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08 Apr 2024 13:56:20
2 points deducted via the bobble.
1.) 08 Apr 2024 14:06:03
Great outcome if true.
2.) 08 Apr 2024 14:13:31
It's a bloody joke. Punished twice in the same season. Yes ED different periods blah blah. Going to be appealed, so reduced to slap on the wrist. Not fit for purpose.
3.) 08 Apr 2024 14:06:03
Great outcome if true.
4.) 08 Apr 2024 14:24:35
The club have made a statement they will appeal due to the inconsistency in punishment process.
5.) 08 Apr 2024 15:06:00
Could the appeal give a larger points deduction?
Was the Forrest one earlier in the season for this season or previous ones and could they face a further deduction?
6.) 08 Apr 2024 15:33:28
It not a great outcome by any stretch of the imagination its a complete and utter farce.
7.) 08 Apr 2024 15:36:11
No we won't get a larger deduction as the players for card appeals can. Hence why everyone thought Forest claim of no appeal was utterly baffling. We appeal 100% and hope to get 1 back. Seems the hinge is £18m against the loss revenue of sponsorship from you know who for £20m. let's try not to Ground hog day a few months ago and blindly set off the 02 as some of us have to re re re read the same cut and paste nonsense as per above already.
8.) 08 Apr 2024 15:48:33
Do agree with you SA it is a complete farce and shambles.
I was expecting more and so we're others, the levels of inconsistency is comical, but we know our fate now have few PTS gap and the game in hand, think need to move on and see what happens next season with ourselves and others.
9.) 08 Apr 2024 18:03:51
This is a huge problem that will not go away. We will be forced to sell our best players at discounted prices since all other teams know that we have to sell. If we don't get our finances in order next year will see further points deducted.
{Ed025's Note - well thats really cheered me up Mike...cheers mate.. :)
10.) 08 Apr 2024 20:41:22
Sorry Ed025 but we have to face the facts, we are in deep doo-doo! I wish that I could see the bright side like GB but at the moment the light at the end of the tunnel has gone out.
{Ed025's Note - sorry Mike i was being pedantic there mate, i think you are right, no i know you are right, im so disappointed with this club and what it has become that i sometimes mask that with an attempted bit of humour....it seems that im not very good at it.. :)
11.) 08 Apr 2024 20:44:28
Disgrace the way the club is being treated. wouldn't do it to any teams in the top 6? Getting punished twice in one season is outrageous.
{Ed025's Note - we have made a lot of mistakes at board level Grantham, and we did deserve sanctions, but this to me is blitzkrieg mate and it seems they wont stop until plucky old Everton are dismantled bit by bit mate, i do believe they have an agenda against us..
12.) 09 Apr 2024 17:02:04
Are the majority of cost due to the stadium? Will this all end when we move in?
I don't understand how Everton just hemorrhages money.
The majority of big earners are gone and the net spend over the past few years is extremely healthy. Or even with all that are the current wages just unsustainable? I don't see how it can be reduced significantly more and stay competitive in this league. Is Evertons income just extremely low compared to other pre teams? It is it all down to the stadium?
{Ed002's Note - it has built up with the stadium, the debt, the spending on transfers and the wages. It needs the ownership issue resolved as the first step.}
25 Feb 2024 23:27:55
Another rumour going around is that the owner of the New York Yankees ( Hal Steinbrenner) is also ready to step in and buy Moshiri out. Figure of £1 billion to buy shares clear debt, loans etc and squad investment.
He has a part share in AC Milan so football investment wouldn’t be a new deal.
Who knows what’s going to happen it’s all a big mess at the moment and either something is very wrong with 777’s investment or the premier league are being obstructive.
1.) 26 Feb 2024 01:11:32
If you think I hate the Red Sox and the Fenway group, the Yankees are a whole other level of vitriol from my part.
All said, I’ll accept Steinbrenner and is money and organization. Any links to that rumor?
2.) 26 Feb 2024 08:01:10
It was a RossAftbl on X, number of them seen a BMD ?♂️ not sure on strength but thought I’d pass it on.
3.) 26 Feb 2024 16:05:58
If true, our skies could be blue again Big C.
4.) 26 Feb 2024 20:36:38
Nothing wrong with the Yankees, the most successful baseball team, well run and make a lot of money. Can't see it happening unfortunately but if it did they would turn this club around to be well run, successful and most importantly much more pleasurable to watch.
5.) 26 Feb 2024 21:12:26
I would take that, would also take Arabs but not Saudi's, mind you it didn't bother Masters.
6.) 28 Feb 2024 10:37:14
Nought wrong with baseball. Once pulled a hammy playing rounders.
7.) 28 Feb 2024 14:03:54
Very popular sport around my wat HK, local sports shops are always sold out of bets, plenty of balls in stock though?.
8.) 31 Mar 2024 09:57:58
Big C if you maybe had got yanks in years ago your club would be on a solid footing instead you took a man who had no idea of running a football club and spent his or someone elses money hand over fist 777 are yanks but have investers from around the world and owe money to a number of people and the teams they are involved with complain they take money out of club but put nothing back . FSG have made mistakes but on the whole they have been a god send to Liverpool fc.
31 Jan 2024 21:08:26
The bobble saying we’ve rejected a bid for Godfrey from AC Milan.
1.) 31 Jan 2024 21:59:15
Reading Sheff Utd want Holgate. Happy days if that’s true. Hoping for a loan to come in, preferably a playmaker, when Doucoure isn’t in that role we can’t score and I can’t see us bringing in another striker after buying Beto.
2.) 31 Jan 2024 22:33:39
Gibbo, hopefully we haven't lost the receipt for Beto. 25m is looking like we've had our pants pulled down yet again.
3.) 01 Feb 2024 07:26:49
Yeah, I like the guy, he clearly cares a lot (especially with his reaction at the end of the Fulham game, looked gutted) . But he can’t control and I’m not sure 10 minutes per game will give him the match sharpness to finish those chances. I feel his game is playing on the shoulder of the defender and picking up those passes that get put into the channels between defenders (which never come) . All he gets is balls hoofed up to him. We’re crying out for a midfielder who can pick a pass.
4.) 01 Feb 2024 07:53:31
No one no one out is my prediction.
5.) 01 Feb 2024 07:59:43
Does Holgate need a lift?
6.) 01 Feb 2024 08:43:49
Wouldn’t give up on Beto.
Hasn’t had a lot of minutes and takes a while to settle into a new country and league.
I’m fairly confident we’ll see much improved performances from him next season - just hope we’re still in the premier league.
7.) 01 Feb 2024 11:38:59
Each to their own opinion but unless you have a change of pace, can control a ball, head a ball, especially from 2 yards out, unchallenged with an open goal begging, you will never cut it in the EPL.
8.) 01 Feb 2024 13:03:55
Every great striker misses goals from 2yds out at sometime. Even average ones too.
9.) 01 Feb 2024 15:50:41
So Fancy would you rather have Nunez over Beto?
Nunez is fast, got decent control and can head a ball all things you require.
Yet he had 11 shots the other night, 5 on target, hit the woodwork 4 times, missed a penalty and didn’t score a single goal in the game.
I’d stick with Beto.
10.) 01 Feb 2024 16:21:59
I appreciate no striker, whatever their ability, will score everything time but, as I said FBS each to their own but I formed my opinion early doors, with regard to Beto, and I’ve seen nothing to change my mind. There are much better players available for £25m.
11.) 01 Feb 2024 16:29:22
In a heartbeat, Nunez carries a threat with his pace and skill, which brings other players into play, and yes he may have missed a lot of chances but remind me has he scored more goals than Beto, Harrison, McNeill and DCL combined this season?
{Ed025's Note - he is a very dangerous player Fancy, (especially if your in the stands behind the goal lol), frightens the life out of the defenders he faces mate and i would take him in a heartbeat..
12.) 01 Feb 2024 16:42:00
Agree with FS, I've seen absolutely nothing to suggest Beto will turn it around. Obviously, a great forward can miss from yards out but they also score some goals around bad misses. Beto puts the effort in but doesn't look like he has the ability to play at this level. 25m wasted at a time when every penny counts. I hope he proves me wrong but the evidence so far suggests otherwise.
13 Sep 2023 19:39:52
The echo reporting that we’re looking at a Portuguese midfielder Xeka who was at Rennes last season and is now a free agent.
Do any of the Ed’s have any knowledge on this please.
Thanks in advance.
{Ed002's Note - It would be a surprise to me. Is he fit?}
1.) 14 Sep 2023 08:51:54
Don’t know Ed he signed for two years for Rennes last year and is now a free agent so doesn’t sound promising.
2.) 14 Sep 2023 23:34:05
Well Ed002, he'll fit right in if he's not fit. 100k a week, 5 year contract. That's the Everton way isn't it.
3.) 15 Sep 2023 08:52:05
Dentie we finally appear to be moving away from the previous recruitment that got us into some of the mess we are in.
4.) 15 Sep 2023 12:02:58
I hope so Gingerdan.
12 Sep 2023 13:48:44
The echo reporting that Fenerbace are potentially in for Gomes.
1.) 12 Sep 2023 14:01:04
Always a Turkish Club Big C, let Gomes go for nowt as long as they pay his wages eh mate.
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05 Apr 2024 07:37:31
I think the uncertainty of our situation is affecting everything. I know we all know these problems but can you imagine what it’s like with all this going through the players heads because it will be.
Will we get hit with another unfair points deduction
Will we not get any more points taken off us and we only need to beat those around us and we’ll stay up
Will we get new owners and will they be 777
Will 777 get rejected and we start again
Will there be money to spend
Will we get a different manager with new owners
Will we go into administration and get 9 points taken away
What happens if we get relegated due to points deduction.
Will I need to move clubs to keep my international status but my family are settled here
Will I get a new contract because I want to stay here
Do I get a new contact anywhere or is my time up
Plus all the other personal matters that are going on in the players lives .
Two decisions out of the clubs hands are the cause .
1.) 05 Apr 2024 07:50:16
Realism BigC??.
2.) 05 Apr 2024 08:57:57
Mmm not sure todays footballers think about any of that to be honest.
3.) 05 Apr 2024 09:53:39
Money doesn't stop people worrying about their family and kids Woburn, BigC makes some valid points especially those about uprooting when started.
Ps further to Paterson link below in regards crossing etc and pushing on, like Kieran Tierney both were immense in Scotland, but completely different standard in premiership, less time on the ball and better positional defending meaning crosses that were deemed decent in a average league don't cut it at top top level, work very much needed but agree our coaching isn't working obviously.
4.) 05 Apr 2024 10:17:20
Mocker how many players stay at any club for more than three or four years? At the end of the day they’re contractors, so they won’t mind moving as long as the money is coming in.
As for Patterson well we will just have to agree to disagree on that one.
5.) 05 Apr 2024 14:33:29
There’s no loyalty to any club these days regardless of what money there on, and some of that is down to not being local lads.
6.) 06 Apr 2024 10:56:03
Seamus Coleman!
Pickford @lm staying
Onana I’m staying
Gana there is only one club I’d come back to
To name but a few
Granted there are some that don’t get it Van der Meyder for example
But we can’t keep on about “ once Everton has touched you etc. and then say there’s no loyalty
I believe that if we hadn’t been skint Richie wouldn’t have left and if we could afford him he’d come back/ home
So there is loyalty with players, and I don’t except that they’re just contractors also even contractors have personal problems, and have concerns that the contact there on might finish for one reason or another. Our reasons are out of their control and even out of the clubs it’s all in the hands of Masters and his buddies.
7.) 06 Apr 2024 14:39:34
Your rely naive if you think footballers are loyal to clubs. The fact that you can count on one hand how many stay for any length of time shows that. Kiss the badge and move on.
8.) 06 Apr 2024 17:04:16
Did the line
To name a few get missed? I could go on and on also not local lads all that seems to happen on here is the local lads get slaughtered?!?!
11 Dec 2023 20:05:44
Can’t take any credit for this it was someone far quicker that I, apparently
The Premier League have now reviewed Harlands actions towards the referee and also his wtf post match tweet and have now decided to take action and have decided to dock Everton 5 points.
19 Oct 2023 13:24:55
Numerous outlets reporting that the FFP hearing has started, expected to go on for a week with the result published in a month.
1.) 19 Oct 2023 18:37:46
You organising a whip round!
2.) 19 Oct 2023 22:36:58
Mail now having another dig saying we haven’t paid an agent. Hundreds of thousands apparently. Must have been some player.
3.) 20 Oct 2023 00:59:14
I really do wonder why the Dailey Mail, is always so keen to run negative stories about EFC.
In there latest bit of nonsence they have tried to blow up a story about a disputed agent's bill, don't no who is right or wrong over said bill, but in the greater world of football finance, a few hundred thousand pounds, is neither here or there. Just another stick to beat the club with, the mail can stick it where the sun don't shine .
4.) 20 Oct 2023 11:42:51
Not just the daily Mail and not just Everton. The rags spin every story now and will write an inflammatory headline from almost nothing.
5.) 20 Oct 2023 18:59:53
Sports journalism died when social media flooded the market with opinion pieces.
12 Oct 2023 19:33:09
Get well soon Bill K
UTFT COYB.
06 Oct 2023 23:01:39
There are a number of discussion threads that I wish to comment on but I think the best way to give my point of view is to start a new one.
So a draw and two wins does not make us invincible, this season was always going to be about consolidation. SD has had one window and is about 8 or 9 games in with players coming back from injury and some playing in the premier league for the first time. I think if we’re honest with ourselves anywhere between 17th and 12th without too much of a dalliance near the relegation zone and possibly a semi reasonable run in the cups would show a steady improvement and be okay for this season and something to build on for next season with two more windows to strengthen.
So losing against Luton while not ideal was probably a reality check, for us as fans who suddenly get excited after some unexpected wins.
Do we think City fans are calling for peps head after their loss to Wolves. No! These things happen, the premier league is the best league and the toughest league in the world and no doubt we’ll get some more unexpected wins and unexpected losses.
However the difference between last season and this season is that we have strikers we are creating plenty of goal scoring opportunities and that sooner or later the goals will come and for now we will achieve comfortable mid table mediocrity this season. A platform to build on.
Consistency is something that the team need they need to have consistent performances, a consistent starting 11, consistent messages from the the coaching staff, a consistent style of play, the instability in the boardroom will be playing it’s part too the sooner that is remedied the better, be it 777 or someone else it needs to be settled.
Calling for SD to be sacked will not help, managing Everton is a poisoned chalice at the moment and it will get that way that no one worth having would want to come.
In my opinion I believe he will get it right. We like FM just need to be patient and weather the storm.
We can help with that by playing our part at Goodison, the away fans certainly never stop singing the boys on, that’s how Goodison needs to be a loud noisy intimidating place to go, The nervous silence is deafening at times.
The debate about 777 rumbles on in the media. There is little that if you’re against the sale that you can do, protests will only feed the media’s portrayal of Everton fans and Goodison Park as toxic which in turn will impact efforts on the pitch.
We as fans just need to get behind the the team and be the 12th man .
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not happy where we are, but it’s to be. Expected with where we are at . It won’t be a great season but hopefully not like the previous two
Anyway just my thoughts
UTFT COYB
1.) 07 Oct 2023 04:27:36
Top post Big c very well done.
2.) 07 Oct 2023 05:10:15
Is that you sean? ????? only joking Agreed ??.
3.) 07 Oct 2023 09:08:20
About as sensible a post as I’ve read on here Big C ?.
4.) 07 Oct 2023 09:08:52
Sorry but if you can’t win a home game, which is basically down to team selects and tactics then you’re not good enough.
As for expectations, well we should expect and demand more. Set your expectations low and you go nowhere.
That loss to Luton was all down to Dyche and his tactics. And people saying we were good for 15 mins? Well games last 90 mins + not 15.
Get use to losing and you will lose. Set your expectations low and you won’t progress. The manager should be demanding a lot more from this squad. But to do that he needs to be positive himself.
5.) 07 Oct 2023 09:19:59
Top post . A common sense look at the situation and echoes my own opinion.
6.) 07 Oct 2023 09:45:59
Don't agree mate, I think he is the worst manager we have ever had, be gone by Xmas.
7.) 07 Oct 2023 10:12:47
Nailed it there Woburn. Wish others would take their rose tinted specs off and see the light.
8.) 07 Oct 2023 11:00:26
Doesn’t matter how many chances we create if we can’t convert them.
XG isn’t going to keep us up, points are.
Agree it’s going to be a tough season and we shouldn’t expect too much, however what we should expect and this is from dyche himself “the minimum requirement is maximum effort” unfortunately yet to see this.
Too many times there’s very little effort from the players and Dyche comments after games are becoming tiresome.
Pick a team and stick with it - the team that beat villa in the cup was very good - so next game he changed it and we lose! He’s not helping himself.
9.) 07 Oct 2023 11:14:07
If we don't win today, think it will be his last game for us?
10.) 07 Oct 2023 20:04:53
Just to clarify my expectations for Everton are champions league winners, my earlier post was just a dose of realism. We may go out to win every game and that is what we should try to do but back in the real world we might not and after todays win we face them and West Ham right now if I was offered two 0-0 draws I’d take them . My hopes are that we put up loads of effort and maybe sneak a better result the other side of me hopes we don’t get spanked. We are a work in progress and things are working well and fate maybe played a hand in finding the right blend.
Don’t change a winning side!
Fingers crossed and lucky pants on and sing the boys home is all we can do
Have a happy night blues, watch MOTD and enjoy
UTFT COYB.
08 Apr 2024 14:24:35
The club have made a statement they will appeal due to the inconsistency in punishment process.
26 Feb 2024 08:01:10
It was a RossAftbl on X, number of them seen a BMD ?♂️ not sure on strength but thought I’d pass it on.
02 Oct 2023 21:49:13
So following on from my previous post just, usamanov isn’t going to benefit or profit from the sale of Everton. Moshiri hasn’t been sanctioned so there is no problem.
Journalists are supposed to report the news not create it, which is unfortunately what happens today to sell papers or click bait and reel people in .
Do you honestly think we would be this far along in the process if there was any evidence of anything on either side being a matter of concern. As I’ve said Everton will have carried out due diligence as will 777 into moshiri and Everton fc .
02 Oct 2023 21:38:45
Moshiri sold his shares in Arsenal to usamanov and then used that money to buy into Everton . Usamanov tried to buy Arsenal but he himself sold his shares to Kronke when Kronke wouldn’t sell . This all happened long before the war in Ukraine started so Moshiri can sell his shares in Everton to whoever he wants to, subject to those persons or companies meeting the fit and proper standards.
28 Sep 2023 15:27:55
I don’t care I was just trying to be helpful and give a perspective to the nonsense that appears in some ‘news’ publications.
Have a nice day blues
UTFT COYB.
06 Apr 2024 17:04:16
Did the line
To name a few get missed? I could go on and on also not local lads all that seems to happen on here is the local lads get slaughtered?!?!
06 Apr 2024 10:56:03
Seamus Coleman!
Pickford @lm staying
Onana I’m staying
Gana there is only one club I’d come back to
To name but a few
Granted there are some that don’t get it Van der Meyder for example
But we can’t keep on about “ once Everton has touched you etc. and then say there’s no loyalty
I believe that if we hadn’t been skint Richie wouldn’t have left and if we could afford him he’d come back/ home
So there is loyalty with players, and I don’t except that they’re just contractors also even contractors have personal problems, and have concerns that the contact there on might finish for one reason or another. Our reasons are out of their control and even out of the clubs it’s all in the hands of Masters and his buddies.
25 Jan 2024 18:59:28
I thought the maximum punishment was a 12 point deduction?
We’ve already received 10 and I heard the Prem were asking for 6 points for both us and Forrest.
The Prem have agreed that their rules are not fit for purpose and are being changed in August to come into line with UEFA/ FIFA
This is in line with our case of being hit with a double jeopardy being charged with 75% of the offence we’ve already been punished for.
If as i stated above the prem are asking for 6 points deduction for Forrest on their first offence then it would indicate that our 10 points may get reduced to 6
Do the Ed’s know if the 75% of the first charge that is subject of the second charge is 100% of the second charge or there is an additional 25% of misspending in the new years covered?
Hope that makes sense .
Thanks in anticipation.
{Ed002's Note - They are entirely separate matters. They will hear the appeal and then do the second charge where Everton will need to explain why they failed to action knowing they were in breach. Nottingham Forest will attempt to reach a settlement.}
29 Dec 2023 17:34:15
I think once the deal is done we’ll be fine and there may be funds available at the moment it’s in doubt and it may be dependent upon FM being gone. He’s obviously not going to put funds in and finances are probably tied into the deal. No doubt Ed2 will advise us accordingly, I’m not getting into finances but just talking in general terms.
Would be genuinely grateful if you could give us a steer on the situation Ed 2, also I would think SD and KT will have a plan and be able to move quickly once the deal is completed.
{Ed002's Note - The situation is dire. The club cannot afford the wages and have been borrowing from 777Partners each month.}
29 Dec 2023 16:12:02
From what Sean said no one is leaving as the squad is thin . Onana will be a world class midfielder. If we had our 10 points we would be 10th and the way we’re playing we’d be looking to push for a European place. Next season that could be a reality . Do we want to be selling our best players?
I would say no!