthy and the 2 that there are rumours about Niasse and Kone. Apparently Hull and QPR are their destinations.

Just wondering does it look like any leaving us this month? Happy with the way the incomings are developing. If we get MS it will be a good window even if its stopped at that.

{Ed002's Note - Niasse will almost certainly go to Hull. McCarthy interests Celtic and Crystal Palace with West Brom and Newcastle United probably out-muscled in their interest.}


1.) 11 Jan 2017 07:06:17
Niasse deal to hull almost done shame it's only on loan, But BBC report Scheiderlin deal done


2.) 11 Jan 2017 07:46:06
Thank you Ed002. I take it there is no real developments happening at the moment for anyone else.

{Ed002's Note - I have explained what I know.}


 

 

22 Jun 2016 23:24:26
Ed, any truth to Everton agreeing release clause for Sneijder? Seen some reports of £5.6m fee agreed.

Also what's the story with financial fair play? Technically are we allowed to have a net spend of the reported £100m we are supposed to be spending this summer.

{Ed002's Note - Southampton made an enquiry about Sneijder in December 2014 but didn't follow it up - although it substantiates that there has been interest from Kopeman in the past. Lazio have discussed him with Galatasaray but they have stepped back because of the wages being demanded. Their possible willingness to sell in the summer may be driven by a need to reduce wages rather than any transfer fee as he is still seen as an asset by the club - but the club has a European ban to deal with. Forget anything about any release clause. I am not aware of any firm interest from Everton at this time but it doesn't mean that there isn't.

The additional income is in next season's budget (starting July 1) and comes from the additional television money. If there is an issue it might be wages rather than transfer fees.}


1.) 23 Jun 2016 01:56:12
Thanks, Ed002.

{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}


2.) 23 Jun 2016 09:08:01
Thank you Ed002.

{Ed002's Note - No problem.}


 

 

 

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21 May 2017 18:00:56
I'd like to say how delighted I am with how much we have improved this season.

Scored 3 more goals, let in 11 less goals and got 14 more points! That is an improvement. Well done Koeman, Walsh and co. If we improve by the same next year we all know where we will be.

Strange season this. Arsenal got more points this season than last season. Finished second last year and 5th this year. Just thought I'd throw that in there.

Anyway future is bright. A lot brighter than it was last season.


1.) 21 May 2017 18:13:44
Good post NBTB. I guess last year Chelsea, Liverpool and man who were off their game. Normality resumed this season. I do think though with the right signings we have a chance of finishing higher than Arsenal, Man who and maybe even spurs with them moving to Wembley. Who knows but very promising season ahead.


2.) 21 May 2017 18:40:17
Great post NBTB, especially the Arsenal stat. I am happy we have stopped the slide. You of all people know I was sceptical after the Martinez fiasco. However. If we end up 6th next season and progress in the cups I will be delighted. We need to secure which players we have and want to hold and replace any who are leaving. re-evaluate the kids and see which ones are ready to make the step up. Then it is as simple as how we perform. But yes the future is 10 times better than it was.


3.) 22 May 2017 09:52:24
I'm my humble opinion, everton need to not only concentrate on upfront but in defence, i would try and get Gibson and smalling, I no smalling can be abit hit or miss, but I think with koeman being a defender he could really make him in to a great defender and with his extra height good for corners and attack, plus I like the thought of the city lad but I think Wilshire would be a cracking addition, when playing with good players he can be a fantastic player and hasn't been that injury prone this season.


 

 

11 May 2017 11:13:25
Good bit of business tying Mirallas down to a contract. With plenty of outgoings inevitable this summer its brilliant news for the club.

Even though I have been critical of Mirallas on occasion its good for club. I expected big things from him when he came. For me he hasn't completely lived up to them. Hope he does over the coming years.

There is plenty other players I'd see go than him. Will be crucial for us to have decent size squad with Europe next season.


1.) 11 May 2017 13:28:40
After RKs press conference it seems that he's had enough of Barkley not signing his new deal yet. He has 1 week to sign or be sold. Good enough too.

He also didn't seem all too bothered by it either. Obviously has plans in place should he decide to go.

My own opinion is I'm a little disappointed that he hasn't made up his mind. Should be more decisive and let everyone know and plan for the future. Although I'm pretty sure that plans are already afoot. With or without his decision.


2.) 11 May 2017 15:00:53
I honestly wouldn't be too upset if he left, on his day he's a world beater but those days are too few and far between. If we could do a deal on sigurdsson to replace him I'd be very happy. Much more consistent performer, wish we had the money to buy him when he left Spurs.


3.) 11 May 2017 16:40:28
With Europe next year imo we need as much talented players as we can. There will more than likely be a good few players coming in as it is. No need to replace Mirallas now. Good players are hard to come by.

I agree he is not consistent but it would not be easy to replace him with as good or better player than he is.

{Ed025's Note - that would depend on a couple of things for me NBTB, if he is committed to the club even though he may not be a regular starter, and how much would we get for him to purchase a replacement mate..


4.) 11 May 2017 18:41:04
Exactly Ed025. Imho he is worth more to us than selling. He's 30 this year. Could we expect anymore than £10m? I doubt it. Might not even get that.

I think he is committed. If / when he signs I guess that's a commitment in itself as he will more than likely finish his career at Everton. I expected big things when he came because he showed good promise. For some reason it didn't take off. Maybe next season.

{Ed025's Note - i keep saying that though NBTB, he has oodles of talent i think but lacks application..will the real kevin mirallas please stand up..


 

 

05 May 2017 15:04:14
Coleman ya absolute legend! Now there is a top player not afraid to commit his future to Everton.


1.) 05 May 2017 18:21:26
Class move from your club as well, the lad needs support and that's what he's got, I suppose many would have waited to see how well he recovers. Nice one.


2.) 05 May 2017 19:31:08
Good shout that NBTB top top player, GuernseyBlue.


 

 

04 Apr 2017 23:02:39
Koemans fault we lost 2 points? Really? I didn't agree with some of his decisions but for me the blame is totally with Williams for a moment of madness. He played well but why did he do that with Robles behind him? Panic stations as far as I can see.

It wasn't Koemans fault that happened. We were unlucky. Koeman had the game won had Williams just left that ball for Robles to save.

All Lukaku had to do was pass to Kev and Barkley for goals. Koeman doesn't deserve any blame for me. Our defense has improved 10 fold since last season. Had Martinez still of been here we would of gotten rail roaded tonight.


1.) 04 Apr 2017 23:37:59
NBTB, I think it was last man panic, if Robles had saved the pen he would have been exonerated! 4 mins added time? Where from?
But managers subs put us under pressure we conceded our battle in the game at that point sat back to defend!


2.) 04 Apr 2017 23:37:12
Well said NBTB Fully agree with you. Good catching up with you again in live chat.


3.) 04 Apr 2017 23:47:02
Ultimately I agree but to be a devils advocate. wouldn't a stronger number 1 have screamed for Williams that it was the keepers ball? Shame as the 3 points would have made things interesting. Think a resurgent Leicester will be very tough for us now. Our ranks are depleted even though it's great that we have a conveyor belt of kids stepping up. Maybe too soon and the games are too important for the forced appearances for these young lads. Great experience for next season though.

Next season holds a lot of optimism. Lukaku situation is becoming more of a win win for us. Either we off load a player for a ridiculous amount of cash or he realises that the "big teams" will have been unimpressed with his recent performances and will not bid. He stays at a club that he suits and he continues to be a 20 goal a season striker for us. Hopefully a few more senior players will arrive, with a little more quality than we currently have. Unfortunately every other team is going to improve next year.

After the last 2 poor final finishing position in the league, this year has been an improvement. Perhaps we can push on next year and get closer to the top 4? I'm sure that Pep will get city in much better shape. Jose too. Klopp undoubtedly will also improve. Fingers crossed Barcelona or Real will turn Pochettino and damage spurs. And hopefully Arsenal will continue to slide. 5th next year would be an achievement but I can only dream of a top 4 finish.

Our defence is now in a mess with the Williams ban. Think our run in is going to be further hampered by the availability of players, let alone the fact we are running out of games faster than the teams above us,
Oh well. it could have been fantasy stuff if we had got 6 points, even the 4 Koeman expected. 1 point feels like it's over for us now. Let's just hope we don't slide bellow WBA. That would be a disaster.


4.) 05 Apr 2017 00:15:08
That had crossed my mind Blue76. Robles should have shouted at Williams but at the same time I guess he never dreamed Williams would do what he did.


5.) 05 Apr 2017 01:06:16
On the plus side jagielka is reborn. To blame Williams is a little harsh. He wasn't to know if Robles was going to save that and if he, d left it we would all be slating him. A defenders instinct is to block the ball. We need a better keeper, Robles has done well but against top teams his all round game is not good enough. I do have to admit 4 minutes was too much even for old Trafford.


6.) 05 Apr 2017 06:55:14
Bad subs from RK. Robles is a quiet keeper does not command in the box so did he tell Williams he had it covered as for Lukaku what's he got to moan about if he had scored or passed whe other people could have scored then the pen wouldn't of mattered.

{Ed025's Note - robles was not getting to the shaw shot AB but i agree we could have had it sewn up by then, we rode our luck at times but it was certainly better than the debacle of saturday even though the substitutions baffled me mate..


7.) 05 Apr 2017 09:27:57
Robles was going in the opposite direction to the deflected shot there was very little chance he would save that Williams actually looked like he was trying to head the ball but it did hit his arm and was a penalty to blame either is wrong in my opinion. RK subs didn't help but neither did some of the poor play it seems that 1st touches for quite a few players are not great, maybe its something the team should work on as a whole. ZI offside goal was not offside so we got lucky with that on the whole a much better performance than the weekend yes we may have won the game but we could quite as easily have lost so i'll take the point thank you very much and hope to see the boys continue to collect 3 more on the weekend.


8.) 05 Apr 2017 21:18:08
Robles was not going in opposite direction. He was directly behind Williams and about to dive for the ball only Williams stopped it. I watched it a couple of times. He had it covered no doubt about that.


 

 

24 Mar 2017 21:14:40
Taylor the dirty b. Won't even show the replay it was that bad. Coleman gone for the rest of the season now.


1.) 24 Mar 2017 21:27:58
Bad news just replay it on Sky plus look like a suspected broken leg to me. Every time we are in or near the Derby something goes wrong to our players. Tonight Mccarthy and Coleman. Let hope there is no more. i think Liverpool have got a curse on us.


2.) 24 Mar 2017 21:53:37
That sure looks like a broken leg to me. We can expect him to be out for a long time. So sad for the lad.


 

 

 

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24 May 2017 10:45:30
Lescott and Gravesen is true have won medals. Were they a success with their clubs? I think not. Just because they got medals doesn't necessarily mean they were a big success when they moved. Some will think they were. That's fair enough.

The way I look at it both clubs that they both went to couldn't wait to get rid if them when there one and only contracts ran out. Speaks volumes to me when their new clubs did not off them new contracts to keep them.

Fellaini isn't exactly adored by Utd fans. Success? I guess he's a work in progress. Hope he does win tonight. All 3 were terrific at Everton. Imho all 3 even though won or will win medals were not a success with their clubs.


 

 

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23 May 2017 14:08:29
Handful? Rooney and maybe Arteta. Who else had success after leaving? Don't think Mustafi qualifies in this argument.


 

 

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23 May 2017 07:41:32
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Francis Jeffers.


 

 

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13 May 2017 22:55:14
Ed025 what are the plans if any for Holgate next season? If you are aware of any.

Looking for back up in right back means what exactly for Holgate? Moved to centre back?

I have been very impressed with him this season. Imho he is not getting the credit he should be getting. I hope to god he gets a proper chance next season. I know long term he is seen as a centre back. Would love to see him given a chance there next season.

Personally I'd use him along with Williams and Jags. Mori also for that position. I know for different reasons none of these are seen as top class centre halves at the moment. 2 on the wane, one only starting and the other not convincing everybody as yet. Out of these four we are bound to get at least one good centre along with hopefully a signing of a top centre halve.

Imho that would leave us well covered in that position. With Europe we will need those players imo but one additional signing in this position would be enough for me. Would hate to see Holgate disappear into a squad or second team player. He deserves far more in my eyes. For all I know Koeman might rate him highly either.

{Ed025's Note - holgate is seen as a centre back NBTB but is filling in at the moment and for me doing a very good job, he is well thought of by koeman and long term he will become our centre back well thats the plan but the guy is just happy to be part of things at the moment mate..


 

 

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13 May 2017 22:56:23
Hope so Ed025. An exciting player.


 

 

 

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25 May 2017 08:22:15
I never said any of these players were in any way bad players just that their success after leaving Everton was not achieved to where it would of been thought before they leave. I agree totally Arteta was class. He spent a long time at Arsenal. Lescott was a good defender at Everton. With City not so good. Fellaini like I said imho is underrated by the Utd supporters and was probably our best player while he was with Everton.

Who knows why Ross is leaving Everton? Say what you want about him at least he did / is keeping quiet about it. Not like Rom who is not shy about his personal ambitions.

If Ross and Rom do decide to go Everton will cope without them. Just like Everton always has when players leave.

The only true 100% success story after a player left Everton for success is Wayne Rooney. He done it all. Utd played him well because they wanted to keep and he broke all sorts of records. Arteta and Fellaini have some certain amount of individual success. As for the rest imho it is very limited.


 

 

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24 May 2017 21:28:26
Exactly New Blue in the U. The only players I'd like to see at Everton are players who want to play for Everton. Not mercenaries or self righteous players. For example Coleman, Baines and Jagielka.


 

 

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24 May 2017 21:16:34
I'm guessing this is referring to the thread on the rumours page coyb. I agree it is not 'our call' on what is success but everyone is entitlef to there opinion. Arteta at least stayed with Arsenal for a proper length of time. I did say his success was debatable. Meaning 50/ 50, 60/ 40, whatever.

But Lescott? Really? First of all when I talk about success I don't talk about an individual players bank balance. I talk about his performances on the pitch. Which imho is reflected on how much their club wants them to stay. City let Lescotts contract run down as far as I'm aware at the age of 31. A centre backs peak time of his career. Look Terry what age is he after winning the League. Now that is success.

Lescott was with City for 4 or 5 years and individually was he successful? We all know City were successful. Lescott imho was not one of the main players during his brief period at a successful City squad. He was a squad player. They didn't want to keep him. Would City say 'There is a big return on our investment. ' Imho No but its not for me to say.

Who wanted him after City didn't? WBA, Aston Villa and AEK in Greece, o yea and Sunderland. Desperate signing by them. 2 appearances all year. It has to be a record getting relegated 2 seasons in a row from the premiership but Lescott being successful managed that one. Last season after posting a picture of his motor at Villa. Showed how he measures success.

This season after 2 appearances with Sunderland. At 34 now still now too old to play on for a centre back where will he go? Who will have him. Distin played on until nearly 40. Imho he was a far better player.

Would Everton look at Lescott now and say 'Pity we didn't still have Lescott' I'd doubt it but its not for me to call.

Fellaini can't be properly seen as success or not imho. Not many Utd fans seem delighted he was bought. For the record imho he is undervalued by the Utd supporters but is appreciated by Mourinho. I hope he wins plenty of medals and is a success at Utd. Not like Djemba Djemba who probably has plenty of medals at a successful Utd squad. Was he a success?


 

 

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19 May 2017 22:27:11
I like that last post degsypulford2. Especially the last point about the top teams. Chelsea the only proper consistent team and I suppose Spuds weren't too far behind. As for the other 4 they weren't overly convincing. I expect us to close the gap a little more next season.


 

 

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15 May 2017 16:47:44
McCarthy would deserve it if he moved up and got idealised. He's similar to Roy Keane as he gives absolutely everything on the pitch. Thought he would be with Everton for a long time as he was young and started off so well when he came first. Best of luck to him wherever he goes. Player I always rated and liked.