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23 Apr 2019 20:09:13
Just had a quick look at the prizemoney for the Europa league this year - nothing to be sniffed at in my honest opinion as if you can get through the group stages and progress there are millions to be had - nothing compared to champions league but still a nice little pot of money to be had plus the possiability of winning a trophy and hopefully attract some better players to the club.

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1.) 23 Apr 2019 20:52:38
Is there an update on what would need to happen for 7th place in the PL getting a Europa League slot? Would it be a play in game during the middle of preseason like before?


2.) 23 Apr 2019 21:54:32
Not sure what you mean new blue?
If city win the FA cup, 7th gets a Europa league place and that would be 2 qualifiers (I think) before the group games.


3.) 23 Apr 2019 22:03:30
I think we need to finish 7th and need City to win the cup but would need the Ed’s to clarify.

{Ed002's Note - No. Runners up no longer qualify for Europa. Finishing 7th will do.}


4.) 23 Apr 2019 22:43:19
City must win FA Cup or else Watford and the top 6 get European slots. If we finish 7th and City win, we would get into the second qualifying round of Europa League. From there, we'd need to win 3 2-legged matches to make it to the group stage.


5.) 23 Apr 2019 22:53:14
Happy to finish 8th as not sure we have the squad to deal with Europe, look what happened last time.
Even if we have a good tranfare window we will still be a bit light I think.


6.) 23 Apr 2019 23:33:58
Well that reply just baffles me DC.
You have put so much emphasis on Silva doing better than Allardyce did last season. Are you Ok with him equalling his 8th and no better?
You also lambasted Silva because he doesn't blood the youth but a Europa league campaign would no doubt require some of our younger players to play.

I cannot believe anyone would rather us finish 8th than 7th. What it brings is far more rewarding for our club.
More money, attracting better players, more games for us fans to watch. It's the natural progression in the league.
Unless we are you going to finish in the top 4 next year then I'd rather us be in Europe and I would hope every other fan thinks the same.


7.) 23 Apr 2019 23:45:24
So what happens if city win the FA cup and the premier league
Spurs finish third and win the champions league
And say Arsenal finish fourth and win the europa league
Would that mean more European spots?


8.) 23 Apr 2019 23:52:42
Wow, that's a terrible way to look at things. We need to aspire to play and win in Europe every season, not look at past failures and assume they will repeat. And, it's not like we got relegated last time; we finished mid-table, just like all the other recent years. This team and fanbase need to dream bigger. We have the pocketbooks to compete and hopefully have some guys in place now to properly yield that. If you don't want to win in Europe, what do you want? 8th place every year? That's incredible.


9.) 24 Apr 2019 14:37:31
SA. The way i understand it, and one of the Eds may be able to correct me if I've got it wrong.
We have our full quota of Champs league places (4) if Spurs win it, we still only get our quota (4) . The winner always gets a place so if Spurs weren't in the top 4 they would take the place of the 4th placed team.
4th would then get a europa slot.
Europa is the same (2) plus (1) for winning the FA CUP. If a team wins the FA CUP that already has a place then the plus (1) goes to the 7th best team.

i think that is correct, although it hasn't always been that way i don't think.

{Ed001's Note - the maximum is 5, if the winner of the CL finishes outside of the top 4.}


10.) 24 Apr 2019 14:53:09
so what would happen if arsenal or chelsea win europa as well.


11.) 24 Apr 2019 18:20:55
I heard it could be 5, lot of ifs and buts though.


12.) 24 Apr 2019 19:26:37
Smitt is correct. If the winner finishes outside the top 4 the 4th place team will go into europa league. This rule was made when Everton came fourth and Liverpool were given a place despite finishing behind Everton. Then the laws were changed to ensure no repeat.

But a fifth spot can be gained only if a team outside the top 4 wins the europa league therefore winning a place in the champions league.


13.) 24 Apr 2019 21:06:08
To add on to what others have already said, in no scenario do more than 7 get into Europe. In the case that 5 go to UCL, only 2 would get into Europa.

The strangest scenario is if (i) Spurs win CL but finish outside the top 4 in the league, and (ii) Chelsea or Arsenal win Europa but finish outside the top 4 in the league. In this case, since a max of 5 can go to the UCL, the top 3 plus Spurs and Europa winners would get into UCL next year, and the 4th place team would go to Europa along with either Watford or the 7th place team.


14.) 25 Apr 2019 12:15:09
What I said had nothing to do with Silva, some our obsessed with my opinion of the man, I was making a comment about playing in Europe next season that was all.
Also comparing him to Allerdyce over a season is sill as Sam was not here a season and this I also did not say.
Please read what I say and comment on that but do not decide what you think I think I comment on that.
As you lot seem to mention Silva I am not totally happy with him as you know but should be allowed another season as not good changing manager all the time. Saying this does mean I like the guy or am happy with him, most do agree with me I know.


15.) 25 Apr 2019 19:45:28
My comments DC were merely pointing out that earlier in the season you commented that Silva had to better Allardyces 8th place considering the money spent. You also said the other day that Silva had a black mark against him for not playing youngsters.
I would think that us getting into Europe would aid Silva in being able to play more youngsters.

Aside from that, it does baffle me that you wouldn't want your team playing in a top European competition. One that will bring so much to the club.
It just comes across as too negative for me.
If that's how you feel than that's fine i just don't see the logic of it.


16.) 25 Apr 2019 22:39:57
I stand by all those comments but thinking on Sam was not here a season, and we are in 9th today I believe, a lot can happen in three games.
I can understand why you feel that Europe is a good thing but I do not agree with you at this time.
My comments about young players is 100% valid I feel, ok so not allways a positive spin on things but just a realistic view as I see things.
I hope this time next year I will be wanting Silva to get a longer contract and you can say I told you so but I will not be holding my breath.


17.) 26 Apr 2019 06:55:01
I will never say I told you so DC because I have always said I would make my mind up about Silva at the end of the season. I am already sold though, I am loyal to everything Everton and Silva comes in that bracket.
All I hope for is that you have a brighter outlook about Everton sooner than later.


18.) 26 Apr 2019 12:58:17
I agree with you smit, I don't understand how anyone cannot. Cementing our spot as best of the rest, playing in europe when the FA cup winner allows us and good cup runs/ wins is our best realistic target for the next couple of seasons.

Then push for the top 6 to turn into the top 7 unless another team fades away but I don't see that happening.


 

 

31 Jan 2019 20:43:53
Looks like beni going out on loan to Wigan - not sure why as I thought a run in the team would have done him a world of good.

goodison

{Ed025's Note - me too..


1.) 31 Jan 2019 20:58:33
Would’ve let Gueye go for £30m and have McCarthy/ Beni in there rest of the season. thought he looked promising last season.


2.) 31 Jan 2019 21:03:18
Needs a good run of competitive football to up his game. Hopefully he'll get that at Wigan.


3.) 01 Feb 2019 09:48:23
Better that he gets games under his belt in a league like the Championship that benched for our first team.


4.) 01 Feb 2019 11:42:44
It is clear that our so called manager will not give youth a chance, youngsters not getting on the subs bench either. The only ones used our Davies and Kenny and they have quite a bit of experience.
It is a bad manager who does not try to develop players within a club, yet another reason to get rid of Silva at the end of the season.
Benny has been cast aside as has Holgate it is so very sad.


5.) 01 Feb 2019 15:29:22
dark clouds I don't think you can say Silva doesn't give youth a chance Richarlson, DCL Lookman, Kenny, and Davis all under 22. He has a mixture of experience and youth in the team and on the bench most matches. The youngsters that have not been making the bench but look like they have the potential to succeed have been shipped out on loan for experience and game time. It makes perfect sense to me.


 

 

 

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29 Sep 2019 21:32:51
we are the perfect example of a club where money does not buy you greatness - I am assuming during the Moyes years many posters on here would of moaned about not having a top class striker and the boring style of play Moyes had - very solid and defensive.

Ever since money bags Moshiri has arrived hundreds of millions of pounds has been spent on players and we are still moaning about not having a top class striker and now the defense needs looked at.

I will be in the minority here but bring back the Moyes era anyday - solid results and a top 6-8 spot nearly guaranteed every year.

When Silva leaves the building ( hopefully soon) please take your mate Moshiri with you as from what I can see Moshiri and his advisors are going to eventually ruin and possible bankrupt this once great club.

goodison

1.) 29 Sep 2019 22:07:46
The 'Silvas's' of this footballing world are relatively speaking 2 a penny mate, The Moshiri's are not!

{Ed025's Note - the trouble with everton fans is that they are never happy, "we need a billionaire" we get one then do nothing but moan, how fickle can you get?..


2.) 29 Sep 2019 22:20:13
Agreed mate, much better to have no money, win no trophies and not beat any of the good teams away from home.

Oh and we wouldn't get top 8 under Moyes today.

{Ed025's Note - exactly swan..


3.) 29 Sep 2019 23:04:37
Bankruptcy? Really?


4.) 30 Sep 2019 06:17:44
Correct. Very much in the minority. We had a billionaire invested for years and never saw a penny. Now we have a generous one we complained his money is ineffective. The guy is trying and spending. What is wrong with that?


5.) 30 Sep 2019 09:04:40
We certainly would be top 8 under Moyes guaranteed.


6.) 30 Sep 2019 09:45:43
It was back in day BCT, he would struggle in the here and now and that's not guesswork as clubs in the PL seem to agree with me .


7.) 30 Sep 2019 09:48:59
in todays league, our moyes era would be nowhere near the top 10 never mind top 6, we'd be the level of burnley.


8.) 30 Sep 2019 10:30:11
BCT sorry but top 8 under Moyes guaranteed statement is just ridiculous. Nothing in life with the exception of death is guaranteed. IMO things will improve when we get all the players are fit and the new players settle in. can't understand all the pessimism this early in the season to be honest.


9.) 30 Sep 2019 14:01:21
Don't forget taxes as well.


 

 

02 Sep 2019 16:22:26
From what i have seen so far from the teams the top 2 look like they will fight it out again. positions from 3 - 8 are imho open - teams such as spurs / gooners/ mancs etc will play better over the year but I think we will have no better chance to grab a top 6 spot this year.

Jury is still out on Kean - plenty of potential but do we have someone on the coaching staff who can help nuture his ability?

goodison

1.) 02 Sep 2019 18:43:26
Big Dunc helped turn Lukaku into a £75m player. He might do a decent job.

{Ed025's Note - i dont know how much of an effect big dunc had on lukaku john, the guy could not trap a bag of cement mate..


2.) 02 Sep 2019 20:44:08
I can't argue with that Ed. One of the most frustrating players. 27 goals in his last season with us though, so if we can get Kean to that level I'll be chuffed.

{Ed025's Note - yeah i hear that john mate..


3.) 03 Sep 2019 02:57:03
Lukaku also couldn't jump to save his life.

I'm not sure Dunc has much influence at all tbh, I imagine they just have him around because the fans like him and he knows the club.

I think Kean will develop over time with the coaches we have. Just needs to learn to make his mind up before he gets the ball rather than wait because it gets taken off him.


4.) 02 Sep 2019 22:36:56
I agree with you on that one Ed, but from a different angle. Dunk couldn’t power past people and leave them in his wake, his goal scoring record (even in the p1ss easy Scottish league ) pales into insignificance compared to a 26 year old Rom. His discipline record is also a shambles compared to Rom, however he did win us a few Derbies when the team was pants so hey ho . - just my thoughts matey.


 

 

08 Aug 2019 19:22:35
I am still at the crossroads with this window - for me there was some potential talent bought but which is untried in this league ( Gomez - not included as we had him elast year )

Can we really expect a 19 year old to lead the line and score the goals needed - yes he may tuen out to be a worldbeater but this may take time which to be honest we are starting to run out off - can't see Moshiri or the club keep pumping money in every window without some reward - for me we have to break into top six as a minimum this year otherwise i would see it as another year of failure - thoughts?

goodison

1.) 08 Aug 2019 20:03:43
I think every year we close the gap on the top 6 is a success. We would have needed 13 extra points to have finished 6th last year. That's just over a third more points than we got, a big task (but not impossible) .

To say anything less than 6th is a failure is short sited imo.


2.) 08 Aug 2019 21:32:49
I have to agree. It's about getting nearer to the top 6 and being the team to take advantage if one of the top 6 have a meltdown.
Man u and Chelsea have young inexperienced managers so who knows how that will go.
Lampard is going to play the kids and Solsjaer has a bunch of egos to manage.


3.) 08 Aug 2019 21:43:14
If he is good enough to get games for Juventus that will do for me.


 

 

07 Aug 2019 14:04:47
I would love to know where the money is coming from if these rumours for Zaha, Iwobi etc are true - surely we must be getting close to braking FFP rules - seems to me some desperation deals now.

goodison

1.) 07 Aug 2019 15:26:44
It apparently reset in july 1st, cause of the cillesen neto swap deal allowed Barcelona to still be in ffp requirements as cillesen moved before the first and neto moved on the first of july. The money will just come out of our future transfer budgets.


2.) 07 Aug 2019 15:33:24
Moshiri found the Arteta money whilst searching the couch for a £50 note he dropped.


3.) 07 Aug 2019 17:35:35
Goodison, don't the Prem have their own loss limit £105 mill or so! Don't quote, I am not gospel.


4.) 07 Aug 2019 20:20:56
The prem ffp is 105 million over 3 seasons but a club who qualifies for Europe then has to contend with both the prem and UEFA FFP.

Everton are most likely using their budget from future windows which may limit future spending over the next few windows. Although this could change if they can offload players (selling them) lowering the wage bill or pick up other sponsorship deals. As ed says it's far too complicated for us to fully understand and the club's are most likely juggling costs over the FFP periods to make the signings they need.


 

 

05 May 2019 19:27:19
I see Lukaku was left out of United squad for today - looks like he could be on his way possibly during the summer. does anyone know if we have a clause in his transfer if that he is sold we get a % of the sell on fee or was the transfer deal a straight cash sale

Cheers.

goodison

1.) 05 May 2019 20:17:59
If we did have a clause the way he’s been playing we’d have to pay them!


2.) 05 May 2019 20:24:36
They (united) don’t play to his strengths. He is not a target man, he needs the ball played in front of him with pace. Once he’s got the ball under control (eventually) he is pretty dangerous. He has to be facing goal for him to hurt you and united aren't for some reason playing to that strength. Their problem. If he played for us again he would still get us 20+ goals a season. Standard.


3.) 05 May 2019 21:46:30
He was not fit today.


4.) 05 May 2019 22:55:24
I’m sure this won’t be popular, but I’d love Big Rom back at Everton.

{Ed025's Note - not too sure on that one swinners..


5.) 05 May 2019 23:00:02
I'd love him back too pal.
We would be a force with him up front. And dare I say it, Silva would improve him like he has the rest of the players.


6.) 06 May 2019 09:47:59
He never looks fit (Or arsed)


7.) 07 May 2019 01:03:29
Unfortunately he is one of those who think the world revolves around him. He was only ever interested in HIM. Yes he scores goals but the team spirit and work ethic is so much better without him. DCL is not yet the answer but the lad gives so much more to the team than Rom ever did. Big NO from me.


8.) 07 May 2019 10:13:19
DCL is definitely playing some very unselfish football but does need to add more goals to his game. As for Rom i would resign him when you play to his strengths he scores goals. To me he is a typical big fish little pond player, when everything revolves round him his confidence is high and he flourishes. So if we want a 20 goal striker that is proven in the prem and he is available and willing to come back then why not?


9.) 08 May 2019 17:55:52
Regardless of whether people want Rom at Everton or not, I really don't think he would come. Him and a lot at UTD team think they are much better than they actually are. He would only play for a Champions league club now imo.


 

 

 

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07 May 2019 12:07:59
Definately Zouma if a deal can be struck but I am 50/ 50 on Gomes - had some great games but a few quiet ones as well.

Not EFC related but what a strike by Kompany last night!

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29 Apr 2019 10:50:48
Look I am for giving the lad another year to see how he progresses but we really do need another striker ( Tosun also needs more opportunities IMHO ) who is going to score goals. yes he is young and time will tell but to say he has played only a handful of games is no excuse - looking at stats he has played 74 times for EFC - quite a few of the bench plus some time loaned out.

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27 Jan 2019 16:32:17
Lost faith ages ago with him -.

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26 Jan 2019 20:50:49
Moshiri and his cohorts thought they had found a young version of Mourinho who was going to work his magic as he did with Porto - time for Silva to go and time for this once great club to get their act together.

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21 Jan 2019 19:07:42
if you are talking about BK no complaints from me - saved us and brought great stability to the club - yes time to move on ( for BK that is ) perhaps but I personally feel he sought the wrong investment from the wrong person.

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