27 Jan 2022 17:32:54
Hi ed002
Could you give us your opinion on lampard becoming the Everton manager you will know more than most with your Chelsea connections. What do previous employers and players think of him? What style does he play? Will he suit Everton?

I’ll be honest when Rafa first got sacked he was linked early on but I didn’t want him at that point. Then it was between him and Rooney so I would want him over Rooney. For me I would take the risk on vitor pereira I don’t know why! Maybe because he’s got more experience I might be wrong about lampard but he’s never been down the bottom of the table in his managerial or playing career so it’s a totally different situation he’s been use to.

{Ed002's Note - Everton have dwindling options and those preferred by "advisors" are not the best solutions. Frank Lampardis an attractive option as he will bring academy players through and will talk back to the board and advisors (which may be his downfall). There is a huge issue in that I expect the fans would not make him welcome and that would make it too difficult for him to consider the job or stay in the job for any length of time. He would be a really good solution and could get everything back on tract and bring youngsters through, but I fear the toxic fan base may well still hold the club back if appointed.

1.) 27 Jan 2022
27 Jan 2022 20:08:23
To be honest Ed I’ve seen the majority of the Everton fans wanting frank at this moment in time. But I really
Do hope the owner is not trying to pick a manger to please the fan base. He would be better off picking a manager who they thinks right and when appointed tell the fans why they have chosen him and the plan going forward. The fans would hopefully get on board and see the direction then. The club is in turmoil because of the mistakes that have been made but the whole negativity and arguing between fans isn’t helping. You will always find a reason not to hire a manager to suit your agenda and vice versa. Just think having a dof that is allowed to do his job without others sticking their noses in would work wonders for the club. We need to be looking at young hungry players who want to make a name for themselves in the game which then we can sell on for profit. Use the Dortmund and a Madrid model to a extent.

{Ed002's Note - The trouble is that Everton are not an attractive option, could be used as a stepping stone, cannot attract coaches from the higher end, and have a toxic fan base that deface the stadium to ward off potential coaches before they are even offered jobs. The fan base are not seemingly interested in the progress of the club.}

2.) 27 Jan 2022
27 Jan 2022 20:14:26
Think most would get behind Lampard, Ed but completely get your point.

3.) 27 Jan 2022
27 Jan 2022 20:23:25
I don’t how it’s actually come to his Ed! I don’t know why anyone would deface the stadium another team had done it we would cause murder. As a fan base we need to stop thinking we can force the club into the decisions that we think is right. We should be in uproar about the footballing decisions ie no Dof in place Andalusia the back room staff that have left because of the Benitez appointment. We need a manger with thick sick and a lot of determination to succeed. I would of liked us to take a risk on Steve Cooper from Forest might be a tad early for him but seems to have all the attributes to go on to be heart manager but looks like he will go on to replace potter when he leaves Brighton in the not to distance future.

4.) 27 Jan 2022
27 Jan 2022 20:26:39
What do you really think about the fanbase Ed?

5.) 27 Jan 2022
27 Jan 2022 20:58:36
I agree with Eddy, the majority of us will welcome Frank. There is a very toxic element of support amongst us and while they are the minority, they tend to be a very vociferous few! Unfortunately, they are getting lots of press and attention which is casting bad light on all of us.

I had the pleasure of tuning into one of those Twitter “spaces” last night - dear god. “Lad, f@ckin, lad, f@ckin blah blah blah lad, know worra mean lad” seemed to be the general gist of the conversation from the people who’d phoned in. I do think it’s just the way things are now with the modern fans and they are extremely toxic.

I wasn’t keen on Lampard initially, but I’ve certainly warmed to the idea of him. Regardless of who comes in, they’ll have, as will the team, my complete support and I most definitely will not be spray painting, making signs out of bedsheets or phoning up somewhere pretending to be a football pundit who’s trying to out scouse my Crosby or Formby neighbours.

{Ed025's Note - im with you pierre mate..

6.) 27 Jan 2022
27 Jan 2022 21:13:34
I think the wannabe gangsters have turned into be wannabe hooligans. We just need to support the manager now. We can’t be having a negativity at matches players pick up on it so easy and while it might not be directed at them they still get negative vibe which will impact them I don’t card what anybody’s says if they are having a bad game they will think it’s aimed at them. They need confidence.

7.) 27 Jan 2022
27 Jan 2022 21:13:59
The toxic so-called fans are a minority and certainly nothing substantial as a base, but I do get Eds point. If identities are discovered they should be banned for life. I think Evertons relationship (lack of) with Chelsea is neutral, there should be no animosity toward Lampard. I admire hard work and Lampards reputation for such is well known. I hope the Mr Moshri and his 'Advisors' use commonsense.

8.) 27 Jan 2022
27 Jan 2022 21:33:21
Agree with both of you there Eddy and DFS.

Lampard was one of those players you couldn’t help admire - albeit through gritted teeth. He would always do us, a bit like Les Ferdinand, Teddy Sheringham etc - you knew they would stuff us and you hated them for it, but couldn’t help but acknowledge how good they were.

9.) 28 Jan 2022
27 Jan 2022 23:00:58
An Everton YouTube channel did a vote for who people wanted out of Pierra and lampard. They had over 7.5k votes and 95% of people said they would prefer lampard.

10.) 28 Jan 2022
28 Jan 2022 10:02:35
We’ve had so called “top managers” and that didn’t work. Time for a new approach. Give Frank ago.

{Ed025's Note - yeah why not latch?, and let him bring his own staff in because if its true that dunc is not interested then whats the point of him being there?, we need guys with ambition mate..

11.) 28 Jan 2022
28 Jan 2022 10:01:01
Ed002 I personally don't think the Everton fan based is toxic there are however some fans that are, which could be said about most clubs fans. The world is full of idiots about that don't think about the consequences of their actions.

{Ed002's Note - The fans cause huge problems at Everton for the owners, for potential coaches and for the players. They have unrealistic expectations and expect the owners to explain everything to them.}

12.) 28 Jan 2022
28 Jan 2022 11:33:14
Thanks for the reply ed002. Fair point regarding the last sentence ED. However I slightly disagree about the fans causing huge problems for the owners for me its more of a symptom of the owners/ management actions rather than a fan led issue. On the hole I think the majority of fans have been supportive of the management and players however, I think the Benitez appointment alienated a fair few in the fan base which has contributed the atmosphere at the moment. I do believe the majority fans will get behind both the new manager and the players and we will need to be positive with our support to get us up the table.

13.) 28 Jan 2022
28 Jan 2022 12:09:40
We have had 6 managers in 5 years or something daft, with all wanting to do something different with the club, different visions, so now we are left with 6 half finished projects. We need a manager to settle the ship for a couple of years, brings through young hungry players so we don't have to buy in the market, balance the books and then start again in 3 years once the stadium is built on buying name players again. We are a rubbish show at the moment. But I for one am glad Moshri is with us as we would be in a lot worse place if he decides he's had enough.
I also believe although he wouldn't be my first choice manager, I think Lampard is a decent option, he's young he's got something to prove, and he knows the premier League. And look at the names he pulled through Chelsea, the issue comes, do we have as good players in our acadamy as Chelsea had, I don't know, but the likes of Dobbin makes me hope we do.

People who graffiti the stadium are not fans, they are vandals and should be ashamed of themselves.

14.) 28 Jan 2022
28 Jan 2022 12:43:38
I agree with sa90.

I don't think we have particularly toxic fans, there are some but all clubs have them. A kopitee has just been found guilty of racially abusing an Everton player for example. Look at some of the stories about some Chelsea fans over the last few years, I could go on. All deplorable but a minority and all clubs have them and a quick Google search will show this.

Also I don't think we should use the word 'toxic' to describe people who protest unless the method is unreasonable (eg 'we know where you live', graffiti on the stadium) .

If fan disapproval has partly been responsible for getting rid of some managers who were going to take us down, as I think has been the case with Koeman, Martinez, Silva and Benitez at EFC and plenty of other managers at other PL clubs (eg Villa and Smith) then there's a lot to be said for it. Protest is a basic right and without it we would almost certainly have gone down a while ago.


A separate issue is what the majority of fans expect and whether they are unrealistic. I and the people I go to the match with all get behind the team whoever the manager is and yet we were all left gobsmacked by Benitez' appointment, not just for what he'd said about the club or who he'd prevously managed, important though that is, but because his recent record just wasn't that good. Then to get rid of the DoF and Digne just before sacking Benitez, is forehead-smacking. Again, I could go on.

I think what the vast majority of fans expect is for the club to be run in a professional way and I think that is perfectly reasonable and completely realistic.

15.) 28 Jan 2022
28 Jan 2022 18:17:26
Don't tar all Everton Supporters with the same brush. As oft said I moan and complain but on here not at the game. Those that boo and protest at the ground are a minority and to be fair not even noticed by the majority of us. Normally I hear about it on the way home from the media. If the owner and board take notice, then more fool them. Out of all the Managers that went I have to say Benitez had to go, one win in 14 games and no sign he was going to change.

{Ed001's Note - you must be deaf then as plenty of my friends and family constantly complain about the boo boys at Goodison. If you haven't heard them then you are the only person there who hasn't.}