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27 Aug 2021 22:56:05
Some interesting (Diaz, edouard) and depressing (Rondon) rumours flying around regarding who we may be looking to sign - however they all appear to be attacking players.
I know we could potentially do with some extra cover in that area but surely Rightback is a much more pressing area we should look to recruit first but not much mention of any options.
Any of the Ed’s know if we’ve got any interest in any right backs? Seeing Dalot from Utd may be available on loan with obligation to buy - we were linked with him last season any idea if we’d be in for him again?
{Ed002's Note - I have explained the Patterson, Aarons options as you know. I am not aware of anything new.}
1.) 28 Aug 2021 08:57:27
Looks like it could be Maitland Niles from Arsenal on loan,
not a bad signing in my opinion. Would be happy with window if we got him, Diaz and Edouard.
2.) 28 Aug 2021 11:35:24
Thanks for the reply Ed, going to be an interesting few days ahead. Hopefully we can move some on and get some in to replace them. Time for Brands to earn his money.
3.) 28 Aug 2021 20:07:22
Personally think Rondon would be ok we want someone who will back up DCL Rondon is a handful and would not be to much of worry filling in for him it’s a cheap way of filing a gap that is not a priority, Kean never played or did King so what’s the point in spending money on a position that Rondon could do a job for 12 months.
26 Aug 2021 15:20:22
Any of the Ed’s know if any substance to moise kean back to juventus with us looking at McKennie coming the other way?
Cheers.
{Ed025's Note - i cant see it dan mate..
09 Aug 2021 16:05:22
Just seen Atalanta have apparently enquired about Iwobi - not sure how true this is.
Any of the Ed’s know about it?
1.) 09 Aug 2021 16:54:40
They are a sensible well run club in the past. Reckon click bait as also names one player from lots of other clubs. But you never know!
2.) 09 Aug 2021 17:24:13
Atlantis maybe😂😂.
{Ed025's Note - love it GB..
3.) 09 Aug 2021 17:32:15
I can’t understand why they’d want him, but let’s hope it’s true! I’d accept 10 million just to get rid and start again!
4.) 09 Aug 2021 17:49:08
Let him go for 10p and that would be a rip off 😂😂.
5.) 09 Aug 2021 18:46:02
I'll be honest, after Saturdays reality check, I've been rather down when it comes to anything Everton related.
But boy, did the article stating that Atalanta might be interested in Iwobi perk me up.
6.) 09 Aug 2021 18:55:54
If it is you got to think why.
A - they've lost there minds
B - they see a technically proficent player who may be being used in the wrong place, they think they can improve him and will bring something to there team. Cases papu gomez or mario pascilic
Dont get me wrong i'm no iwobi fan. but Atalanta are no mugs and don't do stuff on the spare of the moment.
7.) 09 Aug 2021 19:23:45
There’s a reason why we paid over 30 million for the lad. But it hasn’t worked out, so, they’re welcome to try and get a tune out of him.
8.) 09 Aug 2021 19:42:31
Looked like clickbait to me. Headline citing interest in multiple prem players to get clicks from fans of different clubs.
Hope it's true of course, another in the long list of bad signings. If this summer ended up being the clear out we so desperately need and not much coming in I could live with that - as long as we don't go down, would give us a chance for a proper look at whether youngsters are good enough and put us in a better position to have a positive window next summer.
9.) 09 Aug 2021 20:04:55
Atalanta are the smartest team in Europe when it comes to transfers. There’s a player in Iwobi, under the proper set-up, but we refuse to play half-decent football which doesn't suit his play. If it happens, they’ll be getting a good player.
10.) 10 Aug 2021 02:18:18
I am yet to see this player you speak of.
He is quite literally garbage. What is he good at? I can't name one strength of his. He is an awkward mover, has a brain the level of Barkley's and has no end product.
He is one of the worst signings we have made in the premier league. Around £35 million and he has scored 2 goals. The mind boggles how anyone tries/ wants to defend him.
11.) 10 Aug 2021 09:38:19
I would imagine he will be to expensive for them, i'm sure we would want to get a fair amount back.
12.) 10 Aug 2021 09:55:01
I remember when Dunc took over for a few games and we beat Chelsea at Goodison with ball boys taking turns to hug the big lad. I gave Iwobi man of the match. He was everywhere and never stopped running and had a massive grin on his face at the end having given everything.
So maybe it's about how he's used and whether the style of play suits him and Carlo just had other ideas. He's quick and strong and can actually beat defenders (although his final ball could be better) and he'll run all day. He probably needs to improve his positional play but that's something a good manager can sort. So I think there's a good player in there.
13.) 10 Aug 2021 13:17:28
Think it's the usual case of them asking around for loan players and us saying we'd rather sell.
07 Jun 2021 10:43:00
Hi there, was wondering if anyone knows if we have received or are due any compensation for Carlo leaving us mid-contract?
The club has been very quiet on his departure and have seen rumours that he had a clause in his contract he could leave for free if certain teams came in for him.
Cheers.
{Ed025's Note - its very unclear at the moment dan, but im sure it will come out in the wash at some point mate..
1.) 07 Jun 2021 11:02:26
I had read he had a clause in his contract allowing him to move if clubs of a certain stature were to approach him.
Whether it relates to compensation I did not see.
2.) 07 Jun 2021 11:07:14
Fabrizio Romano said compensation package agreed and he's normally spot on with his info the cynic in me wonders if one of the clauses in his contract stated he could leave for a much lesser fee if we didn't achieve Europe (prob over thinking it) but looking at some of the tactics he played makes sense in my head.
03 Jan 2021 22:33:36
Any substance to the rumour PSG trying to arrange a permanent deal for Moise Kean for £31m?
{Ed002's Note - As I explained there is no option and I am not aware of anything right now.}
1.) 03 Jan 2021 23:02:13
No worries Ed, thanks for the reply. Just saw it mentioned on sky sports website that they were looking to do a deal.
2.) 04 Jan 2021 00:49:09
They are looking to buy him now if he goes may open the door to sign zaha be good business if both happen.
3.) 04 Jan 2021 09:38:25
I'd be looking for more than 31 million though and we have chance of signing zaha even with Kean sale he cost to much fee and wages.
4.) 04 Jan 2021 12:05:16
If we get Zaha - would mean replacing entire midfield again in 3-4 years and no potential sell on
I think Zaha is no longer an option.
5.) 04 Jan 2021 13:39:05
We are always going to be replacing midfielders on a regular basis, because we don't buy young midfielders. So 3-4 years would be pretty good.
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08 Sep 2021 20:25:07
Fingers crossed 2 international goals or more was one of the clauses in Moise Keans loan contract.
04 Sep 2021 15:03:17
Don’t you just love the international break.
All of us sitting back and enjoying the 7pts from 3 games we’ve got, the progression to the next round of the cup and the much better performances we have seen in these 4 games and a manager who actually wants to be at the club and see it succeed.
But then this is Everton so clearly fans are not going to do the above and instead look at something to moan about 🤦â€â™‚ï¸.
1.) 04 Sep 2021 16:02:58
Well said, gingerdan. Why can't people be happy with a good start to the season rather than rip into certain people at the club?
2.) 04 Sep 2021 16:27:55
It’s what some Everton fans like to do mate, good post Gingerdan.
3.) 04 Sep 2021 16:46:40
It's the usual suspects out I force again. Just enjoy the ride.
4.) 04 Sep 2021 17:44:52
It's OK to question why we are in an ffp mess, just as its OK to be happy we have had a decent start to the season. I myself sit in both camps.
5.) 04 Sep 2021 19:11:34
True, efcone, but it's blatantly obvious as to why we're in a mess with ffp. At least we are attempting to right the wrongs.
6.) 05 Sep 2021 00:53:59
We are attempting to right the wrongs when we have no other choice. Why are you happy we didn't try and right them years ago as every other 'WELL RUN' club has?
Bravo for finally facing facts.
7.) 05 Sep 2021 08:09:56
All the so called top 6 teams owners take out large sums of money every year to line their pockets.
City and Leicester have managed to break into that 6 and good on them.
That is what Farhad is trying to do and good on him for trying. The more that can break the stronghold the more of a level playing field we will all have to play on.
The Premier league P/ S and FFP hasn't changed in years despite the costs of players, wages and inflation rocketing but it still remains 105 million. That can't be right can it?
Farhad is putting money into our club to make it successful and to try and win things and if that's what he wants to do then let him.
8.) 05 Sep 2021 11:33:12
BW, you assume wrong, mate. I've known the FACTS for a couple of seasons, the way we were spending wasn't sustainable. So, I'm happy now as it is being addressed rather than left. I would have been happy if the gamble had paid off, like most fans. No point in me repeating smits reply but he makes a good point over your 'well run' clubs.
31 Aug 2021 18:06:39
Think Rafa has misunderstood something regarding the left back situation in allowing Nkounkou to go out on loan.
Think he must have only heard part of what was said about Delph.
What he must of heard of the conversation was “Delph is leftbackâ€
When actually what the conversation was “Delph is left back in the treatment room on match daysâ€.
1.) 31 Aug 2021 19:44:57
I would not be surprised if he’s been released on loan to ensure he has more playing and development time rather than sit on the bench and to assist in relaxing the wage bill because other signings are pending.
24 Aug 2021 21:05:15
Well is that the last we’ll see of Moise kean?
Gets a chance and gets sent off - what was he thinking?
1.) 24 Aug 2021 21:17:18
Harsh decision IMO Ginger as they could have just both got yellows and a ticking off.
The more I watch the lad though you can’t help thinking he don’t want to be here. Yep f that’s the case then he can go for the right price if we can.
2.) 24 Aug 2021 21:23:13
I think he knew exactly what he was doing. Spoilt brat, should be ashamed of himself, I've never seen a player behave like he has.
3.) 24 Aug 2021 21:29:53
Never-ending Kean who's this Iwobi guy laying for us, laid on 3 goals.
4.) 24 Aug 2021 21:48:54
He under performed tonight how much we pay 30 mil he doesn't want be at everton I can accept us as being a stepping stone but he hasn't no where near justified moving to a bigger club I'd cut my losses with him and also James aswell give dobbs or simms a chance before him anyday of week rant over was nice see JP and Braithwaite in team aswell tonight.
5.) 24 Aug 2021 21:51:37
What did kean do? Looked like a shoulder bsrge to me. Also his goal was not offside. That being said i am not a fan but who on earth woukd sign him?
6.) 24 Aug 2021 21:52:36
Kean reacted to a shove in the back. He reacted right if front of the ref. You can't react and not expect to get sent off now. I've no sympathy for him. He nearly got us knocked out the cup for nothing. Get him gone asap. I'd take a low ball offer get him off the wages. Get his attitude out of our club. He doesn't deserve to start a game again.
But on the plus side, and I know it's only Huddersfield and our 3rd game in but, Alex Iwobi was great. Goal and pre assist. Getting in all the right areas, I always complained last year we didn't have many players in the box, he always seems to be in there at the right time.
7.) 24 Aug 2021 22:48:17
Iwobi has stunk the place out for 2 years and publicly come out and said he didn't want to join everton and you're lauding him like he's Ronaldo.
Moise kean had a half decent game, had a goal chalked off for offside which is neglible and got sent off for a yellow card offence.
Let's not be too reactive to an Iwobi resurgence just yet.
15 Aug 2021 11:24:33
Well done to Rafa and the boys yesterday. Nice to see they’ve silenced a few on here.
Was good to see a manager animated on the touch line trying to get the team going. Making positive substitutions. Changing formation mid game and when got the equaliser pushing them on for the win.
Also playing players in their correct positions.
Haven’t seen that for a while.
Good to see the players not completely imploding when we conceded. Looked a bit dodgy for a while but they managed to stay in the game. They also all actually working till the last kick of the game. Looked so much fitter than last season.
Special mention to Doucore who was immense yesterday.
Also iwobi did well with his sub appearance, got the free kick from which doucore ended up scoring from and also played a part in DCL goal.
Agree Keane and Holgate not the best yesterday but we will have Godfrey back at some point so not unduly worried by that.
Not going to get carried away as only first game of the season but definitely a lot of positives to take from that performance and hopefully some of the moaners on here saw something yesterday to give them hope for the season ahead.
1.) 15 Aug 2021 18:02:15
From what I have seen everyone on here has had a moan about the team at some point and rightly so. Yes they did well yesterday, the most positive aspect being keeping going the full 90mins.
12 Sep 2021 10:35:23
Was he genuinely injured with the games he missed? I’m not so sure.
However when we signed him was not expecting him to start every game as wasn’t sure he’d suit the physicality of the league.
He did well when he played but would have hoped for more last season from him.
If he’s fit then he has to earn a place in match day team on merit and be worthy of replacing one of the current match day team.
If he stays fit and puts the effort in he could be a very good addition to team this season - however emphasis on could.
31 Aug 2021 15:09:00
Not sure where you’ve been looking but There’s loads of rumour Bluetoff.
Ins:
Maitland-niles
Rondon
Diaz
Patterson
Jebbison
Etc.
Outs:
Rodriguez
Nkounkou
Gomes
Branthwaite
Whether any of these deals happen is another matter though.
31 Aug 2021 09:53:44
All complicated these loans with criteria’s involved.
Hopefully the criteria is met and we don’t see him again until we’re playing juventus in the champions league next season - 😂
Shame it never worked out with us, but as Ed002 said it was only as a stepping stone.
Looks like the deal is not as bad as we all first thought.
Also gets a wage off the books as well as a player out of the club who doesn’t want to be with us.
31 Aug 2021 09:17:50
Efcone how would he be available on a free? Surely as he signed a 5yr contract with us and if he doesn’t meet the criteria in the loan he’d be back to us as would still have 1yr left on the 5yr contract he signed with us?
29 Aug 2021 23:25:11
His move to us as ed002 told us previously was a stepping stone Pauly. Unfortunately looks like he fell in the river!
Whilst the club were hoping for him to do well and improve which would have enabled us to profit from his purchase and future sale unfortunately it never worked out that way.
I think it was a fair risk to take by the club as he was touted as being the next big thing etc. Just a shame he never showed it for us and I don’t think the C.V. has helped regarding us being able to sell him.
Quite interesting that PSG with all their money didn’t want to purchase him after he did well with them - that in itself suggests there could be some potential issues with him and maybe he’s not as great as everyone originally thought he would be.
16 Sep 2021 15:48:52
Think all of us as Everton fans can blame him as we all want what’s best for the club and for the team to do well.
However looking at it without my blue tinted spectacles on there’s absolutely no incentive for him to want to do well. He’s going to get paid whether he plays or not, whether he busts a gut or does the bare minimum.
I’m hoping he’s the last of these types of signings we make - big wages to entice a player that wouldn’t have ordinarily come to us as clearly money his only motivation.
Early days yet but look at Townsend and gray, haven’t broken the bank to get them, neither had any prior allegiance to Everton, however both hard working professionals who want to succeed and actually look like and sound like they enjoy being at Everton - I’ll take that any day of the week over another James type signing.
15 Sep 2021 22:18:20
Let’s think?
Stay as I am playing on twitch and pick up my obscene wage.
Train really hard, get picked, get lumps kicked out of me, and pick up my obscene wage.
Can’t blame him really for picking the first option as we gave him that contract and there doesn’t seem to be any incentive for him to bust a gut.
Until we sign players on performance related contracts, some will do the bare minimum to get their wage.
{Ed025's Note - oh i can blame him alright dan, had the chance to leave a legacy but goes down in history as a waster who just couldn,t be arsed, is already a multi multi millionaire so how much money do you need?..
15 Sep 2021 18:14:45
No one is going to come in for him in January. Why would they? They could have him on a free in the summer.
Also why would he want to leave? If he’s on £200k per week with us it’s highly unlikely he’ll get that anywhere else so why would he want to leave for less money? I can’t imagine any of us on here would give up a nice and easy job on ridiculous wages to go and have to graft somewhere else to earn less.
We gave him the contract so we just have to ride it out, unless he decides to leave he’s with us till the end of the season.
{Ed025's Note - nail on the head there dan..
14 Sep 2021 11:37:50
I was watching the match Brass. All a matter of opinions and I didn’t think he did that well when he came on.
Think the change of shape made all the difference not him coming on.
14 Sep 2021 11:36:12
Jimbo if one of our players had done as you say they’d have been sent off.
Refereeing last night was atrocious.
Burnley got away with some nasty tackles yet Townsend got a yellow for a slight tug on a shirt that was no way a booking.