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20 Nov 2023 10:31:59
Folks, Liverpool fan in peace. I chatted with Ed 25 on the Liverpool page and whilst a 10 point deduction is extremely harsh for 1 FFP offence, I still think you will be grand this season - any other season and you're maybe thinking relegation but given how little points the likes of Luton, Sheff Utd, Bournemouth and Burnley are picking up I still fancy 3 of those 4 to go down.

The further '9 points' I would suspect would only be if you go into administration and that is due to the £300m the relegated clubs are apparently suing for - imo I don't think it will ever happen. Nothing was done when Sheff Utd went down the other season following the Hawkeye failure that saw Villa stay up and them go down - that was the argument, but nothing happened.

The interesting thing will be what happens other clubs in FFP predicaments.

Chelsea under investigation following certain actions taken during their previous ownership. The new owners have reported this so you would think that level of co-operation would bode well for them, but then your club fully co-operated too and ended up with a 10 point deduction!

Then the enigma that is Man City. Ironic they have just posted record profits too. Whilst a treble winning season would increase revenue, nobody believes the sources of their sponsorship deals are legit and 115 charges is simply mindblowing - the fact we still have not heard anything else in terms of progress is staggering given how quickly Everton were handed their punishment

Reasons:
Is it simply a better legal team than Everton?
Do the Club badges dictate how quickly these wheels turn?
The fact they City have always, steadfastly refused to co-operate in any investigation perhaps?

Interesting more still given Guardiola's comments saying to get it sorted quickly instead of waiting and that 'they are ready' - no bother, co-operate fully and the FA can proceed no bother.

The whole league waits with anticipation as to the punishments that Chelsea and, more importantly City, with 115 charges, will receive

Best of luck this season lads, a real kick in the teeth I'm sure but you have being playing some decent stuff lately and I think you will be fine this season.

Bill

1.) 20 Nov 2023 11:50:25
Cheers Bill, some interesting stuff there mate .


2.) 20 Nov 2023 13:09:22
Unfortunately we have been badly run Bill, hopefully that will change in the future. I believe that if every Premier league club was fully investigated that you would find some "irregularities" but Everton were singled out unfortunately.
The worst thing that can happen to Football in general is for clubs to start litigation against each other. The only winners are the lawyers and apart from the financial impact the amount of wasted time in depositions and fact gathering are something clubs do not need or can afford.


3.) 20 Nov 2023 14:22:35
I think the reality is that the Premier league don't want to take on City or Chelsea! Too much red tape? It just stinks from top to bottom. City with 115 charges? Why didn't they check 2 or 3 at a time? Could have cost Liverpool the league title? Their charges go back years. As for Chelsea. They have spent a billion pounds on players since 2022.How have they got away with it? Sorry to be like an old record but it just stinks. probably understand it more if City and Chelsea got punished before us!

{Ed002's Note - The Premier League are actively dealing with Manchester City - they have been charged. Whole swathes of the charges are effectively noise and can be ignored but they will be dealt with. Chelsea have not been charges with anything. You clearly do not understand FFP at all if you are going to bleat about the money spent. Hopeless.}


4.) 20 Nov 2023 17:03:03
This could be something to do with Transfers during Abramovich era?
Something to do with secret payments. Not sure which players it refers to? Why secret payments. Do they appear on the accounts for that period?


5.) 20 Nov 2023 23:31:10
What is FFP from a legal standpoint? Isn't it simply a rule? City's charges are not noise but are over a length of time. My belief (Politicaly) the Prem have messed up, they are not all powerful and are about to get told to stand in the corner. Interest payments on stadium loans were not taken into account by the Commission and they should have been. Mr KC over shot his remit by saying Clubs seeking compensation had merit! from who and for what? Certainly not Everton and certainly no holding in a Court of Law.

{Ed001's Note - no, it is a contract that all the teams sign up to and is legally binding.}


6.) 22 Nov 2023 19:07:26
Contracts can be challenged and in a Court of Law if necessary.


 

 

27 May 2023 11:28:49
Lads, Red here in peace - best of luck tomorrow, its in your own hands and hope yous get the result you need.

Bill

1.) 27 May 2023 12:49:06
Thanks Bill.


 

 

08 May 2023 19:37:41
Great result lads, definitely well due a result like that. Made even better with Leicester losing ??.

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01 May 2023 19:20:20
Good luck tonight lads, huge match for yous.

Bill

1.) 01 May 2023 20:38:49
Sorry had to turn the TV off or I will have a stroke. Our defending is so bad. 2-1 down after leading 1-0, lose this game and we deserve to be relegated.


2.) 01 May 2023 21:04:53
Me too Mike, too many swear words infront of my kids. How they’re professional footballers I will never know.


3.) 01 May 2023 21:05:17
Why persist with keane? It's beggars belief. Wait til the 85th minute when we chasing the game and Dyche brings Maupay the saviour on to rescue the game with one of his trademark hattrick. Sick as a chip, and it's only half time.


 

 

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15 Jan 2024 17:00:12
Just saw that - honestly I'm naive on the actual dynamics involved in these FFP cases and see just what is reported in the media, but what is the difference in the stories that are being reported on? What separates Everton, Forest, Chelsea and City?

How is the league so quick to fast-track the cases of Everton and Forest and so slow in the other 2?

With 115 charges, the City case is probably very complex but would that not mean it would warrant more attention to be settled more quickly given the high profile nature of it?

Chelsea have not been charged, is there even a case to answer? Are the media just stirring things up?

Why though has Everton and Forest seen their cases seemingly fast-tracked and dealt with so quickly?

I just do not understand how these cases are prioritised and dealt with.

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18 Dec 2023 13:19:47
Lol, Liverpool fan in peace, good one that.

Fair play lads and credit to Dyche, he has every single member of your team fighting and working his socks off for the whole game - you'd far too many passengers playing a while ago and it's good to see the impact he has made.

I'd a chat with Ed25 over on the Liverpool page and said whilst the 10 point deduction was ridiculously harsh, if it was going to happen in any season, you would pick this one as they are just some teams in it that you'd still be confident finishing above - amazing though that without that deduction you would be like 8th or 9th and challenging for Europe - honestly, I'd love to go back to days whereby we were the two top teams in the league (obviously you lot 2nd like lol) and you never know, could well happen again.

That being said, don't get me wrong, not so long ago we could have won a quadruple and saw you relegated in the same year - I'd have loved that lol and my Toffee Bro in Law would never have lived it down!

But I still remember the derbies where blues and reds sat together and whilst I acknowledge a strong rivalry the deduction was plain nuts lads - it will be interesting to see though what happens other clubs though re FFP breaches in the future.

Honestly, hard to hear from a red I know, but good luck for the rest of the season lads you are playing some decent stuff at the moment and genuinely will be interesting to see just how far up the table you can go in spite of that deduction ???.

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11 May 2023 13:52:21
FFP annoys me personally as it seems so hit and miss depending on how it's applied

In the leagues below us, very steadfastly applied to all as we have seen

In our league, Everton are rumoured to be harshly dealt with
Great result against Brighton, I genuinely hope you keep the momentum going - big ask to get a result against this City team but you never know in this league!

Good luck in the last few games lads.

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25 Apr 2023 15:47:57
Folks, Liverpool fan in peace - honestly, I really like Dyche and think he has gotten yous in a far better place than if you had of stuck with Frank

Make no bones about it, he has a big job, largely due to the 'recruitment' over the last number of years, which has been ridiculous - Delle Alli being a prime example of this, in what world would anybody think he was worth getting? What does he add to any team in years? 200k a week? Crazy, and that's the thing - absolute crazy money has been spent

That's what must be most frustrating - look for us, we'd all love Klopp to get a proper transfer kitty and go nuts, but the problem is when the wrong people are given huge sums to spend, it all goes so wrong and that is a big issue at Everton

Personally lads, I genuinely hope yous stay up and do believe yous have a great manager in Dyche to do it - awk, Ed 25 and I would chat, i'm old enough to remember the days blues and reds sat together at derbies - why wouldn't they? Siblings, neighbours and friends - we'll unfortunately never get back to those days, but I'm still old school in that hey, I always want Liverpool to thrash you each and every time, but honestly wish you nothing but the best of luck for the rest of the season, it is honestly my hope and belief you will stay up - then the fun begins in the summer, and I hope Dyche is like the Grim Reaper with some of the guys you have playing for you.

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23 Feb 2021 16:31:17
Gomez injury too bignev killed us but Jota def missed. He was clinical so although we weren't at our best we were still creating a few chances and he was burying them.

That's a big problem at the minute, we're just not creating a lot at the moment and what we do create, nobody is clinical enough tbh.

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