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09 Jan 2025 18:17:58
Lots of chat about Dyche and DCL falling out and as a result DCL refusing to play tonight, to avoid being cup tied.
1.) 09 Jan 2025 22:58:39
If that’s the case I would start him for every game this month and bring him off after the third minute Representative of the goals he’s scored this season. Then sell him on deadline day. Only though to a team that’s not in the cup still. Utter disgrace if this is true.
28 May 2024 15:32:34
This Phillips rumour is clearly a non-starter, where on earth would we find the money from to cover his wages? He's on £150k per week, we don't have that do we?
Maybe SD can pull of a blinder and suggest that City cover his wages in return Everton won't mention the 100+ charges of financial wrongdoing.
1.) 28 May 2024 21:11:12
How can a team afford to have players on £150k a week on the bench or as squad players? We are never going to be able to compete with that!
2.) 28 May 2024 23:38:19
I think you’d find it would be a percentage of his wages and I’d definitely take him, he’d work well in Dyche system.
3.) 29 May 2024 12:08:43
I really don't understand the hype about this lad and never have.
4 seasons in the PL. 1 goal and 3 assists. Everyone who rates him, raves about his passing, so you would expect the assists to be a little higher, surely. I know he is a DM but look at the numbers some other lads put up in the same position.
Rice - 22
Rodri - 20
I understand they are the top DM's, so here are some lesser names and some have hit these numbers over less seasons.
Bruno G - 14 (in 2 seasons)
Douglas Luiz - 17
JWP - 23
Gallagher - 17
Soucek - 9
Jensen - 12
Norgaard - 11
We already have bad luck with injuries and this lad is another made of paper. His professionalism has been called into question by Pep, as he was seen as overweight when he couldn't get into the City team.
Moyes and Dyche aren't worlds apart in their styles and he couldn't even get into West Ham's 11.
Man City would probably cover 50% of his wages and that would still sit him on 75k a week.
He would represent another terrible signing imo and would be a case of not learning our lessons again. There are much better options out there that are cheaper, more reliable and come with way less risk of hitting the ground running.
4.) 29 May 2024 14:20:39
To be devil's advocate. He strikes me as one of those players who is on his own baffling to most and uninteresting in every (sorry SD speak) metric but makes those around him shine. Stats can be a load of old tosh to the water carriers. The guy made Leeds click made England click for a while and scored a massive move to the worlds No1 club at the request of Pep G! . Not sure how he's not good enough for a relegation club like us all of a sudden. Sure he's had a bad loan at Wham but long injury and then added to no football for best part of a year it's not really surprising he didn't shine in a few starts and some sub appearances. He was also notably fat. If we can get him cheap cheap cheap and City sub most of his wage then I'd have him in a flash. Could be a clever move by city to find him a team where the squad is thin and he will get minutes and a lot of minutes to find some form to boost his resale value and help get some of the £45m back. At the moment he's barely worth £10. A fit Philips is a good replacement for Onana/ Gomes. Oh and he shares stats with em too for those of you that like that sort of thing.
5.) 29 May 2024 16:53:48
All fair points mate. It's not that I don't think he is good enough for us. I just think that given our current restrictions in the market we can ill afford another big/ biggish name to come in and not deliver. The fact that he let himself get overweight when he is a professional athlete at arguably the best club in the world screams all the wrong things. It is integral that we get our loan spots right this season and avoid another Danjuma type.
I think at least some part of the City move may have had something to do with the fact he ticked the homegrown box and they were thin on the ground in that position at the time having lost Fernandinho.
Personally I would rather avoid the uncertainty over whether he can recapture the form that made City go after him and go after Ndidi with instead. He wouldn't cost a penny in terms of a fee. He is still a good age. He has much more experience in the league than Phillips. Always posted cracking numbers defensively, some seasons out performing Gana. Seems to have picked up attacking numbers this season just gone, albeit in a lesser league but it can't be underestimated the added confidence this will give him moving forward.
It is much easier to get a solid player in the CDM position than the attacking positions. I think using a loan on the attacking mid or wide player is wise, as those players come at a premium, at least the ones that can make a difference to the team. Trying to get somebody that is surplus to requirements at one of the bigger sides on loan is a better bet for me.
{Ed025's Note - if KP was on a free and he would play for £10 a week i would still say no, bloody awful player..
6.) 30 May 2024 11:52:23
Think we would be signing another Delle Alli for me. To much to young, hyped as the next big thing for England and believed all the hype.
24 Jun 2023 18:33:37
We seem to be getting linked with the entire Leeds' squad. Probably just lazy journalism with the latest being Rodrigo. Ok so he scored a bit but he's 32 and on £100kp/ w. Surely surely this cannot be true. Have we learnt nothing?
1.) 24 Jun 2023 19:42:58
Rodrigo and gnoto being heavily linked today.
If Rodrigo does have a £3m release fee then may not be a bad purchase.
Gnoto looks like could be a very good player but think I saw something that said he would cost £20m+ so can’t see that one happening unless we move someone on.
2.) 24 Jun 2023 19:58:13
Rodrigo would be good at that price mate.
3.) 24 Jun 2023 20:21:19
Didn’t realise it was £3m. That’s good money actually.
4.) 25 Jun 2023 10:04:32
So pay a 32 year old 100k a week, with absolutely no sell on value? Haven’t we been down this road before?
5.) 25 Jun 2023 12:57:48
This was my original point. £3m isn’t excessive but £100k p/ w for a 32 year old looking for a final payday?
6.) 25 Jun 2023 15:41:21
Agree it seems crazy wages, especially at his age. Is that what he's on now? Surely other clubs won't offer that? But even if it was that. if you said 2 year contract at 100k a week with a £3m purchase that'd mean it's cost us £13m for the whole deal - not terrible value!
7.) 26 Jun 2023 07:38:04
If 13m is the eventual final figure, and he get us double figures each season, then that wouldn't be a waste of money. There are better players out there but we are in a pretty rubbish situation at the moment, so just get us someone who gets us goals. We miss/ need that so much.
8.) 28 Jun 2023 11:49:27
No sell on value? look at our history with players with sell on value, Siggy, Mina, Bolasie, Besic. think he'd be a good budget signing but more of a wide forward than a CF. Don't think Gnoto is worth it and he's def a winger.
05 Jun 2023 19:23:44
Hi Eds, with Ainsley Maitland-Niles being available on a free, do you think Everton will make an offer for him?
{Ed002's Note - Ainsley Maitland-Niles (RM/CM/RWB) Out of contract with agent offering him around - may look to the continent with no EPL interest right now. Perhaps a promoted side?}
1.) 05 Jun 2023 20:22:06
Cheers Ed.
14 May 2023 13:02:14
HOLGATE!
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31 May 2025 13:23:11
Dead chuffed with the Alcaraz news.
1.) 31 May 2025 13:38:28
Me too Swinners.
Lots of chat on FB of people being disappointed with it only being a 2 year contract. I actually think it makes sense in someways:
1) The obvious lack of financial commitment from us.
2) So many players go off the boil, or get injured, never to be the same again.
I know there is a risk of him going on a free, but I like seeing our club being a little more cautious financially.
2.) 31 May 2025 13:43:21
About time.
3.) 31 May 2025 15:17:17
Club has an option for an extra year based on certain conditions being met - quite a sensible approach.
Mad though that if the fee is to be the rumoured £12m then over the 2yrs of the contract this will be covered by the wages freed up by Doucore leaving!
4.) 31 May 2025 15:41:58
If this is just a two year deal then this is one of the worst deals the club has ever made.
We may as well throw £15m in the bin as in 12 months time, if he shows what he's showed since being with us, every decent club will be tapping him up for a free transfer. BBN this is not being cautious, this is simply throwing money away.
I really hope this isn't the way we are going to be doing deals moving forward and this doesn't fill me with confidence in this window or with the new regime.
I am already worried that we have waited so long before entering discussions with Gana, taking so long to get the Alcaraz deal done and then the financials for it just makes me think these are no better than the last idiot we had.
We'll see what happens but they best be getting their act together quickly. We can't afford to waste this summer window and waste the money we need get in a hell of a lot of players.
5.) 31 May 2025 16:26:11
BJU - think you need to chill out.
Transfer window hasn’t even opened yet.
We’ve offered Gana a new deal and by all accounts he’s going to sign it this week.
Alcaraz has been signed on a 2yr deal with the club having an option of a 3rd year if certain conditions met - this is sensible.
The fee for Alcaraz if the rumoured £12m is true will be paid over 2yrs by the wages we’re saving on Doucore leaving.
All very sensible by the club so far.
6.) 31 May 2025 17:36:30
Surely not signing him would be a worse deal BJU….
7.) 31 May 2025 18:45:40
BJU I can think of far worse deal than this and you need to chill out to be honest. Effectively it’s a 3 year deal which is not bad considering his age and the fact he could quite easily go off the boil! It’s really not throwing money away!
8.) 31 May 2025 22:03:47
BJU You’re entitled to your opinion mate. I’ll reply with one word:
Gbamin.
9.) 01 Jun 2025 07:58:29
I think just a 2 year contract is a bit strange when you consider his age and ability. Bar that, I'm happy we have got a deal done as he is a player that will only improve.
10.) 01 Jun 2025 10:40:20
It’s a 2yr deal with an option for a 3rd depending on certain criteria being met.
Club finally start to do sensible deals rather than offering players 5yr deals on ridiculous wages and fans still questioning them.
I’m sure TFG know what they’re doing, which is refreshing compared to previous ownership.
11.) 01 Jun 2025 13:01:08
I know what the deal involves as I also read about it. But I still think a 2 year deal is a bit strange rather than sensible. He's a good player and will only improve further, surely the shorter contracts should be offered to those coming towards the end of their careers? Gana, for example, is reputedly considering a deal of the same length and I can understand that, given his age.
Sorry, dan, but fans are allowed to question things.
12.) 01 Jun 2025 20:18:03
I understand where you are coming from BP but I think we’ve been stung too many times in the past. We’ve ended up with players on longer than we wanted contracts we just can’t shift and dragging us further into PSR problems. Keane, Holgate, Maupay, Alli, Rondon, Tuson, Sandro, Besic, Mina, Klaassen… to name a few from recent years.
It is a way lots of clubs cover themselves now. It feels like a get out clause for clubs. I’m happier they take this approach than stick him on a 5 year deal and then he gets a ACL injury or something like that (God forbid that happens) . Maybe they will renegotiate in 18 months the time.
13.) 01 Jun 2025 22:35:01
Indeed we have mate but these are new owners and I don't wx0ect the same mistakes to happen. I'd have been happy with another year on the main contract, with the option of another year. For once, we've bought a young player who is already quite good and at a bargain price in today's market. I don't see much resale value in this deal whatsoever, added to the fact that we will have to go back to the table next summer to negotiate another deal with the risk of losing him on a free transfer.
31 May 2025 08:40:05
I had a dream last night that Tom Fellows was driving my taxi. I asked him if he was going to sign for Everton and then just as he was about to answer, my wife appeared and told me to leave him alone. I can't even talk about football in my sleep! Still it could be a sign.
1.) 31 May 2025 09:28:30
Was he driving DCL to the airport lol ?.
25 May 2025 18:19:43
Sign Alcarez now!
1.) 25 May 2025 18:48:44
Defo mate.
2.) 25 May 2025 20:30:18
Totally agree Swinners.
07 Apr 2025 09:58:47
I really hope DM is more adventurous with his team selections throughout the rest of this season. We are safe and it would be great to see how McNeill, Ndiaye and Alcaraz play together, you'd hope they'd be the mainstay of the team next season. They are our most gifted attacking players but also work really hard and fit into DM's defensive system. I'd like to see Chermiti get more time too.
It's also exciting to think how Branthwaite and O'Brien might play as centre backs together which means Patterson being given a run of games at right back. I don't think this is what will happen but we will see.
1.) 07 Apr 2025 10:18:25
Would be nice to see some of the younger players given a run, see what their made of.
{Ed025's Note - im with you brass, i would have liked to have seen the likes of Chermiti and Armstrong given a run considering we are all but safe, but Dave will have his own ideas i expect mate..
2.) 07 Apr 2025 10:30:25
I think his hands has been tied by some of the average and below average players before Davey took over, and some bad injuries, we seem to be getting better on the injury front with Ndiaye and now Mc Neil back in the squad we have missed those two massively, fantastic times ahead BMD next season and more importantly a decent Team at last, will be well chuffed and so looking forward to it, it’s been a very long time coming mate going to be our best summer ever.
{Ed025's Note - hopefully GB..
3.) 07 Apr 2025 10:50:42
It ant get any worst Ed, pre Davey days are gone mate.
{Ed025's Note - i hope so GB, but im still yet to be convinced that it will be the massive turnaround that you expect mate, but i would love you to be right..
4.) 07 Apr 2025 11:30:59
No two ways about it Davey has done really well since he came in, with a few incomings and loads of outgoings, think I read 15 senior players contracts are up this summer, whole Team will be different mate.
5.) 07 Apr 2025 11:36:26
I think we are in a much better situation than we was going to be under the last manager palace and brighton away wins also leicester and spurs at home would we would of won under s. d doubt it infact i can even bet that we woudnt of even scored against the teams am mentioning we was unlucky against united had great chances to get 3 pounts away at Brentford got good point at home against liverpool aswell so my personal view moyes will steady us i do agree with chermiti an broja though and also alcaraz ed 025 i like Charlie i just don't understand why he's not starting instead of doucoura but just want to ask you mate you do you think everton or moyes want to sign him cause i'm i right he only needs play 5 more matches before the transfer can be pernament i think they don't want him and i think its a massive shame an i will be very disappointed if that scenario is true cause when i see that lad play or come of bench on his day he can be a gamechanger and offers a lot more than most that start.
{Ed025's Note - i think it may be 6 games Andy but im with you mate i think he should start mate, my only theory on why hes not playing is that we dont want him on a permanent basis..
6.) 07 Apr 2025 12:11:40
He has a buyout clause between 15_20 million if am right its not a risk we have seen what the lad is capable off and cause its everton we won't buy him and another club will and i woudnt be surprised if he thrives under another club but i think we won't sign him ed 025 mate and if i had a free pound bet in why we won't sign Charlie cause it was thelwell who got him and frieken want to start from scratch but regardless the lads got talent so be dissapointed if we don't take up the offer for pernament transfer.
{Ed025's Note - so will i Andy, i think hes a talent mate..
7.) 07 Apr 2025 12:41:38
Hope we tie him down to a contract, the guy is good.
8.) 07 Apr 2025 15:53:16
I always thought the higher up the league we are, the more prize money we get, so if that's the case, maybe that's why he's playing the tried and tested.
9.) 07 Apr 2025 18:39:42
Don't think we will move much further up the table now regardless of what team we put out. Therefore I don't think the money difference is that great. But Moyes now has an opportunity to have a good look at all his squad, including the younger players.
Let's face it there are a few who won't be here anyway, so give a couple of the younger players a go.
10.) 07 Apr 2025 19:26:32
Of course it isn't going to be a massive turnaround. City with all their money took time. Let's learn to walk first eh!
11.) 07 Apr 2025 19:37:53
Need a few good players in and a mix of the Good player we have could be exciting, but how many times like Forrest bought 2 new teams and nearly got relegated, Moyes isn't stupid and he's Scottish so he won't buy players unless he wants or needs them.
12.) 08 Apr 2025 01:57:51
With Alcaraz, it could be more to do with fitness rather than any kind of financial decision. Obviously, there's a clause that will be activated but he's been doing well since coming in and he looks like a shrewd buy for the price quoted.
Maybe the last game was one too many after the derby match a few days earlier?
13.) 08 Apr 2025 08:10:32
Well using Forest as an example look at where they are now. Get the right manager and good players in and it doesn't take that long to progress. We already have some good players, just need to add more quality.
Less graft more craft.
14.) 08 Apr 2025 08:44:24
If we don’t sign Alcaraz but keep Doucs and Harrison then someone needs their head shaken in recruitment.
Get rid of the over paid bench warmers and get some people in who are on reasonable amounts and will play games, change games, seal off leads, show a creative spark, attack the opposition, get the crowd on their feet… is it too much to ask?
15.) 08 Apr 2025 11:32:11
If we do buy harrison then it clearly shows are player recruiting is piss poor yes granted he's a runner at best but if we want to start being a mid table team and try push for top 10 then as BR has stated doucoura an harrison are no goes we can do so much better surly ?.
16.) 09 Apr 2025 11:32:44
I agree with a previous poster, it's more to do with his fitness. He came to us without much game time due to injury and then a falling out with his clubs manager and being over looked. His reputed fees are small potatoes even for us and in no way are prohibitive. However we are safe much faster than anyone responsibly could have planned and now we have the chance to renegotiate any potential deal down. Seems to me finally we are showing some business sharps behind the scenes. Like him and he seems to be hard working and can clearly play and seems flexible which EFC has always banked on multi position players. Isn't very expensive in the climate and I think he seems pretty happy too. Can't see a problem here.
15 Mar 2025 13:58:10
All of a sudden the bench looks stronger, plenty of options for DM. I like the starting XI too, thinks it's our strongest team available.
16 Jun 2025 19:37:06
Wow that’s a great story. Made up for him. What an honour.
14 Jun 2025 21:46:12
Lots of good handbag shops in London.
25 May 2025 11:12:19
I agree, I think Fellows at half that price is a much better buy.
24 May 2025 23:41:05
What about Hamer?
15 May 2025 07:47:33
Exactly the sort of player we should be looking at. Young, with the ability to play in the Prem (that is proven) , potentially international, will be an assset.
31 May 2025 12:51:18
Think it’s worth a Cherki bid.
25 May 2025 13:38:22
Yeah I agree he’s a 10, for sure. I think McNeil, Alcaraz and N’Diaye is a really good combination of players.
24 May 2025 23:43:49
He’s a nasty little prick.
24 May 2025 23:43:24
I would rather we sign Charly A. He’s going to be a very good player and he is already settled at the clubs.
14 May 2025 13:24:21
£12m is such a bargain. He’s an excellent footballer and is only going to get better. He’d be worth three times that as soon as he’d signed his contract.