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31 Jan 2021 17:22:00
Ed - why would Everton let 3 strikers leave on loan and leave us with only one who has just come back from injury and is going through a little drought

I could understand if we were 10th-14th say but for years we have heard board say they have aspirations of Europe - well surely this is the chance we were waiting for

There surely must be something we are not hearing lined up - it's not like we are free scoring from midfield either.


{Ed025's Note - i would hope we have somone lined up sobs, otherwise its a very strange state of affairs mate..

1.) 31 Jan 2021 19:20:45
Surely we have someone lined up?! It's been very clear that carlo doesn't want to play youngsters/ they're nowhere near good enough so essentially we have no attack minded subs if tosun and Bernard go. Yesterday was a good example of that. Utterly devoid of ideas going forward and the only attacking player on the bench, Gordon, remained on the bench for the entire match. Looking as though we'll only attract players through ancelottis name this summer because European qualification seems pretty unlikely. Does make you wonder about the ffp situation though because surely we won't be able to spend loads again and it's not like any of our unwanted players are particularly saleable.

2.) 31 Jan 2021 20:31:09
Last day syndrome yet again while I understand the need to reduce overheads can it really be considered at the expense of any ambitions the manager has?

3.) 31 Jan 2021 20:45:54
Ed025 leaving it all to late I think! It’s like the clear out has clouded issues with squad players performance and form.

{Ed025's Note - it is late wakka and thats certainly a worry, but it looks like the main strategy was to get as many fringe players off the books as they could, i can see the point but its a concern when we see 2 keepers on the bench and the lack of attacking strength we have mate..



22 Jan 2021 14:21:38
Vardy out for EFC game.


1.) 22 Jan 2021 20:33:26
And with DeBruyne out for 4-6 weeks it would be good to reschedule that in during that time.

2.) 22 Jan 2021 22:07:31
IF we are going to go anywhere in this league, we need to stop worrying about opposition players and concentrate more on strengthening our team. TOP 6 for me is a minimum.

3.) 22 Jan 2021 22:43:30
You need an element of luck to win a trophy and good fortune to win a league.
Maybe the above is luck turning in our favour. don't dismiss it.

4.) 23 Jan 2021 14:17:10
I’d much rather play city without debruyne than with him as I’m sure they’d rather face us without James etc you’ve got to take advantages when they present themselves that’s all I was saying stay well stay safe blues UTFT.

5.) 24 Jan 2021 14:04:55
We do have injuries too you know.

6.) 27 Jan 2021 13:18:55
Not sure if Teams would rather face us without James. Him playing on the right gives Teams a free run down their left. Play him through the middle with Iwobi as RWB and that is a more solid option.



26 Jan 2019 23:11:20
Summer hols can't come quick enough. This is turning into a disaster. Season is over for me. Would you give silva anymore millions if it was your money?
Trouble is, we are still paying Sam and Ronald and would be paying 4 managers if we sack Silva.

it's embarrassing and no real solution - giving people time is fine if showing signs of improvement but we look awful / no balance at all. I have no idea how to solve this - surely can't go back to drawing board again.


1.) 27 Jan 2019 08:33:58
Random question not everton related but seen as your names Newcastle if the eds allow I'll ask. Never been out in Newcastle before and going there with the missus in 2 weeks where would u recommend for food.

{Ed025's Note - not sure about the food johny but i have been there a few times and the big market or quay side are the best drinking haunts mate..

2.) 27 Jan 2019 13:02:41
Quayside mate - don’t take your misses anywhere else. Loads of bars and restaurants so just have a walk about and you will find loads. Aim for just below Tyne Bridge - that’s the best area.
Whatever you do - don’t end up in Sunderland;)



12 Jul 2017 23:32:37
The cherry (s) on top of the cream on top of the cake:

Luke Shaw (difficult one as he needs game time and this would push Baines out - but 6 million - great price)

Dzeko / Benteke / Girioud - personally I'd rather Dembele - but its a 45 million gamble but we have Rooney / ramirez. Dzeko and Giroud would only be around for 2 seasons.

Sigurtson - love it if we got him in exchange for Barkley. I think given its World Cup year Barkley has to be playing / I think we will get sigurtson and Swansea need to replace him. Good deal all round (he won't play at spurs and will always be under Ali's shadow.

I'd be happy with left back, sigurtson and benteke/ dembele.

Be dreaming if we got gray on top of that.


1.) 13 Jul 2017 07:27:52
wont get Luke Shaw for 6 million in todays market, maybe 15, Giroud all day long, 98 goals in five seasons and not a regular starter, doesn't rely on pace so age is irrelevant as you would get 4 years not 2, Ross wouldn't go to swansea if that's what you were on about mate, i'm not arsed if we pay 50 million for Sig as would improve us hugely.



05 Jul 2017 22:25:39
Lakaku reported to be in talks with Man Utd since 9pm today.

I would rather he went to Chelsea as I think Man U are one of the teams we could overtake -.


1.) 05 Jul 2017 22:50:21
him and pogba are very good friends tho, on hols together, maybe he wants to prove mourinho wrong as well

personally i don't give a toss where he goes, we are emerging as a very strong team / squad.

2.) 05 Jul 2017 23:02:51
Bang on Dixie.

3.) 05 Jul 2017 23:15:33
90th minute next season lukaku misses a sitter we hit them on the break sandro puts rooney 1 on 1 an the mighty blues take all 3 points 😂😅😂.

4.) 06 Jul 2017 06:17:23
there is a guy who walks his dog in the local park where i walk mine (sefton park) he works for efc altho i don't recognise him or his initials he told me in feb that lukaku was going to move to manu only probs is rom himself he wants chelsea so now all the talk is rom is going to manu and they are going to add wayne to the deal as long as we are prepared to pay his 250 aweek wages if you say it out loud it doesn't make sense first off we would not pay that much for rooney secondly why would we swap or deal only to get the short end of the stick i have no doubt that manu want rom they might even get him but the rest is just crap i don't see him getting more than 100-120 a week at efc and that's a stretch is kind of odd that it is the sun that broke this crap i mean story yesterday can't imagine where they are getting there headline grabbing storys from this is rumour mongering at its worst their is no way any newspapers actually no what's going on during any negotiations and if rooney is going to be an efc player its because its what wayne wants not because of rom or how much efc will pay him.

5.) 06 Jul 2017 07:24:53
Lukaku wants Champions League football. Well as I see it, seven teams will be vying for the four spots next season and none of them are a shoe in. I include Everton in the seven. If he doesn't want to be part of the revelotion then more fool him. If he wants guaranteed Champions League football, sign for Celtic. Let's get as much as we can for him and Barkley and enjoy what's coming. COYB. IKWT.

{Ed002's Note - He wants to play at the highest level and be challenging for league titles and playing in the Champions League regularly.Everton cannot offer that.}

6.) 06 Jul 2017 08:49:49
I'm not going to lie, I'll be gutted when he goes - regardless of where it is! You can't knock a player for having ambition and being driven toward success. Unfortunately, I feel that we just aren't where we need to be just yet to keep a player like him. I've no doubt that in a couple of seasons that we will, just not right at this moment - c'est la vie!

Good luck to the lad anyway, and we will move onwards and upwards 😊.

{Ed025's Note - i dont have a problem with him leaving either pierre, i wish he would keep his mouth shut at times but i have no axe to grind with him...good luck rom but i think you may have left a bit too soon as you could have been a part of something big..

7.) 06 Jul 2017 09:07:55
Celtic will guarantee him titles Ed and also Champions League, if he is as good as he thinks he is then he could do it even at a club that is not the elitist when it comes to challenging for the Champions League title.

{Ed025's Note - i dont know how celtic come in to it gray?.. :)

8.) 06 Jul 2017 09:17:50
I get what you're saying Ed regarding him keeping his mouth shut mate, some of the stuff he says is just in jest though to be fair.

{Ed025's Note - it always seems that when he,s away with the belgian squad he has a little pop at the club pierre, no biggie though just a tad disrespectful..

9.) 06 Jul 2017 08:54:23
ED02 is their any reason we can't offer champions league in the near future as top 4 is the aim next season as for him going to UTD I still think he will end up at Chelsea Mourinho didn't rate him and sold him while at Chelsea so with him wanting Morata why would he also want Lukaku.

{Ed002's Note - Right now it would be very difficult for Everton to break in to the top four and stay their on a consistant basis - even more so to challenge for the league. I have no idea why you think Mourinho didn't rate Lukaku at Chelsea - that is simply not true.}

10.) 06 Jul 2017 10:04:06
I think our aim is to consistently challenge top 4 although I know winning the league is out of our grasp just now regarding Lukaku and Mourinho my thinking was he sent him out on loan twice then he must of agreed to the sale for him to leave. in all honesty the sooner he leaves the better great goalscorer but his all round play isn't fantastic and he won't get away with as much as he did with us.

11.) 06 Jul 2017 11:25:03
no you can't knock a player for wanting cl football but how many of us would give up everything we have for a little bit more or the promise thereof utd have locked themselves into playing rom now they have they're man and will have to play around him. not good imho utd will again have to change the way they play to accommodate rom smacks of inconsistency in the coming season. how long before the nonsense that has ruled his time at goodison starts at old trafford. give him a year like he did with us and see if he still wants chelsea move glad this chapter of our history is closed roll on the next.




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13 Oct 2021 13:00:23
EFC website says DCL, Coleman and Richardson back in October - any ideas if fit for the hammers?


1.) 13 Oct 2021 18:31:30
Hopefully Coleman will be back because our biggest problem is full-back. Why we let Nkounkou out on loan when we lost Small is anyones guess. Putting centre-backs in at full-back is a disaster and we could have two against the hammers.

2.) 13 Oct 2021 19:03:16
Ah Thierry Small…… missed opportunity of some first team football!



10 Oct 2021 19:17:52
Smith - Rafa was on 12 million a year in China - he can put out any statement but he clearly went there for the cash!
I would too - I'm not having a pop at him - I think most of us would go
He could have got job at any championship club at the time and probs half PL (shame he didn't come to us instead of Koeman)
I think / hope he will stay but if he's offered 12 million + a year and can sign players at will I'm sure he will be tempted - end if the day managers want to win - hence Moyes leaving for Man Utd, Carlo leaving for Real.
Maybe the owners will want a bigger name - isn't too many out there - Xavi would be an outside shout for me but the obvious choices - pep, Klopp won't leave - Carlo, conte, Jose, Mancini, Martinez I think have baggage.


1.) 12 Oct 2021 17:28:08
I don't think he had many offers on the table when China came calling tbh, sobs.

2.) 12 Oct 2021 19:00:55
You think he will leave us to go to Newcastle if its all about the money?

3.) 13 Oct 2021 09:38:19
I never thought Carlo would leave. I never thought Moyes would go to Man Ud. Never thought Koeman would be so useless - never thought Martinez would ever be linked to Barcelona job or that we would have Rafa.
Nothing would surprise me- I really hope not as he is up there with Moyes and Kendal for me as top 3 since I’ve been alive
All I’m saying our managers have proven over the years if they get offered a big job they don’t usually stay (EFC should be a top job but shackled with FFP who knows) but 200% I’d be gutted if he leaves.

4.) 13 Oct 2021 11:06:32
I think you are getting yourself worked up over nothing, Sobs. If any of the managers that you mention left after 3 or 4 months then you would have a valid point. Out of them all, CA left to go to a club that he holds dear to himself, allegedly. Rafa has stuck his neck on the line to manage us, given his history with our neighbours, so I can't see him upseeting the apple cart and leaving for Newcastle. If he had been here a year or so and had no backing from the board then it might be a different story. I expect him to be in charge of us for some time to come mate.



09 Oct 2021 07:30:37
The fact Rafa went to China for the cash would worry me he would return to the toon.
He is loved in Newcastle and only left because they wouldn't give him cash to spend.
I would put him a firm favourite for the job - unfortunately he now has a much better chance of silverware and a ridiculous contract offer I'm sure if he were to return
Hi hope he stays - think him and his family are settled but I'm sure Saudi owners will already know who there manager will be and we will find out in next 2-3 days
Hoping this is not a repeat of Carlo but I fear it will be - proven manager popular with the fans and buckets of money to spend.


1.) 09 Oct 2021 09:09:41
He is loved on Merseyside mate.

2.) 09 Oct 2021 11:12:01
Not sure why everyone assumes Newcastle can spend unlimited amounts of money on either transfers or wages. Yes because Ashley has not spent much they will have a reasonable amount to spend but they are still limited by FFP rules just like Moshiri. Can't see Rafa going to Newcastle, they are in a mess and it will take a few seasons for any manager to improve them.

{Ed002's Note - They can request agreement to initially spend more initially as a new owner is coming in (as all clubs can) but they have to work within FFP.}

3.) 09 Oct 2021 11:58:33
Thanks Ed002. What do you think about the Newcastle situation. Is it good or bad for the sport in general?

{Ed002's Note - The previous owner has left them in a very strong position financially and the only real issue is related to one of the partners in the consortium. As long as the Saudi state don't have any direct influence the situation is fine. They need to figure out a plan going forward that really has to start with appointing a Director of Football (and they are well on the way to doing that but they lost out on their first choice from their previous attempt to buy the club) and he will need to define the structure and look to recruit people in to the correct roles - and that will at some point mean a new manager - previously they were looking at Rafa Benitez amongst others). What they don't want to do is simply appoint a manager and expect him to get on with it. And they don't need a "superagent" offering advice and players.}

4.) 09 Oct 2021 12:59:43
Whilst it’s exciting as a fan when a takeover happens it’s not necessarily a route to success as we’ve found out.
Many issues along the way, recruiting right manager, right players, taking appropriate advice as well as staying within ffp.

I’m sure we were the same when moshiri took over thinking we could sign everyone, but do find it funny Newcastle linked with mbappe, haaland, Kane etc.

Not trying to be disrespectful but why would any of those players want to go there? No European football and not challenging top end of league - same as us when we thought we could sign world class players.

Going to be several seasons before Newcastle reap the benefits of the takeover but only if they invest wisely.

Not sure spending £200m+ on players and still being mid table like we did will keep ffp on side for them for a long period. If they learn from some of our mistakes they could do well, but only time will tell.

5.) 09 Oct 2021 18:20:38
He didn't go to China for the money Sobs. There's an interview somewhere where he explains he went to China as he didn't have any other viable offers at the time. Newcastle weren't going to give him what he needed to compete and he wanted to stay in work so off he went.

6.) 09 Oct 2021 18:29:58
It's going to be tough for Newcastle and especially their fans. I just can't see this one being the solution for them. I think the fans will have very different expectations to what will actually happen. It will take a good few yrs for this to work. Yrs ago they could've bought the world in 1 window and go for the league the next season. Its just going to take a lot longer these days and ffp will enter the equation soon enough for them in the coming yrs. I just can't see anything other than its for someones benefit rather than a dream start for the fans.

7.) 09 Oct 2021 18:08:03
Was that a little dig towards us ed02? ?.

{Ed002's Note - Of course not - Everton has an owner putting in £200M per window according to the Everton fans.}

8.) 09 Oct 2021 18:13:53
If the Chairman of PFF is first in line to the Saudi Throne and thus second in command of the Saudi State just how on this Earth is the State not having any direct influence.

{Ed002's Note - You are just losing the plot over this I am afraid.}

9.) 09 Oct 2021 20:06:59
Thanks Ed002 appreciate you insight,

10.) 09 Oct 2021 22:16:55
Who is in control, who sits in the chair besides platini .

{Ed002's Note - I am in control an omnipotent.]

11.) 10 Oct 2021 09:55:36
Think you can get pills from the doc for that these days Ed002….

12.) 10 Oct 2021 10:24:00
Agree their biggest problem GingerDan is trying not to over spending on players required to challenge the top 6.
Everyone knows they have money so all the quality players are going to want a sizeable chunk to brave the near baltic conditions of Newcastle and their project.

13.) 11 Oct 2021 21:15:21
Newcastle (and others for that matter) are currently under the Prem fair play rules, in a much better position than our (I think) approx 110 percent over profit loss allowance. I would not expect any outlays before next summer on the player front.

14.) 11 Oct 2021 21:33:16
Fact we have one of the richest men in the World involved with Everton (huge backing with his own personal fortune and also on board Politically with probably the second most powerful man on Earth) , Yet still has to abide by Prem Fair Play rules. It is what it is.



01 Oct 2021 18:04:18
Any idea if Coleman, Richarlison or DCL will play tomorrow?


1.) 01 Oct 2021 19:45:05
From what I read all 3 are out but are back in training and should be available after international break.

2.) 02 Oct 2021 07:35:07
Going to be a tough watch today I think with those three out - hoping Gray and Townsend may have some luck. I think Shaw is out.
Good bet on Sky for Keane to have a header on target - think it’s 10/ 1 - with McGuire out I think that’s a decent shout.



28 Sep 2021 09:58:52
Couple of myths I've read on here last few days:
Best chance of Europe is to win a cup - that's not right. Best chance it's to come in the top 7 in league - much better odds. I'd much rather win the cup and not even be in Europe but our best chance of getting into Europe is definitely the league which we have done 3-4 times in PL hx

We normally struggle against the lower teams - our record against the top 4-6 is absolutely shocking - it's the top clubs we struggle against - barely pick up any points - our record against the lower teams is significantly better than top 4-6. I think from 7-20 our record will be roughly the same against all these clubs but what stops us getting into Europe almost every year is not picking up points at Spurs, Utd, City, Chelsea, Liverpool (although I'm hoping we started to change that last season) .

I think Rafa will make us hard to beat and will have a game plan against these teams - I think that's why he wanted 5 at the back for these games - I wonder if we will return to that system for Utd game (maybe they are working on it in training) - it was pretty poor against Burnley though so would be brave decision.


1.) 28 Sep 2021 10:28:30
Sorry sobs but think wining a cup is best chance of Europe.

Only have to win 6 games. Also with the draw you could potentially miss out on any of the top teams with the draw.

Finishing top 7 is much harder as got to be consistent over 38 games.

Also you’ve got city, Liverpool, Utd and Chelsea who will more than likely be top 4 so then competing with the likes of West Ham, arsenal, spurs, Leicester and currently Brighton and any other team that does well for only 3 places.

The betting odds may be shorter on finishing top 7 but that doesn’t necessarily mean it’s easier.

Would love us to finish in the top 7 and get European football but think with our squad it will be a challenge as a few more injuries and could be in big trouble.

If we’re still up and around the top 7 cone Christmas then let’s hope we invest wisely and push on for finishing top 7.

2.) 28 Sep 2021 11:46:44
20 teams in league - finish top 7 is a 35% chance.
Do we have a 35% chance of winning a cup - no.

Of the last 7 times we have played in Europe 6 have come from the league and one has come from the cup

Spurs have been in Europe pretty consistently without winning a cup also

I’d much rather win a cup but the chances are a lot smaller.

3.) 28 Sep 2021 13:02:11
We have won 1 Cup in the last 36 years so I have to agree with Sobs on this one. No way is the cup our best chance, I mean yes a final appearance could do it. But I genuinely can't even recall the last time we made the league cup final, very early 80s I think. So not sure anyone could argue its a good shot.

4.) 28 Sep 2021 14:31:07
I’m not sure you’re getting what I’m saying and to say 35% chance of getting European football via the league is way too simplistic at looking at it.

It would be that percentage if all teams were equal however they’re not.

We are way off city, Utd, Chelsea and Liverpool so take them 4 teams out and that would also realistically be 4 European places gone.

So now it’s 16 teams for 3 places which would be 18.75% .

However that again over simplifies it as that doesn’t take any of the strength of the squads into account or injuries etc. it assumes all equal over the season which is never the case.

Winning a cup would get European football, maybe even getting to the final may even do it depending on who wins league etc.

Realistically winning 6 games gets you to the final if come in at round 3. The draw could be favourable and could avoid all top teams until final.

I can’t remember a season we’ve genuinely gone and tried to win a cup we seem to try and concentrate on the league however that’s not done is many favours in qualifying for Europe.

Genuinely think if we put out our strongest team in all our cup games we could actually get to a final, however we rarely do this.

We all want European football for the club and just hope we manage to get it, be it either a cup or league position that gets it for us.

5.) 28 Sep 2021 16:34:33
If we never draw a PL team in the cup and a conf team make the other final spot then i'd say we had a 50/ 50 chance of winning a trophy.

6.) 28 Sep 2021 16:40:21
Agree with that - should play strong team and bring some silverware as we sure ain’t going to win the league any time soon.

7.) 28 Sep 2021 17:28:36
I'm with Sobs on this one. Yes in theory you could win a cup after getting through 6 rounds without playing a big boy but it's pretty unlikely isn't it. Dan you say that the odds of being top 7 is smaller but that that doesn't mean it's easier. I would suggest that it does show that the professionals paid to gauge how easy/ difficult something is do think that means it's easier. Incidentally, whilst you can't get a price on top 7 the even more difficult top 6 is available at 5/ 2. We are 25/ 1 to win the FA cup. It's possible we were marginally shorter to win the league cup, but even allowing for that if you dutched the two you'd still be getting significantly more than 5/ 2.

8.) 28 Sep 2021 17:52:24
TD never said anything about the odds.

I responded to sobs post where he’d used a percentage analogy, odds not mentioned by either of us.

The smaller the %chance of something happening means it’s harder to achieve

If odds smaller agree that would suggest easier.

9.) 28 Sep 2021 18:16:26
OK guys, I have seen us lift the cup in person twice, in '66 and '95, a 29 year wait, so we should be due another one in 2024 if we wait that long again. I want to go to that one and I will be 84 so forget all the reasoning about which is best, just give an old man his wish.

10.) 28 Sep 2021 20:52:38
Sorry man - just a bit of banter - I’m with Dan that we should go out for the cup - nobody remembers who comes 7th.
The sad thing is - imagine all the cup memories for teams like us, Newcastle, Norwich etc if it wasn’t for all these super rich owners - swings and roundabouts like up to the late 80s would surely mean lots of smaller clubs fans would have had Wembley memories

I doubt city / Utd / Chelsea fans even remember some of their finals as they don’t regard it as being special.




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02 Oct 2021 23:08:26
He’s had plenty of game time and done nowt.




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29 Sep 2021 15:15:02
Ward prouse
St Maximum

Just a few players on so called lower teams who would improve our team

Martial could be a risk worth taking on a loan -.




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30 Aug 2021 16:56:15
Kanchelskis Howard neville Saha were pretty good cast offs from Man Utd. I’m struggling to think of a bad player we have taken from Utd - then I remembered schniderlin.




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11 Aug 2021 08:39:20
How have they moved way ahead?

I don’t agree with that - if they want our third choice left back then so be it - we have x2 decent left backs at club.

We also have a top keeper, quality defensive midfielder, world class left winger and x2 youn forwards who scored over 40 goals between them last season

If we get a right back and a playmaker (or get James playing) we will have quality all over the park

Come on have some faith


This is the basis of a pretty decent team.




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06 Aug 2021 23:10:18
Knowing Everton the fact he can’t actually play for us won’t put us off.





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13 Oct 2021 09:38:19
I never thought Carlo would leave. I never thought Moyes would go to Man Ud. Never thought Koeman would be so useless - never thought Martinez would ever be linked to Barcelona job or that we would have Rafa.
Nothing would surprise me- I really hope not as he is up there with Moyes and Kendal for me as top 3 since I’ve been alive
All I’m saying our managers have proven over the years if they get offered a big job they don’t usually stay (EFC should be a top job but shackled with FFP who knows) but 200% I’d be gutted if he leaves.




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06 Oct 2021 11:00:52
Definitely in with a chance with Fred and Mctominey.
POF a and Ronaldo should have started - all teams have better chance with them not playing.
Our team also weakened - I know Pickford, Decore, Allan, Gray, Townsend, Mina would all have got into the combined best 11 based on their performance on Saturday
Hope all players for hammers.




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03 Oct 2021 17:18:32
Average squad - Englands keeper - Columbia centre half, French left back, Ireland right back, Brazil forward and midfielder, Nigeria right winger, England forward, how on earth Decore is not in French team is unbelievable.

We are not average - international at nearly every position - we have been performing poorly but Rafa is changing this.




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03 Oct 2021 20:12:40
I think we are getting towards the end of huge sales - realistically only Kenny, Toson, and Delph stand out who are all end of contract in summer so any money is a bonus but at least end in site.

Sigi will get sorted and hopefully fairly in accordance to law. Kean money next year

In Jan I think we will get Longstaff, a right back and a forward.

I can’t see anyone coming in for DCL, Richarlison or Gray (Gray bring the one I’d worry about though)

Keane, Sigi, Delph, Toson and James wages - we could hopefully get a couple of gems.




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03 Oct 2021 17:13:05
50 million at one point.