04 Aug 2021 21:11:12
Let’s face it guys since Moshiri took over our club has gone backwards and before ye say it who is the new stadium going to benefit most?

1.) 04 Aug 2021
04 Aug 2021 21:21:46
Is it April 1st?
Club gone backwards 😂.

2.) 04 Aug 2021
04 Aug 2021 21:26:22
Explain how we have moved on ginger.

3.) 04 Aug 2021
04 Aug 2021 21:28:54
I don’t think there is any intention there though - not as if he’s done a Glazier and taken huge profits.
Very bad signings (Sandro, klasson, iwobi, Walcott, Kean, Williams, shniderlin, Delph) to name a few.

No progression of players from under 23s - I imagine we are one of the worst in league at bringing players through

Manager choices very poor - Silva / Allerdyce particular. Koeman looked good at Southampton

Not replacing Lakaku before selling him was very poor - not having a right back for 2 seasons just as bad

I think there is quality in our squad and I’m hoping Benitez kicks them up the arse as we should be doing much better with players we have - we were so slow last season

Overall I agree we have not progressed but I think Moshri not to blame. Brands is not untouchable here - why get Kean when he clearly didn’t fancy Everton. Why are we still needing a right back. Why is there no young players coming through. How come we have Allan, Decore, Delph, Gbamin and Davies (+ Besic and Beni until recently)
How come we haven’t learnt the bollasi, Walcott, Iwobi, Townsend lesson.

{Ed025's Note - i agree about brands sobs, great reputation but i have yet to be convinced mate..

4.) 04 Aug 2021
04 Aug 2021 21:53:06
I said it back at the time of his takeover I thought it odd that a new owner chose to have Walsh as his first major signing as a pose to a big name player thought it showed his intention for our club ie buying quality cheap and selling for profit.

5.) 04 Aug 2021
04 Aug 2021 22:28:57
Biggene do you genuinely think that’s why he brought in Walsh?

Did you not see it as a statement of intent in trying to replicate what Walsh did at Leicester with winning the league?

He brought Walsh in as he naively thought he could recreate the same success he had at Leicester.

6.) 04 Aug 2021
04 Aug 2021 22:41:46
very harsh biggene mosheri has put his money where his mouth is and has invested over last few years has any one ever considered shifting the blame on former managers just find it harsh if am honest he's done brilliant for us yeah okay maybe apppinter one or 2 dodgey managers in silva and also Sam but they had transfer budgets aswell as good just mentioned walsh at time was doing wonders for Leicester mahrez kante shrewd buys maybe more that I can't think of but new stadium on the horizon can't complain mate going to take time but we will get there one day.

7.) 04 Aug 2021
04 Aug 2021 22:52:56
I agree with that Dan.

8.) 04 Aug 2021
04 Aug 2021 23:36:10
Ah please can anyone actually explain who we are a better team since moshiri took us over. we are a joke it takes ed002 to remind us of that every now and again when we mention quality footballers we think we going to sign.

9.) 05 Aug 2021
04 Aug 2021 23:58:11
Sorry biggene no idea what you’re on about.

Are you saying Godfrey, Allan, doucore, Rodriguez are not quality players?

Without European football will struggle to recruit the so called top talent.

Even the geographical location of where we are will also prevent us signing certain players who would rather play in warmer climates or if come to pre her league would want to be in London.

Not sure why you think we’re a joke of a team - we’ve made some poor recruitment decisions but we’ve also made some really good ones.

If anyone thought when Moshiri came in we’d be competing with the top 6 then they were not realistic.

To be able to compete at the top end of the table it’ll take time - we almost did it last season but for Carlo.

Think the season ahead will be a decent one, finally got a manger that genuinely appears to want to make us compete - we haven’t had a manger like that for years - before anyone says Moyes I’d like to remind you of his knife to a gunfight mentality and his abysmal record against the top 6.

This season I reckon is when we should finally see some improvement - if you think joke of a club then would suggest finding another team to support.

10.) 05 Aug 2021
05 Aug 2021 00:59:55
Without our new owner, we really would be up the creek without a paddle.
He has put in massive investment, and yes he's made some costly errors, and for the moment they have come back to bit us, in that we are for the moment, hemed in by the ffp regulations.
So sell the big wage hangers on, if we can, but in a season they will be out of contract and gone.
Took Kloop 5 years to win the league for the first time in 30 years, so given his starting point I'm prepared to cut Race some slack.

11.) 05 Aug 2021
05 Aug 2021 01:51:02
I agree with Sobs. I don't believe for one minute that there have been any bad intentions by Moshiri. No one can question the investment he has put into the club and the support he has given every one of his many managers.

He is guilty though of having a club that is suffering from years of mismanagement and bad investment and he, as the owner/ major shareholder has to take responsibility for that.

He brought in the DOF structure but it has never worked as I don't think it has ever been clear whether Walsh/ Brands are in charge of recruitment or whether Martinez, Koeman, Silva, Allardyce, Ancelotti have made the decision. It's not just the signings though it's the wages we have been willing to pay. We have a wage bill fractionally below that of Spurs who have been regularly playing the Europe but twice the size or more of others trying to break into the top 6 such as Leicester, Wolves and now Aston Villa. Moshiri gambled by allowing these high wages that we could shatter the glass ceiling and get into Europe. The gamble failed for the last 5-6 years and now FFP is killing us and we are struggling to get rid of the top earners. Why did we sanction Mina at 135k per week when we could of signed another Godfrey at a third of his wages? Same with Gomes - why didn't we go for a Maddison or a Tielemans? Same for quite a few others. Sure, we've had a couple of very good signings but the bad signings far outweigh the good with their impact

We are mismanaged - Moshiri is the only one who can fix that but, whilst he has the money which he has willingly invested, he's not shown the football knowledge/ vision to manage the club and it's hurting us

Dan - Biggene is a genuine supporter of Everton Football Club and is airing his concerns. Just because you don't agree with him it does not give you the right to tell him to support another team and makes you look bad.

12.) 05 Aug 2021
05 Aug 2021 02:09:09
Since Moshiri came in, we've made mistakes but not gone backwards. Off the pitch, our income streams have improved and we have a new stadium in the making. This will benefit the local area and the city in general more than it will Moshiri.
The mistakes mentioned in other comments, such as the Walsh era, have cost him 500m quid!

13.) 05 Aug 2021
04 Aug 2021 23:08:56
Although the plan was to recreate the success at Leicester I think the step up from head of scouting to DOF was too big of a jump, Walsh should’ve been left as a talent spotter and someone else doing the negotiating fees contracts etc, could’ve worked out better
Having said that, Vlasic was a great find just not given time because we bought too many Number 10’s
Regards Brands…. I think there is still a lot to prove, however I also feel he’s been shackled, FFP restrictions now, poor contracts overpaying some players etc
Next 3 years will be when we see what his recruitment is like.

14.) 05 Aug 2021
04 Aug 2021 23:13:11
Yea let's bin him and stay at the old lady till she falls down. 😂.

15.) 05 Aug 2021
05 Aug 2021 03:23:10
He wanted Walsh (to replicate Leicester) but Walsh was promoted above his pay grade to DoF, that was the mistake.

16.) 05 Aug 2021
05 Aug 2021 05:03:55
We're all very quick to blame Walsh but who was in charge of the club when he was losing bluepotato's £500m

I know it was his money and there's a few on here that keep saying 'it's not our money' when players are bandied about but we are now beginning to realise that money matters

I love what Moshiri has been willing to invest into my club. I just wish he had spent it more wisely.

17.) 05 Aug 2021
05 Aug 2021 07:37:39
We may not be a better team since Moshiri became custodian of everton, but we are a much better club, and nobody can deny it, new stadiums wether they were in Walton Hall Park, Kirkby, Croxteth or the docklands were nothing but flights of fancy before he came on board, he has put plenty of money into trying to improve the team, ok the recruitment via Walsh, Brands and Moshiri's shady advisors has been mediocre at best, but the desire and intent to improve the club has always been there, but the truth is that its just so difficult to build a team that wins trophies, Man City have broken the rules multiple times, they had to, without being able to wantonly throw money at a club over 10 years or more, there is no chance of a club breaking up the elite, the rules are set up to stop it, Moshiri has tried like mad, upto this point unsuccessfully, but you can't knock the man for trying.

18.) 05 Aug 2021
05 Aug 2021 09:01:05
Great post bluedanny.

19.) 05 Aug 2021
05 Aug 2021 09:05:58
For all the people knocking Morhiri in my opinion your wrong.

20.) 05 Aug 2021
05 Aug 2021 10:34:31
Bw, it's not my 500m, although I wish it was! I'm not blaming the Walsh era entirely, it was just an example of a time when a lot of money was wasted. Moshiri has made mistakes but, by and large, he has improved the club. Hopefully, he has learned lessons along the way and they will never be repeated.
The new stadium is down to him and we can't accuse him of not backing managers, even if we are paying the price now.

21.) 05 Aug 2021
05 Aug 2021 11:13:19
Hi BP

I agree with a lot of what you are saying. I'm sure you wish the £500m was yours but you wouldn't be a happy bunny if it was now lost

Look - I'm not blaming Moshiri for trying ( I very grateful that he has) but when you look at what's been spent we've seen little or no improvement in the team

Walsh was replaced by Brands in May 2018. In August we brought in Mina at 135k per week, Gomes on a seasons loan which we made permanent a year later at 100+k wages. We also brought in Richarlison, Digne and Virginia -all good signings and at a lot less than the wages of Mina and Gomes. Bernard also came in on a free as he had run out his contract but on £140k a week. Who agreed the Mina deal, the Gomes deal? Both have never proved worth the wages we paid them. Bernard you could argue the wages were OK as he came on a free but he was never strong enough for the EPL

Later in Brands tenure we have had Delph, Iwobi and Kean. We should make money off Kean but what were we doing, who was responsible for buying and paying the wages we have for Delph and Iwobi?

Last year we have brought in Allan, Rodrigues and Dacoure. All fine players but couldn't we have bought the same quality at lower wages? We brought in Godfrey and look at how well he has done

The problem I struggle with is that no one seems to own the blame for this apparent lack of strategy in transfers and that's were your (sorry not yours) money has been lost

We have made great strides in EITC and on the new stadium but the name above our ground is Everton Football Club and I personally don't think we are doing a great job running that FOOTBALL CLUB.

22.) 05 Aug 2021
05 Aug 2021 12:07:45
BW, I agree with the fact that cash has been wasted, we can't deny that. I'm not sure if we can slate the owner over spending cash but it hasn't been spent wisely. Not just through Walsh but he has to shoulder some blame, how many number 10's did he lumber us with?
In all honesty, I didn't see the need for a DoF as I believe a manager should have final say in transfers etc. But that's just me, I prefer old school ways!
I do believe the infrastructure of the club has improved under moshiri and I think that will continue. The biggest thing we have to contend with is the wage bill and we seem to be getting that under control atm.
I think we're in a better financial position compared to this time last year but we've obviously still got a long way to go.
Let's hope Moshiri has taken something from the mistakes that have been made and that his strategy moving forwards will reflect that.

23.) 05 Aug 2021
05 Aug 2021 13:08:23
BP - At the end of the day we are all Evertonians and just want what is best for our club

I also have some doubts that the DOF model has, or is working. I think I would prefer a Chief Executive who decides the strategy going forward and ratifies all deals. To me it seems it is falling between 2 stools, the DOF and the manager and we are getting the worse rather than the best of both worlds

Let's hope we can move forward from here but our mistakes have made it harder because other teams are moving ahead of us whilst we try and put the ship on an even keel.

24.) 05 Aug 2021
05 Aug 2021 18:24:53
Too right, BW, we want nothing but the best for the club. We've tried with the splashing cash approach, now let's see how we get on with tightening our belts!
I'm taking no notice of what other clubs are doing tbh. I think it was gingerdan, that said in another post, that signings should be judged at the end of the season. I think that's a good way to look at it.

25.) 05 Aug 2021
05 Aug 2021 14:55:22
Agreed, BW, but it was always going to head this way in the end. It's wrong to blame just one person for the mismanagement of the financial side of things. Walsh, Moshiri, Brands and every manager we've had since FM took over, all have played a part. I think we should be happy that the owner wants to spend cash and move the club forwards, it's what we were crying out for.
Hopefully, we can get the wage bill right down and get back on the right side of ffp and then go again. As fans, we just have to be patient which is easier said than done.

26.) 06 Aug 2021
06 Aug 2021 01:37:49
It is what it is BP

The mistakes have happened and we need to continue recovering from them. I don't believe that's going to be either easy or quick and whilst we are doing it others are getting away or in front of us in the race for Europe

You are right though we are lucky to still have the commitment of Moshiri - I just hope he is learning quicker than he has in the past

NSNO COYB.

27.) 06 Aug 2021
06 Aug 2021 01:45:15
We’ve made numerous mistakes in the transfer market but it’s not for the want of trying on moshiris part.
We now appear to be making better signings.
We’ve got some very decent players.
We’ve increased our brand worldwide.
We’ve made better commercial partnerships.
We’ve got a better kit deal.
We’ve got a new stadium in the pipeline - which will benefit, club, team, fans and the city.
We’re moving in the right direction it’s just been a bumpy road.

Can you explain how we’ve gone backwards?