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05 Dec 2021 13:17:01
Hi Ed’s. Are you able to update us on any transfer incomings/ outgoings going in to January? Thanks in advance.

HugoEFC

{Ed002's Note - Everton are hovering around FFP issues and need to reduce the wage bill and utilise the cheaper or free options available to them (like Begovich, Townsend and Gray this past summer) and face work to extend contracts of some of the 8 who will out contract in the summer. They had a huge James Rodriguez issue that has now been resolved and 10 players aged 30 or more in the squad. Money will be very tight after a £140M loss last season pushing debt up to more than £400M. Mosiri continues to supplement the club up to the FFP limit but they will be structured as loans and have been partially used to reduce debt - which is a good thing.

I cannot sensibly discuss the timing of transfers:

Possible Outgoings:
Jordan Pickford (G) has been recommended to Spurs.
Andy Lonergan (G) Out of contract in the summer.
Asmir Begovic (G) Out of contract in the summer.
Jonjoe Kenny (RB) Out of contract in the summer.
Yerry Mina (CB) Will be available at the right price. It will be difficult to find a buyer willing to pay a significant amount for him but Fiorentina may offer an option as they look for a Nikola Milenkovic replacement. If Inter were to lose Bastoni, and they are hoping they don't, they might look to him. Milan know that Kjaer will be moving on an provide a more viable option. Could potentially leave as early as January. Everton will look for €20M but may have to settle for far less.
Jarrad Braithwaite (CB) Out of contract in the summer.
Fabian Delph (CM) Out of contract in the summer.
Tom Davies (CM) is seen as an option for Crystal Palace if they are unable to secure the permanent signing of Conor Gallagher which is most unlikely. Davies is not being used by the Everton coach and will need to consider his options.
Allan (CM/DM) The player has shared a desire to return to Italy and Everton are looking at options for midfield over the next two windows and have a couple of players in mind. The sale of Allen would depend on the price which is falling away and clubs accepting a player who will by then be 31. It might be tough to find a buyer.
Gyfli Sigurdsson (AM) Out of contract in the summer.
Cenk Tosun (S) Out of contract in the summer.
Dominic Calvert-Lewin (S) with Everton in need of adding a striker the chances of DCL being sold unless a very significant offer arises are small. However, Arsenal are still looking for a striker and interest remains. The Real Madrid coach has said he is one of the rare English players who he thinks would take to football on the continent - so there may be interest. Other clubs looking for a striker such as Spurs have other preferred options. Manchester United may also provide an option.

Some interest in:
Daniel Munoz (RB) Fiorentina saw him as an option to Zappacosta but ended up taking a loan of Odriozola and will return to Munez in 2022. Everton will perhaps offer an option if funds allow - there have been previous discussions wth Genk. Work permit could be an issue in England.
Harry Souttar (CB) Stoke City would sell at the right price but the interest of Burnley and Everton will have gone after he suffered a Cruciate Ligament Rupture.
Gleison Bremer (CB) Carlo Ancelotti tried to take him to Napoli and that sparked the interest of Brands at Everton - but a Work Permit was seen as an issue unless paying over the odds. First choice for Everton still if Mina goes - but it would not be an attractive option for the player who wants to be playing at a higher level. If Mina stays nothing will likely happen - but I think he will move on. Previously of interest to Leicester and Liverpool but both opted for others. Is of interest to Inter Milan who fear losing Alessandro Bastoni in the summer of 2022. Juventus have him on a list of options should the lose de LIgt in the summer but there are certainly a couple ahead of him. Clubs have been scouting him as they expect him to be available in the summer as he has so far refused a new contract. Won't be moving to Everton.
Samuel Umtiti (CB) decision is that he has dropped to the bottom the list of Barcelona CBs making chances slim that he would ever be a regular - released from his contract. Zenit offered an option in the summer but the player insisted he wanted to stay at Barcelona. Benfica had an offer accepted by the club but the player rejected. He can now join a club as a Free Agent in January with Milan providing an option and Everton keeping an eye on the situation as they want to replace Mina.
Harry Winks (DM/CM) Spurs told interested sides in the summer that he was not for sale but if the player were to ask to leave the coach would be supportive of that. Aston Villa moved on from Pape Sarr and made an enquiy about his availability in the summer - that interest may remain. If West Ham were to sell Rice they might offer an option - as perhaps Manchester United might as a possible Matic replacement. Leicester might also be a possible destination if they were to lose Ndidi, but they have a preferred target in mind. Southampton have declared an interest. He would provide an interesting option for Everton but they would need departures first.
Gonzalo Villar (CM) It has not worked out for the player in Rome and his agent is being asked to find him a new club. Tentative approaches have been made to a number of mid-table Spanish sides but they have no interest at a €12M asking price for a player who would largely be a fringe player. This has prompted the player being offered to at least Newcastle and Everton in the Premier League.
Sean Longstaff (CM) Newcastle fear losing him as a Free Agent so may be open to a January sale. Everton and possibly Leicester offer options.
Aaron Ramsey (CM) will be 31 by January and has been available for a while. Juventus are willing to release him from his contract at any time and his agent and a better known third party are working hard to find him a new home - the problem will be agreeing a salary package for a player who is now become a bit part player at Juventus. He may well have proven to be a reasonable Wijnaldum replacement at his best but those days appear gone and I am not aware of Liverpool looking to him but the supporters keep asking. May be difficult to find a home for but Juventus had hoped Paratici would be interested in taking him to Spurs - but that was not the case. There was an enquiry from West Ham, possibly at the prompting of his agent. His agent has more recently spoken with Everton who are hovering around FFP issues and need to reduce the wage bill and utilise the cheaper or free options available to them (like Begovich, Townsend and Gray this summer) and face work to extend contracts of some of the 8 who will out contract in the summer. If something could be done to keep the wages reasonable he may provide a solution for them in midfield. Newcastle have been approached by his agent but have no need for such a player although they fear losing Sean Logstaff in the summer. Juventus were quoting €10M for him in the summer - now they want his wages off the books. If they cannot find a club to pick the player up as a Free Agent, they could end up negotiating to buy him out of the rest of his contract and he could end up in a similar position to Jack Wilshere.
Donny van de Beek (CM) Everton and Wolves provide options for a loan - his agent is also looking for other options and he has been offered through a third party to Barcelona and Juventus. Manchester United will now let him leave in the summer but the player wants out in January if possible and that may suit Juve. The player wants Real Madrid if possible. Manchester United may well block that and again hold another player hostage with his value likely to have halved from what they paid for him. They will want a sale not a loan.
Iddrisu Baba (CM/DM) has a huge €45M buy out clause but Real Mallorca will cash in at a lower fee to raise funds - but 50% of the fee will be owed to Leganes. Benitez would like to take him to Everton but funds could be a problem without sales - perhaps an Allan replacement.
Angelo Fulgini (CM/AM) Feyenoord had an offer rejected last summer. Southampton, Burnley, Fulham and Everton have looked at the player.
Ross Barkley (AM/CM) will be available for sale. Newcastle offered an option if they could not sign Willock. The thought is that Leeds, West Ham or Everton may offer a loan option. Burnley may offer a loan with an option to buy. Knuckle-dragging bonehead Chelsea want shot of.
Isco (AM) Everton has asked about a January loan. Seems unlikely.
Jesse Lingard (AM) Needs to move on. Everton, Newcastle and West Ham may offer options.
Emre Tezgel (S) 16 year old striker attracting the attention of Manchester City, Everton and Chelsea. There is a huge complication which means the clubs need to tread very carefully.
Sardar Azmoun (F) Out of contract in the summer and available as a Free Agent. Emerging as an option for Everton to replace either Calvert-Lewin or Richarlison if either were to leave. Prior interest of Leicester, Lazio, PSV, Liverpool and Marseille has gone - but he been playing very well for Zenit and that has also attracted the interest of Milan and West Ham. Expect a move this summer.
Daniel Jebbison (S) Everton had an offer rejected in the summer but could return with another. Brighton and Union Berlin have a declared interest in the Canadian.
Luka Jovic (S) there was the option to return to Eintract Frankfurt on a loan with an obligation to buy but it depended on selling Andre Silva and not replacing him - but they opted for the well thought of Rafael Borre. Milan have a sustained interest but have opted for a cheaper solution. Inter wanted to take him as cover but they have much preferred options but if they can offload Sanchez he becomes viable. Was offered to West Ham but nothing came of it. A third party enquired on behalf of Arsenal but come the end of the summer window there was no space for him - could return for him as a Lacazette replacement, and that would not be a surprise. Roma were offered him but the coach turned him Real Madrid will offer him in part exchange for others. Everton could be open to discussions but I am not aware of an approach just yet.


1.) 05 Dec 2021 15:06:53
Thanks Ed. Great insight. Enjoy the rest of your day.


 

 

03 Dec 2021 16:32:20
Hi Ed’s. Do you have any info regarding Calvert-Lewin being linked with Arsenal? Thank you.

HugoEFC

{Ed025's Note - no hugo, its just speculation as this time mate..


1.) 03 Dec 2021 17:07:21
Thanks ed, much appreciated. Hope it stays that way!

{Ed025's Note - yeah mate, if you start selling your best players you are in big trouble mate..


2.) 03 Dec 2021 18:06:46
Im not so sure about that Ed. Bought him for £1.5 mill, sell him for say £60mill, that's a huge profit and the model we should be aiming for (self-sustainable etc. ) . My issue would be trusting these with that sort of money.


3.) 03 Dec 2021 19:53:09
Could strategy Hugo, we have a ready made replacement in Rondon. Also sell Richarlison, we have a ready made replacement in Iwobi. Also sell Mina, we can use Holgate. How about Doucoure, we could use Davies instead. We should be the richest club in the Championship.


4.) 03 Dec 2021 20:25:13
You reinvest the funds in other players with ambition, a high ceiling and sell-on value, Michael. We’ve tried the ‘sign 28+ year old’ route and, now, we’re here. Hence why I said I’m not sure I trust the current set-up with that much money.


5.) 03 Dec 2021 20:30:48
Haha exactly BM.


6.) 04 Dec 2021 11:44:18
There current players and even our better ones have to share some responsibility for this mess. If we can trade players for profit then we will be in a better place than we are now. Other clubs seem to be able to work this business model but they go out and seek the best people. We just have an old boys club. We wouldn't know what the best lined like if it came and slapped us in the face.


 

 

04 Oct 2021 13:13:12
Hi Ed, are you aware of any updates regarding Mina and a new contract? Think he’s unsellable with the way he’s playing at the moment.

HugoEFC

{Ed002's Note - Yerry Mina (CB) He is available at the right price. It will be difficult to find a buyer willing to pay a significant amount for him but Fiorentina may offer an option as they look for a Nikola Milenkovic replacement. If Inter were to lose Bastoni, and they are hoping they don't, they might look to him. Could potentially leave as early as January.}


1.) 04 Oct 2021 14:03:58
I thought that he played pretty well against United and he seems committed to me. Who exactly is going to replace him? I think at we need to keep him until next summer unless Rafa has a gem identified to replace him. He is not the worse option we have at center-back at the moment.

{Ed002's Note - Everton will not know who will replace him at this time but they are looking at players.}


2.) 04 Oct 2021 14:45:42
Thanks Ed002, your knowledge of the game always amazes me.


3.) 04 Oct 2021 18:14:27
One rumoured replacement is Harry Souttar from Stoke. didn't think he was good enough for them, nevermind us.


4.) 04 Oct 2021 16:46:04
Shame. He’s been playing so well of late. Thanks Ed. I've heard we’re looking at Harry Souttar from Stoke. Unit!

{Ed002's Note - Yes he is being looked at. Mina wants to move on.}


5.) 05 Oct 2021 07:03:41
Is giving branthwaitte more playing time not an option? With him we have 4 CBs although 3 would be you get players.

{Ed002's Note - Possibly Chris but departures will likely be covered by arrivals.}


 

 

04 Oct 2021 13:13:12
Hi Ed, are you aware of any updates regarding Mina and a new contract? Think he’s unsellable with the way he’s playing at the moment.

HugoEFC

{Ed002's Note - Yerry Mina (CB) Available at the right price. It will be difficult to find a buyer willing to pay a significant amount for him but Fiorentina may offer an option as they look for a Nikola Milenkovic replacement. If Inter were to lose Bastoni, and they are hoping they don't, they might look to him. Could potentially leave as early as January.}


 

 

27 Aug 2021 08:08:46
Hi Ed’s. The Richarlison to PSG rumours don't seem to want to go away. Are you able to tell us any more about the situation? Thank you.

HugoEFC

{Ed002's Note - Simply put his agent, Bertolucci, is offering Richarlison to PSG. As of this time PSG have not spoken with Everton as I understand it. A third party will assist in trying to get the transfer progressed but there is no guarantee it will happen. As I have explained previously, Richarlison's agent has offering him around and has also spoken with Atletico Madrid, Milan and Fiorentina - no doubt amongst others. Real Madrid could be open to the idea of taking him having lost out on another player but their focus will remain on Mbappe. Everton may be open to selling at the right price but finding a buyer may prove difficult if the price is too high - and account needs to be taken how late it now is in terms of the transfer window - with many prior targets not available and Moise Kean working hard to get out of the club.}


1.) 27 Aug 2021 08:39:21
Thanks Ed. Terrible to lose him this late in the window without time to get a proper replacement in.

{Ed002's Note - It is a problem that comes up every year Hugo. It is also the reason a lot of clubs block moves at the end of the window. Kean will, I am sure, be gone in the next day or so.}


2.) 27 Aug 2021 09:15:36
Thats true, Ed. I suppose this is happening as a reaction to Mbappe going to Madrid so late, if it happens. Is Kean going back to Juventus or are they just online rumours?

{Ed002's Note - Richarlison has been offered around all summer.}


3.) 27 Aug 2021 10:31:28
What’s a good price for Richarlison? £80m+ surely? Even more? Everton will surely ask for at least that maybe even £100m at this stage? Cannot see it happening to be honest, but I would imagine next summer he will go.


4.) 27 Aug 2021 10:01:31
Hi Ed are wee looking at anyone to replace moise Kean? If. Richarlison where to go who would we be able to to get in to replace him too?

{Ed002's Note - Everton are looking for a striker but not as a Kean replacement as he has been on loan. Given the pretty dire financial problems Everton face they will need to sell to raise funds and the majority of the players interest has been shown in are no longer available to Everton. Interest remains in a few others:
Salomon Rondon (S) makes zero sense but could arrive as a Free Agent. I think it very unlikely but his club could release him and of course RB knows him well. I can't see it happening.
Haris Seferovic (S) Will be allowed to leave Benfica to raise funds. Everton have asked after him and he does have a good goalscoring record but nobody has ever seemed convined by him. Makes zero sense and doubtful.
Daryl Dike (S/F) Orlando City are open to selling the Barnsley loanee for a good price but one scout who was asked to watch him described him as clumsy. Barnsley have an option to buy. Leeds, Wolves and Bayer Leverkusehave spoken with Orlando City and others including Everton and Brighton have sent scouts to watch him. Leeds may press ahead with a bid. Could be a missed opportunity for Everton.
Daniel Jebbison (S) Sheffield United say they have rejected a low offer from Everton amid interest from Leeds. This transfer is certaionly doable for Everton.
Neal Maupay (S) Marseille had an approach for the player rebuffed by Brighton but that could be back on the table if Brighton sign a replacement in a timely manner. There have been suggestions that Everton are keen although I am not aware of an approach to Brighton just yet - but other targets have for them have fallen away. May have been caught by the West Ham scattergun as well.
Matthew Hoppe (S) American youngster has been advised to stay in Germany when Schalke likely sell him in the summer as it will be in his best interests. However, he has attracted interest from a number of sides including Spurs and the feeling is in the States that FSG might look to having him recruited for Liverpool as he is one of the up-and-coming American players. Everton have looked at him but need to sell first. Brentford have spoken with his agent and with Schalke. Certainly, clubs have been scouting him and recent form has been good. I don't see that he would be a starter for any of the leading clubs and unless paying well over the odds a Work Permit may be an issue in England. Doubtful.}


5.) 27 Aug 2021 11:09:47
Not a lot to go on there, either old or clumsy, I’m both and I’m available on a free, but would definitely make zero sense!


6.) 27 Aug 2021 11:50:14
Rafa has just said Richi going nowhere. Right decision as his stock will only go up this season and we don’t have time for suitable replacement.


7.) 27 Aug 2021 11:40:01
Squad will be even thinner if richarlison does go. Hopefully we have an idea of who we could get in as a replacement. I think gray will start on the left wing.

So depending on formation we will need a mobile striker or a cam.

At least Ed says Moise will be gone in the next couple of days.

Do you know anything about James ed? Do you think if he ends up staying he will have any interest in actually playing for us?

{Ed002's Note - Everton have looked at a couple of good options for the LW role but opted for Andros Townsend. If Rodriguez were to get his move then Everton may look at the players again. Without going in to details, the agreement with Everton means options are being considered with his agent trying to squeeze him in at Milan, Atletico or Napoli. Napoli's interest was based on an assumption that Piotr Zielinski would be leaving but they have proiced him out of a move and he will now stay. Atletico have discussed the player at length with his agent and are open to a move but they need funds coming in first - and that is a problem. Milan have him on a list of options they are considering and may yet offer a solution - but he is not the preferred choice. Wants to move on but it is difficult to see alternate options unless Milan or Atletico push. Fiorentina offer an option and Newcastle offer a loan as a stepping stone to freedom for the player.}


8.) 27 Aug 2021 14:47:44
I’d put good money on Richarlison still being an Everton player for this season. Something tells me it’s already been talked over between the club and the player. With that being said if he really wanted away I’d cash in in an instance, again in my opinion it should be nothing less than 70million.


9.) 27 Aug 2021 15:04:34
Wasn’t it said that Everton had agreed to let him play in the olympics if he committed for another season?

Obviously if a big offer comes in or he decided she wants to go that would probably change the stance.


10.) 27 Aug 2021 16:13:51
No Gingerdan I think the agreement was that Richy could go as long as he took it as his holiday, which is why he's back playing so quickly.


 

 

 

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06 Dec 2021 22:43:32
Good win against a poor Arsenal. Think the second disallowed is allowed on a different day, maybe? Gomes sub changed the game for me. That 433 with the players we’ve got works! Still glad the protest happened and sparked the conversation around how the club’s been run for the last few years. Just hope its a turning point now!

HugoEFC

1.) 06 Dec 2021 22:56:11
I think Marcel getting the bullet is what sparked the conversation not the (very few) people leaving their seats.


2.) 06 Dec 2021 23:07:51
You maybe glad Hugo but that protest was the minority and it backfired on them big time if anything it's embarrassing clutching at straws.


3.) 06 Dec 2021 23:11:08
Disagree there, Chris. The conversation was ongoing before Brands went. Since the protest was decided, the issues at board-level have been discussed by every major outlet, including MNF which has a massive audience, as well as the fans. Can only be a good thing. We’ve just got to keep these conversations going and hold the board and manager accountable, and hopegully open up lines of communication with supporters.


4.) 06 Dec 2021 23:19:20
Like Whitty said below very relieved to get a good win against a poor Arsenal side who got nervous once in front
Overall I thought we deserved it but let's not get carried away - it was our first win in 9 games
Gray was superb. Two great shots providing one goal and creating the other for Ricky who also had a good game. Fractional but I did think the other 2 were offside
I don't know what the issue was with Digne - not heard of any fallout. Not even on the bench? I would have thought Godfrey moving back to the middle when Mina was injured and Digne being available on the bench would have better than Holgate (although, to be fair he didn't do anything wrong when he came on)
Did we rush Mina back too early?

Small steps but at least they were forward ones.


5.) 07 Dec 2021 08:08:28
Great win for us last night. It’s got to be said that that walk off was pathetic and most definitely the minority. It was like all 20 of them needed the toilet at the same time. Love how the rest of the proper fans got behind the team whilst this was going on cause at the end of the day that’s what our team needs, our support. Roll on Sunday where I honestly think we’ll get another result being most of our top players are back now. COYB! ?.


6.) 07 Dec 2021 08:22:18
I think what you saw last night was we still have a huge amount of SUPPORTERS still going the game and only a few FICKLE FANS like you Hugo who, when the chips are down, go running.

Well done to the real people who love our club for cheering and singing when those players needed them the most. For the rest of you, I'd prefer you to give your season tickets to those more worthy.


7.) 07 Dec 2021 10:26:44
I don’t know how true it is but I’ve heard Lucas Digne to PSG in January off of a few ….


 

 

04 Dec 2021 21:52:24
I think, given our current situation, my dream manager would be Diego Martinez. Did wonders at Granada, from promotion to La Liga to QF of the Europa with a tight budget and a limited squad. Plays some stuff that I think the crowd at Goodison would really get behind. Is young, ambitious and has spent time in England visitting a load of clubs and learning.

HugoEFC

 

 

02 Dec 2021 14:45:37
Hi Ed002. Understand if you can't share or don't have any info, but do you have any insight as to why/ how the club is so poorly run? We seem like a cowboy outfit from top-to-bottom.

HugoEFC

{Ed002's Note - The change of ownership and the introduction of two advisors to the new owner had a huge impact. Not letting Brands do his job. Letting the owner decide on the managers.}


1.) 02 Dec 2021 14:51:20
Sounds a perfect storm for relegation! Are the club addressing any of these issues in any way you’re aware of?

{Ed002's Note - This is nothing new.}


2.) 02 Dec 2021 15:00:08
Is Brands being allowed to do his job now Ed? His reply to the fan having a go at him saying "is it just the players" has me thinking not?

{Ed002's Note - Not entirely.}


3.) 02 Dec 2021 15:10:40
Thanks Ed. I understand they aren't new issues, but I think that's the point, how does everyone else in the footballing sphere see these issues but not the people who can do something about it.


4.) 02 Dec 2021 15:12:30
On this depressing day, is their any good news. PLEASE ANYTHING :)


5.) 02 Dec 2021 15:45:54
What players has Brands brought to the club? I have no idea which players he purchased that have been flops or successful. A lot of blame is being layed at his doorstep from the fans but when he arrived I thought he was going to develop a style of play for Everton from underage to senior team. I have no idea what his role is or how he is being hindered, so if anyone or eds know can they share?


6.) 02 Dec 2021 16:53:34
I always thought the same, Joe. But I was shocked to read last week that he has only just got the youth set up playing the same formation as the 1st team. How long has he been here now? That should have been done a long time ago.


7.) 02 Dec 2021 19:58:00
Well Bobslad I was declared clear of bladder cancer ???.

{Ed025's Note - good on ya mate..


8.) 02 Dec 2021 18:53:57
playing the same system as the first team yesterday u23s got beat 3-0 at finch farm by Peterborough.


9.) 02 Dec 2021 20:35:12
Great news that mate. Wish you all the best.


10.) 02 Dec 2021 19:56:09
Ed002 mainly but I and others warned about non football advusors having the ear of Moshri. Not going down that road again but the point about Brands still having his role curtailed us an important one. The bloke has just signed a renewal/ extension, would he have done that without assurances! Personally I think not, which logically means ge was lied to. You all already know my thoughts on BK and I stand by those. The Club us a mess. Son in Law (a Red) saud on way home 'it was toxic in there' I replied 'it wasn't as good as that'. Players are protected from us emotional old farts opinions but just once I wish the Club would make them sit in a room with us and hear a few home truths.


11.) 02 Dec 2021 20:46:06
Brilliant news mate.


12.) 02 Dec 2021 22:58:35
And it's my birthday.

{Ed025's Note - happy birthday mate..


13.) 02 Dec 2021 23:49:09
BP How long has who been with us now? Brands or the 1st team manager Rafa? Rafa only 5 months so it should be little surprise that Brands has only just instructed the U23's what formation to use in the last 5 months. Maybe, like us, he was trying to understand what tactics, if any, Rafa wants to use
Every manager we have had the last 5 years (and there's been many) has had different tactics, the U23's have to know how to play to these tactics and to all the different formations used during matches

Stop being shocked and trying to make out Brands is the only problem we have.


14.) 02 Dec 2021 23:59:09
Thanks Ed.


15.) 03 Dec 2021 00:48:35
BW, your constant sniping at me is getting pretty tedious, mate. How many posts now?
I'm allowed an opinion and I'm allowed to reply to other people without you trying to enforce your own view. Don't like what I say? Feel free to scroll on, pal.


16.) 03 Dec 2021 01:37:59
Of course you are allowed an opinion BP but I struggle with the lack of consistency.

In some posts its everybody is allowed mistakes, As long as we are on the right track its OK
In others it we are not on the right track yet but we are trying to get on it so everything is OK
This is after 5 years of mismanagement!

But Brands = you are shocked that he didn't have the U23 playing the same formation as the first team when they need to be schooled on all formations and Rafa isn't playing the same one each week anyway

I don't know where you are coming from. Why don't you tell us what we have done or are doing wrong as a club?

We probably agree on 90% of it. The 10% we don't agree on? I think the board should be held accountable - you think we should just wash it under the table.


17.) 03 Dec 2021 09:20:56
No, BW. I realised this morning where it's all come from. Last week, I called you out for telling GB that you don't want him to post rumours or injuries on here!
You twist my words to suit your narrative. I've repeatedly told you what I was getting at but you ignore it. Have a nice day, I'll scroll past your posts from now on. No talking or debating with people like you.


18.) 03 Dec 2021 13:16:38
I'm sorry you feel that way bluepotato but all I have done is disagree with some of what you have said and questioned when you change your version of what you have said which I have every right to do and will continue to do. I still think we agree on a lot more than we disagree on and hope that shows in future posts by both of us. You have a nice day and let's hope we both see a better Everton in the days to come
NSNO COYB.


19.) 03 Dec 2021 13:46:16
No, BW, there's at least 4 posts were you childishly throwing 'it is what it is' or 'WE Fans can't do anything'. All out of context but you continue to use it in comments on posts that I'm not even part of!
There's no changing, you just don't want to get my point no matter how many times I try to explain it to you. As I said in the post above, this has all stemmed from a comment I made to you when you were calling out GB. But you've chosen to ignore that too.
If you want to debate things like an adult then that's fine, we will have differing views on certain things. But let's keep it civil rather than the juvenile comments in any post you reply to.


20.) 03 Dec 2021 14:27:27
Who was it who said It Is What It Is and we shouldn't complain?
Why is what I say is out of context. Did you say it or didn't you or are you saying yes I said it but I meant to say something else

What has that got to do with me asking GB not to post so many 'press rumours' which are mostly unverified garbage

Please - let's debate things as an adults and you try and be consistent in your posts - not changing every time like a child who has been caught stealing from the cookie jar.


21.) 03 Dec 2021 18:27:17
Answers are in the replies, BW. Not going over old ground, yet again, with you.
Call me a child all you like but at least see the hypocricy in your own posts. Gb's post is crucial to your recent trolling behaviour. You didn't like it when called out and you have been trying to cause an argument with me ever since. And he, like the rest of us, can post what we like.
End of conversation with you, Bw, I've got better things to do with my time. I come on here to talk and debate with other supporters, not to argue with people.


 

 

02 Dec 2021 14:44:15
Gobsmacked by the support Benitez is getting. We’ve not won in 2 months. didn't score (! ) in November. His tactics are poor and outdated. Been dealt a bad hand, but a bad hand didn't force him to play 2 in the middle against a 433 and a False 9. Completely over-run in midfield. that's on him and no one else. It isn't ideal that we’d have to sack another manager, but that's a terrible excuse to not get rid of a poor one.

HugoEFC

1.) 02 Dec 2021 23:54:56
Agree Hugo but we signed him on a 3 year contract on a salary which is up there in the top 10 of Europe without, as far as we know any escape clauses for poor performance

Sacking him would mean over £20 million plus any payments to his team - all losses affecting our FFP performance

It's us that have been dealt the bad hand - by our owner/ directors.


 

 

28 Aug 2021 18:36:05
Early doors yet but I’ll put my hand up and admit fully that I was wrong about Rafa (so far) . Best we’ve looked for a while!

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05 Dec 2021 21:58:56
Great post EFCONE. I’ve seen a few of GB’s posts and Rafa and Moshiri are off-limits for criticism it seems so tread wisely! Rafa needs gone: 4th worst manager in our history and our worst run in 22 years. How can anyone justify that?

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05 Dec 2021 15:06:53
Thanks Ed. Great insight. Enjoy the rest of your day.

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04 Dec 2021 18:47:09
Thats from ‘footyinsider’ so would take thar with a pinch of salt.

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03 Dec 2021 20:25:13
You reinvest the funds in other players with ambition, a high ceiling and sell-on value, Michael. We’ve tried the ‘sign 28+ year old’ route and, now, we’re here. Hence why I said I’m not sure I trust the current set-up with that much money.

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03 Dec 2021 18:06:46
Im not so sure about that Ed. Bought him for £1.5 mill, sell him for say £60mill, that's a huge profit and the model we should be aiming for (self-sustainable etc. ) . My issue would be trusting these with that sort of money.

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06 Dec 2021 23:11:08
Disagree there, Chris. The conversation was ongoing before Brands went. Since the protest was decided, the issues at board-level have been discussed by every major outlet, including MNF which has a massive audience, as well as the fans. Can only be a good thing. We’ve just got to keep these conversations going and hold the board and manager accountable, and hopegully open up lines of communication with supporters.

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06 Dec 2021 16:10:03
We will literally never know if any manager would do better. What I can tell you is he is a stubborn, hasbeen manager who’s ideas don't fit in to modern football, on top of everything else I’ve said. Love it or hate it, this is football in 2021. He’s still in 2005.

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06 Dec 2021 16:06:38
Im fully behind it. i'm not going to judge anyone who doesn't support or takr part, but we are passively edging towards a terminal spiral. Moshiri has to understand that.

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06 Dec 2021 13:40:20
Hey GB. Appreciate the response mate. I’d love some of your optimism! I appreciate that chopping and changing managers all the time isn't good for the club, but I think admitting that Rafa has been a bad one and to cut our losses is even worse. The table doesn't lie, neither does our worst home derby-defeat in years, worst run in 22 years and statistically being the 4th worst manager in our history. Is Moshiri a Godsend, or is his money?

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05 Dec 2021 15:54:12
We are a disaster from top-to-bottom.

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