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04 Nov 2020 09:58:17
Release clauses keep being raised as if triggering it is a given. Interested because I seem to remember one of the ED's indicating they mean nothing. Apologies if I got it wrong.


{Ed002's Note - Perhaps a reminder about transfer related clauses would be apt. This is a horribly complex area not least because they are written under individual national laws. They cause a great deal of misunderstanding with football supporters and the media alike.

The "buy out clause" is legally binding between a club and a player. The "buy out" is effectively what it says - a means for the player to buy himself out of the contract. As an example, if a player wishes to buy himself out of a contract, he pays the applicable FA (on behalf of the club) the amount of the "buy out" clause effectively becoming a free agent. The problem is that in most cases a player would need to obtain that money from the buying club - and this is fraught with issues regarding "tapping up" and, of course, taxation (as it can be seen as income for the player and would therefore be subject to income tax). There was a test case about the taxation issue in Spain several years ago which is why they have an exception. All players in Spain and Portugal have a clause that allows the player to buy himself out of his contract without any tax implications - the tax implications passing to the buying club - typically at 50% on top of the value of the clause for the higher profile players. This was to address a ruling from around 30 years ago allowing players a way out of their contracts. The other notable point about Spain and Portugal is that the clauses, if invoked by a non-Iberian club, need to be paid in full by the player (there are local rules that stop tax being due) but by needing to put up 100% of the money upfront would end many transfers then and there. It works differently in Iberia to elsewhere as the tax implications do not make such clauses viable in other countries, so when Arsenal purchased Thomas Party they had to provide the money to him and then he had to immediately transfer those funds to the Spanish FA – leaving Arsenal to subsequently pay the tax due on the transfer by due date. All players in Iberia must have a figure set and agreed with the club. So "buy out" clauses are very rare elsewhere. Related to this is the Webster Ruling that allows players under certain conditions to break contracts after a certain period of time (three years under 28 and two years after being 28) by paying the club the amount the club would pay the player over the remaining length of the contract. It is very rarely invoked and could easily result in a protracted legal case.

A "release clause" is far more common in that it gives a figure that the club would accept for the sale of a player to another club - but it is not legally binding except where both parties (clubs) are in the same country (for the sake of argument I should say that football Spain and Portugal count as the same country as do England and Wales) for legal purposes. These are normally unreasonably high figures (Messi at Barcelona has a €700M release clause for example) introduced to act as a deterrent for hostile bids - and even then the club could easily block a move. However, if a club in the same country does agree to match a release clause then the selling club would be obliged to ask the player if he is interested - there is no obligation on the player to make a move. For interested clubs outside of the country, the selling club may use it as a guide but are under obligation to accept a bid and may demand a higher figure – as was the case when Roberto Firmino moved from Hoffenheim to Liverpool for more than his “release clause”.

There is then the becoming popular "termination clause" which is binding between the player and the club and if met would see an offer from anywhere accepted and the player given the opportunity to make a call on a move. This overcomes the issues associated with "buy out" clauses as the money would be paid by one club to another and about the legal proximity of the buying side.

And finally, "buy back clauses". The most common way is that for a fixed period, typically two or three years, the selling club will have the opportunity to match any offer made (if the player is to be sold) by another club and buy back the player if he agrees. Rarely, clubs have the opportunity to buy a player back at a fixed price when a player is put up for sale of a two or three year period (this is what Chelsea used with a couple of players although they later negotiated a deal which gave them a percentage of the sale, as was the case with Bertrand Traoré moving from Lyon to Aston Villa). Finally there is a very uncommon variant of this where by the club have the opportunity to buy back the player at a fixed fee in year one, a different fixed fee in year two and another different fixed fee in year three if put up for sale. This was used by Barcelona when Oriol Romeu was sold to Chelsea.}

1.) 04 Nov 2020 12:31:42
I tell you what ed002 you are one serious mush I take my hat off to you fella 👏👏👏.

2.) 04 Nov 2020 13:31:14
ED02 regarding release clauses didn't Luis Saurez have one in the region of 40 million which Arsenal triggered but Liverpool refused to accept or did i dream that.

{Ed002's Note - It is correct that the Liverpool owners did not honour the contract.}

3.) 05 Nov 2020 00:06:30
I doff my cap to you Ed002 for the full explanation you gave to Ducksy, good read that.

4.) 05 Nov 2020 06:48:26
Brilliant Ed. Thank you very much. Bet dear old Jimmy H. Never thought the demons he was releasing those years ago. Gone are the days of 'I will buy the butties' wages.



20 Aug 2019 08:59:46
From what I saw last night, we are currently behind Man Utd and Wolves. Add into that Spurs, City, Liverpool and Arsenal, that leaves us once again fighting as best of the rest, including Chelsea and Leicester at the moment. Said before season start, that League progress would be finishing at best 7th. Long hard season ahead.


1.) 20 Aug 2019 09:40:49
Wow, that is some leap of doom you have made right there?

Just so I'm clear, on the basis of one game between 2 teams who are not Everton on the 2nd weekend of a football season. You now know it will be a long hard season? Really?

Are you ignoring the fact that most teams play better against better opposition, us included?

Or that judging 2 teams level based on a match between them with no other form to qualify the standard of said two teams is simply ridiculous?

2.) 20 Aug 2019 10:30:27
Are we behind them because they play prettier football?

3.) 20 Aug 2019 10:55:16
Can you quantify how you think we are behind Man U and wolves? Particularly as were level on points with Man U and 2 points ahead of wolves
Think you need to reassess either after 10 games or so or when we’ve actually played any of the so called top 6.

4.) 20 Aug 2019 12:57:29
That is just a plain daft no one can possibly know where we will end up, we have to give it at least till after the Chiistmas period to see ourselves and all the others before any sort of judgement can be made, incidentally because Chelsea are near the bottom of the league now does it mean they will finish outside the top Seven, I think not, let's chill out for a while.

5.) 20 Aug 2019 13:09:24
I will reassess of course GingerDan etc! . Our performance against Watford was not the best as some of those at the game will attest to particularly 2nd half. Plus's Moise is going to be some player for us, Mina (I am pleased) is proving me wrong. My opinion watching other Teans games is that currently we will do well to finish 7th. That is improvement and of course, I want us to hopefully finish in the top 6. Is that better. Your rose tinteds are steamed up.

6.) 20 Aug 2019 13:35:53
Well like I have said before it all comes down to winning games and scoring goals looking at our team can see us struggling dcl ain’t a prolific goal scorer Walcott again not doing enough so pressure on kean sigg of the boil Richarlison hope gets a few with all this I can see top 8.

7.) 20 Aug 2019 13:56:48
I just don't understand how you came to this conclusion. What exactly did you see last night that shows we are worse than Wolves and UTD?
Wolves have been vastly outplayed in large parts of both matches (Leics and UTD) . They do have some quality there and are capable of punishing a team out of nowhere, but on the whole they do not look like a team to fear.
Utd are looking decent enough and cannot be taken lightly, but also do not look like a team who can seriously challenge at the top. If a defense stay strong and eliminate counter attacks then Utd look like a team who will pick up a tonne of draws and not so many wins.
At this juncture, to think that we are so far behind those 2 teams either shows a deliberate attempt to slag off our club or a complete lack of reading a game.

8.) 20 Aug 2019 18:50:58
Totally agree Worcester mate, my Brother is a Woves supporter and he also said they were riding their luck for most of last nights game and only drew because of Pogba missing a penalty, absolute nonsense from Dfs.

9.) 20 Aug 2019 19:40:22
Guys. To be fair to DFS we are all making a few predictions- where we will finish etc and he has done just the same, albeit a lees optimistic one. I don’t agree with DFS but that’s just opinions. I think Wolves for all their endeavour last season will be different due to Thursday games.

United were superior but not unbeatable. And we have Goodison. Molinoux is no where near as intimidating.

10.) 20 Aug 2019 21:15:08
1 nil to the Arsenal, not pretty but we all know how boring and unattractive that football was, however you do not get bonus points for silky play so judging a team after two games is crazy.

I have seen Everton play some great football and come away with a draw.

We are unbeaten, will get better, but picking points up early doors is an added bonus.

11.) 20 Aug 2019 21:33:08
I agree Big Nev, under Martinez we would batter teams, then be left with a kick in the crown jewels (2-2 vs Arsenal, 3-4 vs Stoke) . 4 points, 2 clean sheets and all with virtually no minutes for our new signings, i think we have made a great start. also playing well isn't just about scoring goals, the boys have been great at the back.

12.) 20 Aug 2019 23:35:11
Ducksfly, not sure about the tinted glasses to Ginger, he is going off 2 games, no losses and no goals conceded, any team that is not firing on all cylinders yet come away undefeated is a big positive.

The only team in the premiership yet to concede a goal.

Add to that the new signings who are still getting up to speed which will only improve and make the team stronger still.

We all have a moan when we lose but for the time being enjoy the ride while it lasts.

I am with Ginger and a few more posters, along with Ed25 who can see the green shoots of recovery.

Knock Everton when they are down, but at least give them credit for the run in form, since-the turn of the year after the cup defeat.

13.) 21 Aug 2019 11:46:43
This was a ridiculous post ducks mate. Its one game. One game. I believe we will finish above Wolves.

14.) 21 Aug 2019 17:14:49
Couldn't agree more blue tit. Basing it on one game is ludicrous billscrocdiletears. Our new signings have barely played and some of our better players haven't been great so far but we have 4 points from 2 games. We, like most teams to be fair, will improve as the season goes on so to be making doom and gloom precictions at this stage is stupid.

15.) 22 Aug 2019 11:02:00
Ridiculous post we are not behind them, I have not seen anything from Utd to suggest they are any better, wolves are a very good team and had a great season but I think playing in Europe will have an effect on them at some point in the season, our major problem last season was what Marco picked upon that December to February was our most costly period in terms of pts picked up, the Liverpool defeat was damaging as we did not recover from that game even though the performance was good and it was ironic that the following fixture spurred us on to some great performance s and results. We need to convert more of our chances to win more games, we had joint 3rd most clean sheets with 14 and have 2 so far this season so defensively I think we are pretty solid.
I think top 4 is not going to happen but top 6 is a yes from me this season.

16.) 02 Sep 2019 08:58:52
hows this looking now? man united now off to an average at best start? and wolves (so be it have had the demands of europe hinder them abit) only have three points on the board?



15 Jun 2018 19:32:35
I will start the pessimism. The World Cup has started and finishes on 15th July. Clubs report back for pre-season around that time, with many Club International players given extra time off. Already pre-World Cup we have seen transfers happening except with us. We have a brand new Team in place and I have no doubt in my mind they have previewed the situation at Everton for months. Yet no movement on the transfer front. The common demoninator here is the one remaining old Guard.


{Ed002's Note - Would you rather Everton simply purchased new players, doesn't matter who they are, quickly to appease the fans, or would you rather they try to obtain the players they want? In the interim, they also have to figure out what money they have available. Currently they have players to sell and players to loan, they are paying the wages of three managers and several backroom staff and they will neeed to pay something like €75k per week towards Wayne Rooney's wages in Washington DC.}

1.) 15 Jun 2018 20:01:29
Transfers happening except us? Sorry that's rubbish!

2.) 15 Jun 2018 20:08:02
Understand your frustration dfs. It’s annoying to hear others lining up players already but I suppose they have been doing it since last summer (or longer) whereas Brands been in place for less than a month.

Think we are all hopeful of strengthening the squad but makes sense that we’ll need to offload some first to free up wages.

If it takes time, it takes time. At least the inflated prices in August are less of a deterrent with Moshiri’s money. Let’s just hope we don’t have a fiasco like Sigs again.

Currently watching Carvalho for Portugal and not seeing what the hype is yet. Maybe we shouldn’t rush in.

3.) 15 Jun 2018 20:32:12
Give it a rest Dfs.

4.) 15 Jun 2018 20:07:17
Agree with you there ed002 i'm sure things are happening behind the scenes we have a squad that we need to trim and a wage bill to reduce. And we still have Marco to meet to players and put his stamp on the team let's just relax wait and things will happen.

5.) 15 Jun 2018 21:34:42
I stand admonished and corrected Ed002, You and your obvious insight I respect. Yet again lack of communication is the issue. The rags seem to be setting the agenda. GB stop jumping on the band wagon.

6.) 15 Jun 2018 22:09:04
bluereason Sigs a good player no where near a failure, played out of position. Klaasen a good player. Carvalho, yep pretty average.

7.) 15 Jun 2018 22:14:12
Chill people. We’re already better off with Brands and Silva. The pieces will fall into place. We already saw what manic buying at the full price rack got us last season.

8.) 15 Jun 2018 22:42:14
Sorry DFS - I meant the fiasco around the time it took to sign him.

9.) 15 Jun 2018 23:32:45
Need to learn from our mistakes boys. We’re not Man U - we can’t simply pick the players we want and sign them up in 48 hours. We’re battling against other, similar clubs for signatures. We need to know we can get rid of certain players before others come in. Relax, have faith in Brands and Silva.

10.) 15 Jun 2018 23:44:29
I second the motion.

11.) 16 Jun 2018 07:10:05
So you really think BK stood there saying, no, no, no. Whilst Moshiri, Marcel and Marco try to sign players, speak with agents etc? Really? The paranoia and lack of any kind of patience amongst some blues is frightening. The manager probably hasn’t even met half the players yet. We were all chuffed last summer with the early signings - look what happened. Worries me that so called fans already looking to complain before M and M have even kicked a ball. This is going to take time. Just try and have a little patience before trying to start the negativity.

{Ed025's Note - well said dave, they remind me of corporal jones from dads army, listen guys...."dont panic, dont panic", this is a process that might take a bit of time so lets just let the club do their thing and enjoy the ride..

12.) 16 Jun 2018 08:01:35
Ed025, how are Everton perceived by other teams in the transfer market?

Do we have a reputation like Levy/ are we considered hard to deal with/ do clubs think we rip them off/ are we seen as fair to deal with?

(My thoughts are directed at why it sometimes seems to take so long to sort out long term targets and a couple of high profile dealings like this in media over the last few years)

{Ed025's Note - since moshiri we are seen as a bit of a soft touch BR, they know hes prepared to back his managers and wont baulk at over inflated prices which is why we paid top dollar for some very average players last season, BK was seen as a levy type to deal with and teams knew where they stood with him and that everton looked for bargain basement signings, brands coming in will change a lot of that as he is well respected and savvy mate..

13.) 16 Jun 2018 08:10:16
Agree with Bluereason Carvalho played the same role as Schneiderlin in last night's game and as much as it pains me to say this, he was no better than Schneiderlin in what he did. No point in wasting money on a like for like player.

14.) 16 Jun 2018 11:22:15
Maybe schneiderlin will be the player we know he can be, have to wonder what effect playing under 3 managers has on a player.

As for the lack of anything it always is around world cup an average player becomes an overnight sensation, a good player looks average, personally getting it right comes before splashing millions again.

I'm sure brands Silva Moshi and kenwright have sat there and said this is the plan, this is how we do it and will have timeframes in mind but our part in all this is support, and if possible patience. As there is little else we can do.

15.) 16 Jun 2018 12:03:48
I to wasn't to impressed with carvalho thought he was a little slow but also think we should judge him on his next matches as he was up against exceptional midfielders in inesta, Silva and isco and not many midfieldes could contain them on the form they where last night.

16.) 16 Jun 2018 12:10:38
I’d rather we sold loads of the deadwood and buy one or two this season. Last season was shocking re transfer business. Just buying players it seemed with no strategy or plan. Also ended up paying well over the odds for some. For example Sigurdsson £45M and 150K a week. He’s good on his day but 29 I think no resale value and not worth that kind of money or wages. That Sandro apparently on 100K a week. Mirallas 70 ish. It’s ridiculous. Need to realise at moment we’re 7th all day and without a proper plan and just scatter gun approach we’ll become a laughing stock soon. If not already. Time for patience from all concerned. I started going the match with my arl fella in 70s when Ipswich were turning us over 4-0 at home. He always said our time will come. It did. Mid 1980s. Everyone needs to just settle in! Rant over! Enjoy the World Cup and let people paid more than us worry about EFC transfer policy!

17.) 16 Jun 2018 12:52:37
Negativity and jibes at Kenwright again. What a surprise.
I would rather big Sam returns to save us again this season than read anything else from you, that's how dire your posts have been of late.

18.) 16 Jun 2018 14:14:20
Agree Worcester mate very poor posts from Dfs, this is a great at time to be be a Blue, not a time for negativity.

19.) 16 Jun 2018 14:27:35
Just to add to my above posts just look at how thumbs negativity gets, end of.

20.) 16 Jun 2018 15:17:02
To his credit, dfs did alter his stance after Ed002's response.

The BK haters are beyond my comprehension.

Let's hope that when we sit round the negotiating table, we put out the finest biscuits and not the value range - must be the reason why we always seem to take so long.

21.) 16 Jun 2018 17:29:56
Sorry dfs but I think you need to remove that massive BK chip off your shoulders and just relax a little.

22.) 16 Jun 2018 20:14:16
Amen to that Big H mate.

23.) 17 Jun 2018 15:00:31
Ed02 reply to me is sensible and a very good reply, just cannot understand why there are so many thumbs down for it.

We need to learn from last season, where we seemed to sign a player a Day.

We look to have the left back ready to sign, after the World Cup .

I am sure a centre half, a more commanding midfielder and an additional forward are the tweaks we need.

But agree with Ed, we need to offload some players so it’s a case of balancing and not going all guns ho signing players quick, for the sake of it.



25 May 2018 09:10:17
I am on comment of not being particularly enamoured of having Marco Silva as Head Coach (I believe that is what he is under DoF Brands) but as that appears to be the wish of the Club so be it and of course I 100 percent will support. Having said that, I do not understand the statement 'Everton continue pursuit of Silva', is he a free agent or not?




24 May 2018 21:41:54
Everton were keen (quite right too) for their new DoF to run the rule off a few candidates before pressing ahead with the recruitment of Silva. I wonder if one of those candidates was Benitez.


1.) 25 May 2018 14:14:01
Wouldn’t we have to get permission to do that from Newcastle. I can’t see them allowing that without a media fuss.




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28 Jul 2021 08:38:29
Are Everton really badly run financially? I say this because when you hear about the likes of Chelsea, City, Liverpool offering (rumoured) huge sums for players and we are scrabbling about in the undergrowth, it does make me wonder.


{Ed002's Note - Everton have a lower income than those sides.}

1.) 28 Jul 2021 10:09:08
I think we really need to be realistic here. As Ed says, those clubs make so much more than us, they can then afford to pay more (both in fees and wages) under ffp guidelines.

Hopefully the new stadium boosts our income and closes the gap but its a long game to get to those heights (if we ever do) .

2.) 28 Jul 2021 10:22:32
We are paying the price for wasting hundreds of millions in the Walsh era.

{Ed025's Note - moshiri was new at the game BP and took advice from some very shady characters mate, lets hope he has learnt his lesson and can get us back on a sound financial footing, it will obviously have a short term impact on transfers but we will just have to bite the bullet im afraid..

3.) 28 Jul 2021 10:34:40
Spot in ed025
Also with the new stadium on its way will bring more income an help the ffp issue l. Also ushminov poking his nose in something is going on hopefully it a positive for us.

{Ed025's Note - yeah callum we are going through a period of augmentation and its all about the future, lets just hope we are all around to see it come to fruition mate..

4.) 28 Jul 2021 11:23:54
Definitely, ed025. It looks as though we are addressing the ffp issues this season and it something that needs sorting. I don't mind the club being frugal, as long as the players brought in for cheap are good enough to get into the squad. There's a good few players with their contract near to expiring so we will save a few quid in the end. Hopefully, the mistakes made when Moshiri first arrived won't be repeated.

{Ed025's Note - lets hope not BP mate..

5.) 28 Jul 2021 12:41:36
When we were successful under Moyes, we did not shell out 30 or 40 million on every player we bought. I think, and hope, that we are learning from the mistakes of the last few seasons. Initially, getting rid of the dead wood and trimming the wage bill is the right approach, and this is going well. It will also free up budget for more signings. Nothing wrong with being cautious. No one’s expecting us to win the league, but we can be competitive with a balance of hard work, which should come with Rafa in charge, and quality on the ball. Think we forget that we already have some real quality in the squad, and focus on those who aren’t so great (Eg Iwobi) . I’m quietly confident that we’re heading in the right direction.

6.) 28 Jul 2021 12:56:38
We weren't successful under Moyes. We didn't win anything, and the division was also less competitive. We also signed plenty of terrible players, just didn't cost us as much.

7.) 28 Jul 2021 13:12:42
Have to agree with EFCONE, I don't think we were successful under DM because we never won a thing under him. He did quite well with some signings but he also bought some terrible players. Just treading water in the premier league isn't enough, for me at least, I want to see us aim a lot higher. It might take a while but we've been, by and large, patient since 1995 for silverware, another year or two while we regroup as a club isn't too much to ask for.

8.) 28 Jul 2021 14:07:59
Qualifying for the champions league on a shoestring would be seen by most as a success. Moyes’ flops didn’t cost 30 million. We will have to build towards success in a very competitive league.

9.) 28 Jul 2021 16:11:25
Maybe so, JB, but qualifying once out of 11 years doesn't sound as impressive mate.
He steadied the ship and competed above our weight, no doubting that, but it's a bit of a stretch to suggest we were successful.

10.) 28 Jul 2021 17:25:52
Take that back BP, Kroldrup was amazing! :-D.

11.) 28 Jul 2021 17:31:41
We qualified for the qualifying stage of the CL. However, Moyes was as always too cautious. Moyes done a great job at steadying the ship. And there it stayed for 11 years.

Hes done a decent job at West ham and may have learnt from past mistakes. However, he's not a winner.

As for us, we need to become self sustaining, or UEFA and the EPL need to give their heads a wobble and let chairmen invest their money into clubs that is in line with today's prices for players.

Stop mortgaging the clubs to pay for it and have it as investment with a limited return or allow 0% loans from owners that is in line with their disposable expenditure. Or allow them to have inflated sponsorship with no financial return.

The point being, there is a very small amount of clubs that have gone to the wall because of investment. Let them invest.

12.) 28 Jul 2021 18:04:45
How could we forget him, BM! Sadly enough, we signed plenty more that we're worse.

13.) 28 Jul 2021 19:28:10
Moyes had 22 shots at winning a cup with at the time a decent team. His overcautious approach meant we were never even close to winning a cup.
Hardly successful.



24 Jul 2021 06:15:03
On current form out of Harry Wilson and Townsend, I would say Wilson at £10 mill is the better deal. That to me says a lot about our FFP situation.


{Ed025's Note - i have to disagree DFS, wilson is an awful player and a one trick pony, takes a fine free kick but thats it mate, andros cost nothing so is by far the better deal for me..

1.) 24 Jul 2021 08:09:12
There's a reason he's going to Fulham Bill.
Don't think that lot would sell to us either but it's a no from me.
I think Townsend might just be another Barry/ Distin/ gouge type signing and suprise us.

2.) 24 Jul 2021 13:45:04
With Townshend your getting a good work rate and he will shoot once he cuts inside. How many of our wingers cut inside thdn passed it to middle of the box or back to defense?

3.) 24 Jul 2021 17:32:31
All fair points.

{Ed0666's Note - I keeping my mouth shut

4.) 24 Jul 2021 17:40:59
Put it this way - when we played Palace I never worried about Townsend.

5.) 24 Jul 2021 17:44:13
We have to trust Rafa ( God that doesn't sound right ) he worked with Townsend at Newcastle so knows his ability and just as important his attitude. I will say having watched the boys training the speed they're moving the ball and their intensity is sky high compared to what's gone before . As for Gray, he's one of those players that have got nowhere near their potential. If we can get the best out of him it will be an inspired signing.

6.) 24 Jul 2021 19:40:13
Totally agree megsey. townsend seems to have a great attitude and workrate and both players have pace. The early signs are that we have moved away from throwing money at players. I fancy both of them to prove to be good signings but worst case scenario if things don't work out for one or both of them it won't cripple us for years to come.



06 Nov 2020 21:23:54
How did Newcastle beat us!


{Ed025's Note - with ease actually..

1.) 07 Nov 2020 07:28:10
Our second string are not good enough mate.

{Ed025's Note - very much so GB, i was hoping that with the influx of the new players we brought in it would spur them on to better things, guess i was wrong mate..

2.) 07 Nov 2020 08:06:39
Our players from last season are capable of beating teams like Newcastle but only at Goodison. Its away from home that the mentality of the players fails.

{Ed025's Note - im not so sure that home advantage makes much difference in these times smit, we lost to newcastle because of the negative play from the players we brought in as replacements mate, well thats my view anyway..

3.) 07 Nov 2020 10:19:31
I really think Carlo's player choice and formation was what killed it Ed.

{Ed025's Note - i think so too chris, i was a bit scathing of him last week for that exact reason mate..



06 Nov 2020 19:48:56
Holgate fit is a bonus. Play Holgate as DM in front of back four release Alan CM with Dacre. Gordon left Rodriguez right then DCL.


{Ed025's Note - i would put holgate in next to keane and drop mina DFS, he is a liability mate..

1.) 06 Nov 2020 19:55:42
Yes ed so would I. Or even play 5 at the back Keane CB Holgate and Godfrey either side. James at Cam with DCL and tosun up front.

{Ed025's Note - we look like we are going to concede from every attack when mina is in there chris, i think hes a nice guy but he makes far too many mistakes for me mate..

2.) 06 Nov 2020 20:15:17
What's with the love for Tosun lately and the clamour for him to be included in the team? We discovered long ago that he simply isn't good enough. Taking out our wide play options to play Tosun as a 2nd striker is an awful idea in my opinion.
One wild option could be to try Gordon as the number 10 and give Nkounkou a try as wide left - Carlo tried it last year with Sidibe on the right when we were short on men so it's not out of the realms of possibility.

{Ed025's Note - i think supporters were just happy to see a new face worcester, they are fed up with the same dross being paraded every week when we have a couple out, siggy, iwobi, bernard and delph being rotated and none of them worth a carrot hardly gives your adrenalin flow a boost mate, i agree he is not good enough but at least it was something different..

3.) 06 Nov 2020 20:49:02
We discovered no such thing Worcester. Like we discovered nothing about DCL. Both are box players. Carlo has said the same about both. Feed them.

4.) 06 Nov 2020 20:39:15
Something different yes Ed025, and i can definitely see that point, but my heart sinks at the thought of Tosun being our best option left to use. The guy is only useful for an aerial route one threat but DCL easily utilizes that option anyway, i think he's up there as one of the very best attackers in the league for outjumping a defender for a headed chance.
If we are to take anything against Man Utd, we either need to bring back more wide pace to get crosses into the box or someone in the number 10 role who will drag the defenders out of position all game long to free up DCL. Sadly that's an option we are missing right now.
Of course it's all about personal opinions and we all have differing ones, but i just can't get the slightest bit excited by the inclusion of Tosun. If we go 2 strikers then why not try the young lad who was on the bench last week instead. Simms was it?

{Ed025's Note - simms looks a great prospect worcester and hopefully he will get a chance soon enough, but its the same old problemwith us mate lack of creativity to make chances for the forwards, maybe if we get isco or someone like that things will change but for now it looks like its a grind for the next couple of months mate..

5.) 07 Nov 2020 07:50:04
Play Gordon in no.10 role. Or in place of Gomes with a free reign going forward. Has the energy and skill to drag the defenders all over the shop.



27 Oct 2020 09:17:54
After 6 games the Prem is still sorting itself out. Can see us and Villa falling away (7th or 8th for us but would snatch your arm off for a given 6th) , with the usual suspects coming through. See what happens in January.


1.) 27 Oct 2020 11:24:08
DFS, I am hoping for us to keep in touching distance with the leading pack and tbh mate, right now I can't get my head round the situation with no fans in the stadium etc .
Could it affect things in a really extraordinary way or is it business as usual?

2.) 27 Oct 2020 14:13:17
We were never going to get all replacements in the last window will take another couple at least, Team had a blip on Sun but will get better.

3.) 27 Oct 2020 18:15:37
I think you'll be fighting for top four, don't be so harsh on your team. To do it year in year out need a bit of squad depth added but your first 11 will compete with most.
It will be a topsy turvy season with plenty of injuries and players testing positive/ isolating. Around 75 points will put you in touching distance of top four. That's 20 wins from the remaining 32 games. Think your more then capable of that.

{Ed025's Note - i still worry about our squad depth WYred but this is a very strange season in very strange times mate...so why not..

4.) 27 Oct 2020 18:45:21
Thats your weak link but plenty are in the same boat united with fernandes, spurs with son and kane and Chelsea but that's more about lamps being inexperienced and arsenal can't score at the minute. I genuinely think its anyones game plus City also have loads of injuries and it still remains to be see how we do.

5.) 27 Oct 2020 22:16:30
We've scored the 4th highest amount of points in the prem since Ancelotti took over so that makes me think we can do better than 6th.

6.) 27 Oct 2020 22:18:42
If we can address a couple of areas in Jan which isn’t far off
A cheeky loan at RB for cover ahead of a new starter in the summer, think Seamus has been amazing and could still do great as backup
Depth at striker, saw Milik could be available for 6.5m as will have just 6 month’s left on his contract
See what else happens.

7.) 28 Oct 2020 09:49:55
When you consider our injury list and suspensions
Two right backs
Two centre halves
One left back
One defensive midfielder
One right wing / striker,

Plus we have people obviously struggling with injuries but playing and people coming back from injury and needing game time, and people playing out of position

I think we’re doing more than okay, previously with that many out we’d be relegation fodder,

We just need to survive the Newcastle game I’d be happy with any points we can obviously a win keeps us top and then the international break may just give us a chance to get people back and firing on all cylinders again


{Ed025's Note - yeah BigC we are doing very well considering, the players that came in last week though need to either step up or ship out, we cant afford passengers and i would sooner bring in the young lads instead of these prima-donnas mate..




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31 Aug 2021 23:23:59
Look taking account of financial constraints for me Everton have done good business. The only money millstone left is Rodrigues, he now has to grow his cajones man size and show his willingness to earn his not unsubstantial wages. We have wingers that can cross the ball and we have 3 strikers that will work their socks off.




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31 Aug 2021 18:15:04
Pauly top 10 will be good in Rafa's first season.




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31 Aug 2021 18:12:32
Not just clear the air talks. Came about after his Social Media rant and then Evertons Loan offer but with apparent derisory options. I am not surprised.




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12 Aug 2021 07:25:12
There are limits it is true but EUFA's own rule on sponsorship injection for instance is in my opinion wide open to bending. City and PSG have certainly got round FFP to some extent in the past. Moshri and Usmanov are no mugs, we (Everton) will be okay.




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22 Jul 2021 12:22:18
Must have been in your dreams Bobslad. Moyes would like him if others (Lingard) , cannot be brouhht in.





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15 Sep 2021 21:55:44
Gormly not looking that big now!




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13 Sep 2021 09:12:24
What happened to giving players thorough medicals prior to signing?


{Ed025's Note - we have always been a soft touch DFS..



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13 Sep 2021 09:11:34
What happened to giving players thorough medicals prior to signing?




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12 Sep 2021 10:22:02
No idea how Rondon trains but Ronaldos physic, fitness and workrate is no accident or freak of nature, it is down to shear hard work and practice, practice, practice, building and enhancing his not inconsiderable ability. If Rondon brings half as much, we will have a winner.




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09 Sep 2021 07:22:26
Who does he play for?