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16 Jun 2025 22:22:49
Hoping these rumours to players and in particular the recent Kyle Walker one is the club trying to figure out who it was that has been leaking information from the club ?.
{Ed025's Note - if its true Dan...it could be Mr Bean mate..
1.) 16 Jun 2025 23:22:24
Ment to be getting age down and past few days I've seen walker 35, Fred 32 and tagliafino 32. My high hopes for our new regime is getting me nervous up to now.
2.) 16 Jun 2025 23:48:11
I thought we'd try to get a lot younger in 1st like Barry, Nusa, Diarra to make a few.
3.) 17 Jun 2025 07:01:35
I suspect it’ll need to be balanced with who’s available on a free and where we spend money. We’ve got rid of some older players, I can live with a couple coming in as long as we invest in youth too.
4.) 17 Jun 2025 07:20:29
To be fair, Walker is still decent, he's got Premier league experience, is a winner, relatively injury free and could play right back or centre back, so a one year contract sounds decent if he is free or a loan.
{Ed025's Note - i suppose its how you look at it Dev, for me Walker is crap and he will be a blocker for a younger full back coming through, i will have the experience bit but we already have that i feel in the likes of Tarks, Gana and Pickford, but its all about opinions i suppose mate..
5.) 17 Jun 2025 08:46:44
Patterson hasn't been getting a game anyway, Dyche and Moyse both preferring Coleman or Walker. Would be happy to go for younger player but will probably cost extortionate amounts, when we need to spend big on a striker and wingers.
6.) 17 Jun 2025 09:29:05
Its all media rubbish while nothing is happening. The club will have their targets and we won't even know who they are. We will just see who has signed and won't know if they where 1st 2nd or 3rd down the list of players wanted.
7.) 17 Jun 2025 15:33:42
I've seen a few posts in this forum talking about a so called leak at the club. How much truth is actually in that? From what I see, the press link us to every player, regardless of age or how much their wages would be, so surely they will be right a couple of times with their speculation? If that's the case then there is no leak, they are just getting a couple of our targets right and that would happen when they are naming around 200 players that are coming to us.
19 May 2025 11:45:48
What’s anyone’s take on the substitutes yesterday and the way they were introduced.
In particular when Young came on it was clearly mentioned it was his last home game for us and won’t be with us next season.
However nothing was mentioned when Keane or DCL came on.
I’m wondering if this is as they may have contract extensions offered but no decision has yet been made by them?
Any thoughts?
{Ed025's Note - i think their situation is in abeyance Dan, if we think we can get better for their positions at the right price then they will leave, but if not they will be given short term contracts until the right replacements can be identified mate, it cannot all be done in one window..
1.) 19 May 2025 13:03:16
Definitely all can’t be done in one window.
Just thought it was interesting that Young not being with us next season was mentioned, however nothing about DCL or Keane and for that matter there was nothing said when Harrison came on.
Going to be an interesting summer for us.
Provided we’re stronger starting next season and make some decent recruitment I’m sure fans will get over any contract extensions given out.
{Ed025's Note - that may depend on who and how long the contracts may be Dan..
2.) 19 May 2025 14:10:00
Would definitely like Keane and DCL gone in the summer with a few others, I think once the window opens we are going to be very busy with ins and outs.
3.) 19 May 2025 15:16:12
I'd imagine it's because a) nothing has been decided yet and/ or b) nothing has been announced yet.
I definitely want Keane gone. DCL, I'm not too fussed either way, I wouldn't be gutted if he stayed. Whereas I'd be devastated if Keane stays.
4.) 19 May 2025 15:28:46
I would be seriously underwhelmed if both stayed Jase.
DCL should be quicker out the door than Keane imo. Especially the way the last year or so has gone.
As poor as I think Keane is, he is never a problem. He conducts himself well and tries his best, even if his best is nowhere near good enough.
Holgate, Keane, Doucoure and DCL should be out the door at the first opportunity. That would certainly make me feel like TFG are not for d***ing around and mean business.
{Ed025's Note - i would like to throw Harrison in there as well...literally.. :)
5.) 19 May 2025 16:17:50
Guess I didn't count him because he isn't ours Ed (yet) haha.
6.) 19 May 2025 16:41:02
I wouldn’t keep any of the three loans we made. Send back and try again.
7.) 19 May 2025 23:20:09
Think they included Young’s details of leaving as it had been officially announced Dan.
Like Ed said, they will be offered something if the money is right and we can’t get a replacement in. It’s worrying more than anything when you consider Harrison, Keane and Doucs might be offered extensions. I can’t see it myself. Coleman, DCL and Gueye I can see getting 12 months and us signing Alcaraz permanently but not the others. However, needs must. We’ll probably offer 5-6 extensions though not everyone will be happy.
Moving Young on is the right thing to do in my opinion. Forgot we had Holgate. Were West Brom relegated this season? I just assumed they were unless he didn’t play much.
8.) 20 May 2025 14:58:43
No idea about Keane but DCL (always stands for Damaged Cruciate Ligament in my head now) and Doucs still have a paycut extension on the table if they want it, Young already turned down the paycut.
9.) 20 May 2025 15:38:16
Nobody seems bothered that Maupay is heading out permanently, I wonder why ??.
31 Jan 2025 22:33:58
Stanley Mills - just joined Oxford on a permanent deal. Rather strange one as was highly thought of by the club - wonder if his recent injury has played a part in him being sold.
{Ed025's Note - i had high hopes for him Dan..
1.) 31 Jan 2025 23:22:11
Really surprised by that news. Everyone spoke of him quite highly.
2.) 31 Jan 2025 23:45:22
More of that ‘Pure Profit’ money coming in.
3.) 01 Feb 2025 00:10:29
Shows the gulf between what we are told are the promising ones and the 1st team. Since Rhino left the youth sides have been neglected. Hopefully a lot of work in the coming few years by the new owners will plough some genuine improvements in the youth programs. As a resident of Oxford he did very well but they're now in the Championship and that's a leap from the time he was playing in L1. I personally feel they're currently about as high as they're going to get and wouldn't be surprised to see them slip back to L1 in a season or 2 as there are some giants in the championship and frankly Oxford are punching above themselves. It's not like the Joey Beauchamp years of the mid late 90s. If he flourishes then fare play to him and the U's but he's miles from what we need at the moment. And from a player point of view I respect he wants first team football. He'd likely kick about in the reserves until we released him if he stayed. Good move for all parties.
4.) 01 Feb 2025 00:39:11
Me too, I hope there is a first option buy back in the deal.
5.) 01 Feb 2025 11:54:52
The alternative perspective is that these players were hyped up in terms of potential by they previous regime as a means off justifying themselves.
Maybe the new regime has identified that players need to be hitting certain benchmarks but certain stages of their career.
I'd forgotten the name to be honest, so maybe he just didn't progress any further.
19 Jul 2024 11:20:01
Friedkin group not completing takeover!
That’s quite worrying as probably something significant come up in due diligence.
What’s the future of the club now?
1.) 19 Jul 2024 11:27:18
It’s incredibly worrying. What have they found?
2.) 19 Jul 2024 11:31:02
Gutted. Thought this would sort out the club.
What skeleton have they found? Or is this Moshiri messing about?
3.) 19 Jul 2024 11:34:38
Something seriously wrong with this club.
Yet another kick in the guts for supporters. Just waiting for the ground to start subsiding now and finish us off.
4.) 19 Jul 2024 11:43:10
Unbelievable.
5.) 19 Jul 2024 11:44:19
Something to do with the loan from 777/ A Cap and its legality. It’s quite unbelievable. Is Usmanov lurking in the background….
12 Jun 2024 20:18:43
Anyone else starting to feel that the takeover is going to go horribly wrong?
Seeing rumours that A-cap are now in a strong position as Moshiris preferred bidders even though numerous issues with them.
Just have a feeling he’ll grant exclusivity to another outfit that won’t be able to complete the deal and the genuine interested parties will have enough and pull out.
May just be being pessimistic but the way moshiri has acted so far suggests he won’t make the right decision.
{Ed025's Note - i did tell you all this was not an open and shut case Dan, i got called a miserable sod for saying it wont be as easy as people were thinking mate, i hope im wrong of course but where money is concerned it always bring the worst out of people in my experience..
1.) 13 Jun 2024 06:09:46
Think we all feel that Ed. Loon at Ashley at Newcastle; it’s a similar situation in my eyes. We are in for a bumpy ride for sure.
{Ed025's Note - i think you are right BR, lets not think that Moshiri or any of the prospective buyers give one jot about Everton mate, they are all sharks looking for a pay day and if anyone tells you different they are very naive..
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11 May 2025 11:02:12
With all the differing opinions on Beto thought it would be interesting to have a look at Moyes track record when it comes to centre forward recruitment.
Whilst Moyes has signed some really good players over the years, if you look at his centre forward recruitment not attacking players in general but those players classed as a centre forward it’s actually quite poor.
Fans calling for Beto to be sold and replaced by someone better may actually be disappointed with the replacement based on Moyes centre forward signings.
For every Yakubu and Jelavic there’s at least a few of the likes of Beattie, Saha, Johnson, Jukitewicz, Beckford, Gueye, Ferrari, Hugill, Vellios, Ings and Scamacca.
Whilst I appreciate some fans want to see Beto replaced - if those same fans believe Moyes will find us a gem - there may be significant disappointment as he definitely has signed far more poor centre forwards than good ones, which is strange as in other areas of the pitch he’s done some excellent recruitment.
1.) 11 May 2025 12:13:00
I don't think it is that strange. Recruiting a high performing striker is widely known as the hardest position to fill and many top managers and clubs get it wrong.
Saha and Johnson may not have been knocking in 20 a season but they were probably around the 1 in 3 mark.
Jukitewicz was a kid, as was Gueye and Vellios.
Ings record before Moyes took him to West Ham was a consistent PL goal scorer. Hugill and Beckford were lower league punts and I am sure Ferrari was a centre back.
2.) 11 May 2025 12:37:21
Ferrari was a centre back. Was on loan from Roma I think.
3.) 11 May 2025 12:43:32
Forgetting the CF aspect, you've just described recruitment for every team. Buying players is always a gamble despite whatever due diligence is done beforehand. Johnson and Saha were decent acquisitions at that time and scored a few goals, the former probably would have got more if he wasn't homesick and had stayed a season or two.
Some of the others were just kids with high potential in their own age groups and we all know not everyone of the youngsters will reach that potential.
If we get a forward in that can hold up the ball, link play, stay onside, not give the ball away whenever it gets up top and chip in with goals then I don't see much disappointment from fans at all.
4.) 11 May 2025 12:49:32
BN - my bad with Ferrari
You do confirm my point though that there is no guarantee that Moyes will be able to replace Beto with a better goal scorer.
As you rightly say It’s hardest position to recruit into.
To buy a guaranteed goalscorer it’ll cost quite a lot of money - more money than the sale of Beto would likely generate.
Beto is currently got 11 goals in 2291 minutes in the league which is not far off 1 goal every 2 games for us which is considerably better than the majority of Moyes striker signings
Yakubu had 33 goals 6747 minutes and Jelavic 21 in 4578 minutes - both of which are pretty similar to Beto’s return for us.
5.) 11 May 2025 13:31:13
Is your point that we shouldn’t try to replace current players with better players? Surely we should aim to have a 20+ goal striker in the team. Not sure that’s Beto, but he’s be a decent back up.
6.) 11 May 2025 15:22:07
Not many prem clubs have 20+ goal strikers JB these days.
Think we have to aim for one but I think only a handful of players have hit that target this year (Salah, Isak and Haaland) with a few more 18+ (Wood, Mbeumo and Wissa) . Still two games to go though so there might be more.
Think we have to start with 10+ and go from there. Personally, I’d like to have a midfielder or two in and around that number also.
7.) 11 May 2025 16:07:11
JB - the point is we all want the team to improve, however it’s not as simple as that.
Trying to get the players to improve us is a massive task.
Players have got to be available, got to want to join us, got to want to be happy with wages offered, selling teams have to be happy with fees offered - there’s loads of issues - it’s not football manager.
There is an awful lot of work that needs to be done on the squad and I don’t think centre forward is the most pressing area this window - particularly given we’ve got a striker who’s currently averaging a goal every 2 games.
Beto is not to everyone’s liking as we’ve seen - but given the budget and work required in improving the squad I don’t think replacing him is a priority this window.
We could end up with a worse centre forward particularly when you look at how poorly Moyes has done recruiting centre forwards.
8.) 11 May 2025 16:37:27
You can have a great centre forward, but unless you have the players around him to create the chances then he won’t score 20 goals a season.
We desperately need creative players in our team, not ones who just run around a lot.
{Ed025's Note - i agree mate..
9.) 11 May 2025 17:13:06
Never said it was simple. Just said it should be our aim. Of course not every transfer will work out, that’s no reason not to try and improve the squad. If Moyes thinks we can do better, he’s in a better position to judge than us.
10.) 11 May 2025 17:29:21
No worries GD.
Absolutely I confirm your point. In fact, it doesn't matter if you spend 10's of millions on them, they still aren't guaranteed to score goals. Look at United's and Liverpool's recent striker buys.
You don't need to sell Beto to me mate. I was one of the first fans when he hadn't even got a sniff for us, calling for him to play over DCL. I got absolute pelters (and rightly so) .
That being said, it was purely circumstantial at that time. Do I believe he is the most effective striker at the club, absolutely but that is only because the other options are so poor. I also believe that Mykolenko is the most effective lb at the club but in no way, shape or form do I want him to be starting PL games as our 1st choice LB.
Beto is an honest lad and an effective striker who will score us goals. However, if we are getting offers of around 25 million for him, I would take it. We would make our money back on him and I think there are strikers out there that could at the very least match his goal output but offer other things to the side.
I would be going all out for Emegha at Strasbourg. He will end up in the prem in the next 1-3 transfer windows and whoever gets him will have a top, well-rounded and young CF. Perhaps what is most impressive about him is his ability to link up play for a big lad. I think he has something like a 75%/ 80% pass completion rate, which considering the position he plays, is outrageous.
I think what is important to bear in mind is that a lot of teams goals now come from the inside forwards. If you get a striker that can score but also get the most out of those around him, that is what I would be focusing on, rather than trying to find one player that scores all the goals. Given how meticulous opposing teams coaching staff are now, it wouldn't be long until teams started working out how to nullify them. It is much harder to do that when you have goals from all across the forward positions.
I would like to see us go after Emegha or any of the below. Some of them far better technically than what we have now and have the ability to play across multiple forward positions. Others, big and physical like Beto but more strings to their bow.
Kalimuendo - Rennes
Mika Biereth - Monaco
Jonathan Burkardt - Mainz
Demirovic - Stuttgart
Bonny - Parma.
11.) 11 May 2025 17:34:48
Before we look at more goals from Beto, we need to look at more goals from the wingers and cam. The reason the likes of Harrison, Lindstrom and Doucoure haven't got 10+ a season has absolutely nothing to do with Beto's hold up play.
12.) 11 May 2025 18:01:43
I wouldn't be bothered if our strikers only hit 10 goals a season as long as midfield and winers chip in with 5 to 10 goals too. In our current team it only looks like beto and Ndiaye can score for us. Remember under martinez when barkley, mirallas and delafeou chipped in too with lukaku plundering most of them.
13.) 11 May 2025 19:40:34
Some great replies in this thread.
As several have mentioned there are very few goals in the rest of the team without Beto (8) and Ndiaye (7) .
Next best scorer is McNeil (4) .
We’ve then got Keane, Doucore and DCL all on 3 and all those 3 are likely to be leaving end of the season.
We definitely need more goals in the team and centre forward area doesn’t appear to be the most pressing area to address.
We need goals from other areas of the pitch - hoping we can find another Arteta or Cahill this window.
14.) 11 May 2025 20:55:10
Brilliant thoughts an opinions lads as always me personally I would like us to keep beto as either no 1 or no 2 striker next season I like him me he does look bit clumsy but you can't fault the lads effort an commitment I think dcl is off though but as Dan as mentioned its bloody hard to find a forward to guarantee 15+20 goals season but as chris as mentioned aswell he needs better players around him and harrison a doucoura are just simply not the answer and compering his contract to salahs i just pissed meself laughing salah is one best forwards in world his goal to ratio these last 5 years is absolutely crazy and harrison sorry he can run at best can't pass can't cross and definitely can't score but please everton whoever is in charge of transfer recruitment please buy Charlie alcarez 15 mil is a bargain and I have seen enough of him in a blue shirt to activate that 15 million buy clause.
10 May 2025 16:34:40
Beto!
10 May 2025 12:06:58
Looking forward to the transfer window and the inevitable fall out from fans moaning about who we recruit and who we sell.
Think there’s a lot of fans in here that are going to be disappointed with what happens.
It’s a massive summer for us as a club with several players out of contract as well as others we need to move on.
However there’s little chance the club will get all the quality players in that we need to improve the squad in one window.
Going to be interesting to see what the club prioritise.
For me the 3 main areas that need addressing would be a decent winger, a rightback as unfortunately doesn’t appear Patterson is up to the task and a no. 10.
Priorities may change if we sell the likes of branthwaite, Beto etc.
Think we all need to strap in for an eventful summer of recruitment, with hopefully some decent additions but also be prepared for some underwhelming activity.
1.) 10 May 2025 12:58:02
Looking forward to it myself, many reports saying we will have good budget for new players, exciting times after what we have been through.
2.) 10 May 2025 12:59:58
Be no complaints from me as long as we do it right. Players like Fellows, Lennon Miller, Chris Rigg, Diarra from Strasbourg are players we should be looking to recruit. Stories like Vardy don't fill me with much hope. Players like Dcl and doucoure ( who think they are bigger than then club) can go for all I care.
3.) 10 May 2025 13:37:57
Agree totally dentielad mate, very good chance to move some of the oldies on eh.
4.) 10 May 2025 13:41:48
Bang on. It's still going to be fun but it's not going to be the 1 step giant fix some expect. It's going to be a fun progression over the next 4 windows. And in 2 years we should be finally back in track and something like a respectable outfit who on its day gives the top sides a fat lip. Hopefully a Europa league spot by then too. Next seasons expectations must MUST be tempered with some patience and common sense. It's going to be difficult because some expect the moon on a stick.
5.) 10 May 2025 14:25:12
I’d like to see Ndiaye or Alcaraz tried at 10 Gingerdan. My number one would be someone who can score goals - guaranteed 10 goals a season at least. Definitely need a RB and RW also. I’d put our other priority as DCM as if Gueye goes, there’s going to be a void to fill.
Prioritise those 4 areas and get some upcoming players to strengthen the squad and I’ll be happy.
6.) 10 May 2025 15:21:23
Obviously we'll get Haarland, Vinicius Junior, William Saliba and Nico Williams. anything else and Moyes out and TFG out.
People need to get real and understand that small steps are what's needed. Maybe top 10 next season, Europa League the year after before seriously challenging the top 5 within the next five years.
UTFT NSNO IMWT.
23 Jan 2025 22:23:05
Whilst hope the club strengthen this window we’ve got to remember January is a notoriously difficult time to recruit as any decent players will be wanted to be kept by their clubs as no team wants to weaken themselves mid season.
Players that may be available in January is usually because their teams happy to let them go which speaks volumes in itself.
Or they will be overpriced - something we need to try and avoid with our recruitment as has gotten us in to so much trouble previously.
Whilst would hope for a couple of additions, wouldn’t lose my head over no one coming in due to the nature of the January market.
Hopefully the players returning from injury give the squad and fans a boost.
1.) 24 Jan 2025 07:03:38
Yeah GD, always a bit panicky buying in January and ott prices. Be nice if could get a couple in just freshen up the squad and give us fans something but not at any cost. As you say with returning players and general uplift after Spurs win think we should have enough to comfortably stay up especially with the bottom 3 not the strongest. All that could change mind if we get a hammering and bad performance at Brighton.
2.) 24 Jan 2025 07:34:37
Think we are turning the corner, get Tim, Garner and McNeil back will really help us.
3.) 24 Jan 2025 07:37:27
Any good players likely to have several clubs after them too so they hold out for best offers in some cases. Something’ll happen.
30 Dec 2024 10:48:54
Seeing several rumours regarding players being sold in January and possibly one or two to Roma.
However with us now being under the same ownership won’t deals with Roma be quite tricky?
Man Utd were unable to buy Todibo from Nice due to uefa rules relating to multi club ownership.
Surely we’ll be faced with the same issue if we want to do deals between the 2 clubs?
1.) 30 Dec 2024 16:15:10
I think that was because they were both so playing on the europa league dan.
19 Jun 2025 21:14:06
I’m with you Ed.
Whilst £70m is a huge amount of money - in football it’s not that much particularly for a team trying to rebuild.
If the rumours are true regards this Barry bloke and the £35m fee then that’s half the rumoured budget gone already!
Hopefully whatever money is available is used wisely for a change and we buy players in positions we need, who haven’t suffered numerous injuries and are a young enough age which will allow us to if need be re-sell them in the future.
{Ed025's Note - yeah im with you Dan, £70m is just not enough im afraid mate..
19 Jun 2025 19:54:57
Blue_dev Branthwaite has 2yrs left and the club then has an option for a 3rd year.
Good to see the club are trying to get him a new improved deal.
16 Jun 2025 20:40:38
Hopefully it’s Kyle Walker Peters not Kyle Walker who would be an embarrassing signing. 35yr old, legs gone, was terrible for England the other day, is on massive wages and seems a bit of an idiot.
07 Jun 2025 20:00:11
Not so sure on this one, whilst he’s young and raw and has potential to improve currently his returns aren’t great and he’s quite hot headed having been sent off a couple of times.
The rumoured €40m price tag seems quite steep for someone who is not guaranteed to be a starter in the league.
With other areas in the squad in need of more pressing recruitment find it strange a decent sim would be spent on a back up striker - he doesn’t appear to be ready to lead the line for us just yet.
Be interesting to see if any legs to the rumour or just more clickbait.
02 Jun 2025 23:32:44
I think club should go after the players they want and not wait to see what other teams do.
We need to try and get the players we want, if they’re not available then move on to new targets.
But waiting till the last week to save some money could lead to none of the desired targets being available and then either ending up recruiting no one or worse recruiting a player that was never really wanted but is making up the numbers.
Provided we don’t go spending stupid money on players there’s no reason why we can’t be sensible and recruit early if they’re players we want are available.
20 Jun 2025 10:08:14
Definitely think it’s someone just throwing numbers out there.
If we were to sign a few players for a combined £70m and they all had 3yr contracts then for PSR sake that would only be £23.3m spend this window as the fees are amortized over the length of the contract.
Be interesting to see how much we spend - just hope it’s on positions we need and players that will improve us.
17 Jun 2025 14:27:43
He always spoke highly of Harrison so not surprised to see this rumour.
Not sure what Moyes sees in him as not seen anything of substance in the 2yrs he’s been with us that he’s a premier league level winger.
17 Jun 2025 12:11:38
Sorry PSG but every deal carries a financial risk - it’s naive to say otherwise.
17 Jun 2025 09:37:51
It’s all a matter of opinions.
I’d be somewhat underwhelmed by Walker - the rightback area has needed addressing for several seasons not sure why we’re not trying to recruit a decent player into this position rather than another stop gap.
He’s a player on the decline, not sure what motivation he has to do well having pretty much won everything, just screams of a Moshiri era signing - old, big wages, declining player - was hoping we’d move away from this type of recruitment.
As for his pace, he’s definitely no longer rapid.
If we don’t want to spend money on a rightback there are several other ones who will be free agents come July 1st including Coufal, KWP and Tete - would rather either of the latter 2 as there’d be some sell on fee if we decided to move on after a season or two.
13 Jun 2025 20:00:32
Can understand Coufal as he’s on a free, however if we pay the rumoured £15m for Fred I fear we’ve learned no lessons!
Hoping it’s just a nonsense click bait story as doesn’t appear to fit our new recruitment process of younger players with resale value if we were to recruit him.