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04 Dec 2021 17:26:40
Being reported Marcel very likely to get the sack after the Board meeting.


1.) 04 Dec 2021 18:24:33
Would prefer to go back to no DOF. Let the manager and scouts choose the players and the board do the business side of things.

2.) 04 Dec 2021 18:47:09
Thats from ‘footyinsider’ so would take thar with a pinch of salt.

3.) 04 Dec 2021 18:48:56
With you there mate.

4.) 04 Dec 2021 21:52:47
Would much rather see Benitez go.

5.) 05 Dec 2021 08:40:06
Not for me we need to give Rafa ample time to change this around.

6.) 05 Dec 2021 09:36:43
Brands going is a no brainier. What had he achieved to merit a new long term contract? Where are the hidden gems that his far reaching scouting network unearthed? Where is the philosophy, the passion, the blueprint for success? Get him gone. If he had any pride he’d walk.
Benitez is trickier. He should never have been hired, the toxic atmosphere was inevitable. Now we have him, how long do we keep making excuses for him? The vibe around the club is poisonous, our great club is a laughing stock.
For me, the answer is to cut our losses and hire a young, passionate, forward thinking manager.

7.) 05 Dec 2021 12:04:38
Wasn’t it Brands who brought Dacoure in when Carlo hadn’t even heard of him. He brought young Kean in and the kid was never given a chance, yet the top clubs in Europe were fighting for him.
Richarlison, Digne, Mina, Godfrey, Branthwaite, Nikounkou. Gbamin, King, Delph, Gomes, Iwobi, Bernard.
I don’t believe he decided on Rodriguez, Rondon, Grey, Allan or Townsend.
And ultimately that is where the problem is. Their is no point having a DOF if you are constantly changing the manager. Each manager has his own style and the type of player he likes.
It would be like having a new wife each year. They would want a new bed, new furniture and the rooms painted. Then they would have their mates in the background saying, no don’t do what he says do this. It would drive you nuts.
Think the guy is in a no win position here, and I think that message he gave to the fan the other day pretty much highlights that. Yes the guy has made some mistakes, but they have not all been bad, and it would be fascinating to see what the aftermath is if he does go.
Might find out what is actually going on in the club, warts and all.



02 Dec 2021 21:28:29
Rondon now has a hamstring how long will he be out hmmmm.


1.) 02 Dec 2021 21:35:22
Hope Simms or Dobbin get to seize their opportunity if he’s out.

2.) 02 Dec 2021 22:17:03
Hopefully till his contract runs out.

3.) 02 Dec 2021 22:20:18
It’ll be Tosun more than likely starting up top if Rondon out.

4.) 02 Dec 2021 23:13:52
Rafa will play Fergie as he has the experience and he's not got a real job anyway.

FFP problems but we can afford 2 assistant managers - Fergie and the one the manager appoints and uses.

5.) 03 Dec 2021 14:00:04
First time he put some sort of effort in he gets crocked. let's evaluate that. Came to us after playing micky mouse football, not fit according to Rafa. Puts in less than Sunday Morning football effort for 10 games. Hmmmmm!

6.) 03 Dec 2021 19:54:28
Oh no losing my sh/ =$ can't do with another striker injured! Oh wait is Rondon all is good.

7.) 04 Dec 2021 17:25:53
Maybe if he gets a second hamstring he will be able to start running for us GB ?.



23 Nov 2021 20:42:22
£35 million being banded about as our transfer budget this January, where do they get this from.


1.) 23 Nov 2021 22:21:58
Probably on the assumption that we will be selling players worth 35 million pounds which is highly unlikely.

2.) 23 Nov 2021 22:32:12
From numpties willing to progress the rumour, best guess.

3.) 24 Nov 2021 07:10:56
I thought it was -£35m. in that we need to make 35m to stay within ffp. Anyone else starting to wonder about DCL? An injury that initially seemed minor is going on and on and the return date is vague at best - is he coming back from injury plus they don't want to risk him ahead of a big sale in January?

4.) 24 Nov 2021 16:41:25
None of you lot have a clue how ffp works do you ?.

5.) 24 Nov 2021 19:26:05
Ooh if only we were as wise as you mate?.

6.) 25 Nov 2021 09:46:52
Exactly how deep in the doodoo are Everton?
Ed002 please jump in if anything I say is inaccurate as I don’t profess to be an expert in this
In the year ending 30th June 2018 they reported a profit of 13m
For 2019 they reported losses of £112 m
For 2020 they reported losses of £140 m but they attributed £67m of this to C.V.
As well as possibly excluding the C.V. losses they are also allowed to reduce the figures by the costs of the academy, ladies football and any new ground costs. They do not show these separately in the accounts so I do not know what the figures are or how the EPL validates them
For the rolling 3 years the loss was £184 if they can exclude C.V. – well over the limit set by the Premier League but again, I re-iterate I don’t know the costs of the academy, ladies football and the new stadium. Maybe all of these bring us in line with the limits but why we are not already having penalties set against us I don’t know – perhaps ED002 can enlighten us on this
The accounts for year ending 30th June 2021 will come out around December this year. If 2020 is anything to go by the 3 year losses could be 112 + 73 + maybe another 73 which gives us £258m as we lose the small profit made in 2017/ 18 and replace it with a loss similar to 2019/ 20 – an increase of 74 over the previous 3 year period (not including adjustments)
Is the 73m for 2021 a reasonable guess?
It might be more as we will have a full year of James salary (he wasn’t with us in the year ending 30/ 06/ 19
Same with Allan, Doucoure, Godfrey, together with the amortisation of their transfer fees over their contract period
We have the additional wages for the new contracts that we have given Richarlison, DCL, Digne, Keane and anybody else
Partially (in my opinion) offsetting this would be the wages saved by the likes Scheiderlin, Niasse, Ramirez and Walcott leaving the club although I guess we made losses on the actual transfer fee.
There are certainly a whole heap of other pluses and minuses that I don’t have knowledge of but a rolling loss over 3 year of something of the order of £258 m is certainly feasible in my opinion
What the Premier League does faced with these figures is anybody’s guess
Selling James when we did will not, in my opinion affect the 2021 number as it was done after the 30th June 2021. It will help 2022 but it might be too little too late
IT IS TOO LATE TO ALTER THE 2020/ 21 FIGURES. The books are closed and with the auditors for verification
Selling players now won’t show up until the accounts are published for the year the sale took place
The wages of players who’s contracts end next June = THE REDUCTION IN WAGES WON’T SHOW IN THE ACCOUNTS until 2022/ 23.

{Ed002's Note - As of the end of 19/20 Everton are £409m in debt, mainly to the owner. Mosiri continues to supplement the club up to the FFP limit but they will be structured as loans and have been partially used to reduce debt - which is a good thing. Wages are a significant proble for the club. It will get worse before it improves.

The spending on infrastructure (e.g. the stadium) are excluded from the FFP accounts. The three years rolling FFP period has been reduced temporarily to two years to help clubs out because of the pandemic.}

7.) 25 Nov 2021 10:02:54
GB just google it mate. Have a good read and then you will be a wiser man.

8.) 25 Nov 2021 10:43:49
Thanks ED

What's the permitted losses over 2 years?

{Ed002's Note - The same as three years. But this is temporary.}

9.) 25 Nov 2021 11:28:01
Sorry ED

Is that 65m, 105m or something else

I've seen mentions of the 65 and the 105 but not sure whic, if anything is right


{Ed002's Note - They are the different Premier League and UEFA figures.}

10.) 25 Nov 2021 12:41:50
{Ed002's Note - I don't want to get in to the detail but in simple terms the Premier League allow for losses of £45M over a rolling three years (temporarily two years because of the pandemic) and for losses of £105M over the same period if the owners put in money to sustain the club.}

11.) 26 Nov 2021 04:40:48
Thanks Ed. I really appreciate your input

Does the Newcastle buy out change the EPL's stance on enforcement. It looks like they declared an unofficial amnesty last year several clubs, of which we were one of the most vocal were against the Saudo buyout

Do you think the EPL are now more likely to now enforce FFP to send a signal to everyone

I know it will only be your opinion but I'd be interested to hear it.

{Ed002's Note - The English authorities have been enforcing FFP and have been punishing clubs who have breached the rules with points deductions, e.g. Sheffield Wednesday, Derby Count and probably soon Reading. Aston Villa remain on the naughty step over their sale of the stadium, and other clubs have significant issues (such as Everton).}

12.) 26 Nov 2021 11:38:26
That's what I fear ED

Many thanks for your input.

13.) 29 Nov 2021 16:02:23
We'll have 35 million because we'll sell Iwobi for the price we paid, easy!

{Ed025's Note - we need you as our DOF tomtom..

14.) 30 Nov 2021 12:08:24
? ? ?.



23 Nov 2021 10:07:13
This morning saying Deli Ali could be offered as part of a deal with Pickford going the other way to Spuds.


1.) 23 Nov 2021 10:43:39
no thanks, money only for JP if he has to go so we can reinvest

don't need another waster like Dele has become.

2.) 23 Nov 2021 11:39:32
Defo mate.

3.) 23 Nov 2021 15:54:13
Ali would fit right in with some of the wasters we have already.
But why you would want to get rid of Pickford baffles me.

4.) 23 Nov 2021 19:02:41
Keep Pickford and stuff Ali he carnt even get in the Spurs team.



17 Nov 2021 15:28:01
Being reported Sivisspor are interested in signing Rondon in the January window, could be Christmas is coming early for us Blues.


1.) 17 Nov 2021 16:23:07
Maybe we could include a few more surplus players. Buy one get one free comes to mind!

2.) 17 Nov 2021 16:44:03
Tosun looks to be going on a free mate in January, at last am sure Rafa will have replacements in mind.

3.) 17 Nov 2021 22:34:06
Stick with dobbin and simms. They're deemed good enough as they're training with 1st team. Bring emon as subs or occasional start. They are both natural finishers. Bout time to have belief in our youngsters that are deemed good enough to train with 1st team, epically with our financial problems.

4.) 18 Nov 2021 14:59:08
Yeh I'd love to see the youngsters get a run out for 20 minutes or so, Rondon just doesn't do it for me!

5.) 22 Nov 2021 16:36:58
More like buy 1 get 6 free, after the last few performances BlueMike1.




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07 Dec 2021 11:06:28
The one thing that really pleased me from last nights game was the players getting stuck in, Godfrey and Gordon in particular something we haven't seen in a while, longmay it last.


1.) 07 Dec 2021 11:53:48
The thing is mate giving your all in an Everton shirt should be a given. No praise from me for doing it every now and again its got to be week in week out.

2.) 07 Dec 2021 11:58:20
For sure Reg mate with you there.



06 Dec 2021 22:12:29
Great interview Seamus.


1.) 06 Dec 2021 22:21:03
Having backed him I do now have my doubts. Listening to Carragher tonight, it sticks in the craw but by heck for me the bloke spoke as if he was present in the boardroom.

2.) 06 Dec 2021 22:57:45
If he can instill his own work ethic in our young players we will have a real team.



06 Dec 2021 22:06:23
To all the doubters RAFA is the man to take us forward, well done real passion tonight hold your heads up high lads you deserve it, this is the start of the turnaround.


1.) 06 Dec 2021 22:19:58
Great result, but let's not be hastey, that was Richarlison and Gray that won us that match, and if he plays like that more often I'll take back my comment about how we should cash in Richarlison! He absolutely willed us to win that game and as much stick as he gets for his supposed sulky attitude you could see tonight was important to the lad.

2.) 06 Dec 2021 22:20:49
What a goal from gray. He's had half a season at it and cost 1.7m iwobi had 3 seasons and gray has already out scored him. No doubt that gray is benitez signing, couldn't give a toss who signed iwobi but this is why I'm backing rafa.

3.) 06 Dec 2021 22:39:57
Iwobi is probably one of the worse we have seen. Still see Richarlison
on the left let Gray go where he wants.

4.) 06 Dec 2021 22:57:40
Pretty sure Gray was on the cards before Rafa - I see him as a Brands buy.

Anyone else think he was channeling Barry Horne with that strike?



06 Dec 2021 19:16:57
Wow some discussion on Sky re the problems at Everton, Carragher saying what's going on and then Rafa in his interview was all over the place, not good.


1.) 06 Dec 2021 19:33:13
What’s peeing me off right now is Sky talking about Man Utd. Just how disrespectful is this to Everton and Arsenal.
Seriously thinking of binning Sky now.

{Ed014's Note - the same mate, it’s a cream my pantsathon about the pile of rubbish and the fabulous Fred…bla bla bla.

Does my head listening to the stuff spouted about that poxy little club!

2.) 06 Dec 2021 23:02:05
Haha yeah I agree ed. But I said to my pals all the build up will be be about and his philosophy. Just come to expect it now Everton barely get a mention even when we're on telly.

{Ed014's Note - it bores me to tears mate, they do it every time there’s another new dawn for United!?‍♂️



06 Dec 2021 16:23:32
Is Mina fit for tonight's game does anyone know, we need him also hope the crowd get behind the Team.


1.) 06 Dec 2021 17:45:25
Is the Pope Jewish?

2.) 06 Dec 2021 18:35:21
The Moon is made of Cheese though.

3.) 06 Dec 2021 20:52:05
Pity it wasn't a full moon ?.




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05 Dec 2021 21:32:31
Defo Uran mate pleased to see the back of him, Mr Moshiri is to be applauded.




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05 Dec 2021 12:03:27
Worst rumour for a while that.




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05 Dec 2021 08:40:06
Not for me we need to give Rafa ample time to change this around.




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04 Dec 2021 18:48:56
With you there mate.




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24 Nov 2021 19:26:05
Ooh if only we were as wise as you mate?.





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07 Dec 2021 11:58:20
For sure Reg mate with you there.




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06 Dec 2021 22:23:30
I’d love to be there mate wow.




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06 Dec 2021 18:35:21
The Moon is made of Cheese though.




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06 Dec 2021 18:19:07
Yep with you there mate.


{Ed025's Note - i dont get how some are asking for total commitment from the players yet want to down tools as supporters after 27 minutes GB..



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06 Dec 2021 15:00:19
Probably the cash and his commitment to Everton, I just do not want to go the road sacking Rafa an I still think not many previous managers woul have done any better, having said the Rondon situation is strange though mate.