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16 Feb 2020 20:25:03
Everton to end their sponsorship with sportpesa at the end of the season.
Cue a big sponsorship deal from uncle Alisher.

Smit666

1.) 16 Feb 2020 20:47:16
Think you could be right matey.


2.) 16 Feb 2020 21:41:38
I am pretty sure Smitt is right.


3.) 16 Feb 2020 22:05:02
Would a big sponsor shirt deal from usmanov go towards solving our ffp problems or are they already beyond being helped.


4.) 16 Feb 2020 23:52:09
Would be no surprise to see megafon on the kits next season.
Whoever we end up with as shirt sponsors hopefully we don’t end up with another gambling company.


5.) 17 Feb 2020 01:48:12
Everton will have to tread very carefully in regards to any of Alisher Usmanovs companies sponsoring stadiums, shirts etc, Moshiri is clearly linked to Usmanov, any sponsorship deals will have to be proven to be legitmaly worth the companies investment, in terms of the stadium sponsorship, there will need to be proof that there were multiple bidders for the naming rights, and not just one bid of a multi-year multi-million pound contract.


6.) 17 Feb 2020 06:56:26
There doesn't need to be proof of multiple bidders for naming rights. If only one company made an offer then that's what you would have to accept else be without a sponsor.
We may need to prove that it is in the realms of correct value, that the deal isn't (x) amount more than realistic offers should be, but amount of bidders doesn't really come into it.


7.) 17 Feb 2020 14:09:44
Well Chevrolet pay Utd around 65m, and we were getting less than 10 from Sports Pesa. So I would imagine there is a lot of scope for improvement.


8.) 17 Feb 2020 18:30:52
There’s a large discrepancy between top six sponsorship deals and 7th down. So if Usm or Megafon come in with a top six sized offer it will look suspect. If a company unrelated to Everton offer a similar amount then there’s no real concerns. Occam’s razor, if it looks dodgey then it probably is.


9.) 17 Feb 2020 19:53:17
And if we finish above united this season and get a bigger sponsorship deal will that be ok?
The size of the deal isn't decided by league position. Every team starts the season outside the top 6.


10.) 17 Feb 2020 20:35:26
When you look at these figures you can see it’s not just the Sponsor it’s also what the kit manufacturer will pay!

10) Juventus - €93m per year (€51m from Adidas, €42m from Jeep)
9) Liverpool - €98.5m per year (€52.1m from New Balance, €46.3m from Standard Chartered)
8) Arsenal - €104.2m per year (€57.9 from Adidas, €46.3 from Emirates)
7) Bayern Munich - €106m per year (€66m from Adidas, €40m from T-Mobile)
6) Chelsea - €115.8m per year (€69.5m from Nike, €46.3m from Yokohama)
5) Manchester City - €127.4m per year (€75.3m from Puma, €52.1m from Etihad)
4) Paris Saint-Germain - €135m per year (€75m from Nike, €60m from Accor Live Limitless)
3) Barcelona - €160m per year (€105m from Nike, €55m from Rakuten)
2) Manchester United - €161m per year (€86.9m from Adidas, €74.1m from Chevrolet)
1) Real Madrid - €190m per year (€120m from Adidas, €70m from Emirates)


11.) 17 Feb 2020 22:44:01
The point is Smit, USM can’t throw money at us without it being looked at. But if a completely independent investor were to offer the same, then that would make the offer look more credible. The top six clubs have all had champ league history. We haven’t. That puts them in a bigger bidding pool than us. So if USM were to offer us money like we had some sort of champs league attraction when in all honesty we don’t, then like it or not, it looks suss.

{Ed002's Note - There has to be a reason for the investment - you cannot simply hand money over. The money for the option of naming rights will be looked at - and it would not be a shock to see perhaps a small percentage of it being counted for FFP.}


12.) 17 Feb 2020 23:52:14
The reason is we need uncle Usmanovs money to help us compete, the big boys have filled their boots and now the ladder has been removed to stop any other team trying to compete with them.

If the top teams can get over a hundred million on combined sponsorships all it is doing is making the gap even harder to close.

I think 30 Million a year is a fair amount to have Megafon on our shirts.

{Ed002's Note - Everton are working well outside of the rules and within a year or two will be charged. The are a light year away from meeting UEFA FFP.}


13.) 18 Feb 2020 08:51:40
Spurs have been in the top 6 for the last 10 years and have only just signed a bumper shirt deal, and it's still way short of some of the big teams.

Don't expect ours to rocket just because we break into the top 6. Top 6 just won't cut it, it's winning things that gets the big sponsors in.


14.) 20 Feb 2020 19:20:36
All this sponsorship is just the start, once we are in that stadium then the sponsorship money will increase as there is more commercial scope, don’t forget that this stadium is starting a bigger project, we do have to tread carefully with FFP which is why our squad budget is a mess.


 

 

08 Dec 2019 08:09:03
Great result yesterday, lots of passion and energy shown by the lads.
I'd give big Dunc the united game and let's see how he sets them up with a weeks training under his belt.

I'm hoping the 442 disappears, we were outnumbered in the middle yesterday and on another day chelsea could have scored a couple more.

Away from home we will need to win the battle in the middle for sure and with the same passion and energy we can get something from Old Trafford.

Smit666

1.) 08 Dec 2019 11:27:04
Smitt the 442 did disappear he took off Ricky for Tom. 442 got us into a position to win 451 meant we held on to that lead. Good in game management if you ask me. We were at home so starting with 442 for me is aggressive formation that sends a message to us as fans and the opposition, Everton are going to try to win the game. Away from home like you I would expect a different set up we do have quite a good counter attack when we are on form. Great start by big Dunc I think he may have seen his stock rise with both the management and some of the supporters that thought he may have been part of the problem with ex managers. If we want a manager with passion that loves the club he certainly provides that. I'm made up for the guy. Definitely one for the future in my opinion.


2.) 08 Dec 2019 12:02:39
Smit I don't care what was reported about the bond between the players and Silva, their just had to be a problem. For Ferguson to get the likes of Schneiderlin playing so much better speaks volumes to me. At present we have problems in the middle because of injuries but if all the players show the same passion, energy and desire that they show yesterday we will have little problem getting results and moving up the table. Hopefully we can recruit some good additions in January.


3.) 08 Dec 2019 12:06:46
While he get points Smit let him have a bit of a run mate, It will be interesting to see what he does at Utd .

Btw Smitty when DC sees you using his 'avi' he will go ape lol 🤣.


4.) 08 Dec 2019 13:54:44
I thought he made some very astute changes. Firstly was the 442 set up. Secondly we stopped pushing up to the half way line and getting caught out with the simple ball over the top. At least 3 of Liverpools goals were that simple. a simple ball over the top or through the middle and our defenders too slow to turn and defend. Thirdly, he stopped this stupid roll out of the ball from Pickford and the never ending crossfield passes that look like we will lose possession and concede. Forthly, we pressed. We pressed as a team. not just one or two players. we got into them in every position until we went back from 442 to 451. Finally DCL with Richy just behind him worked a treat. DCL looked this good in one other game this season but has toiled hard for little result over the season. mainly because he has been on his own. Sometimes he had wingers. but noone besides him to lay it off to. Yes this game Dunc got things right. let's see if he can continue now.


5.) 08 Dec 2019 13:54:57
Dunc probably told Morgan he would kick him round the training ground if he didn’t put a proper shift in!
To have pride in himself the shirt and the badge! And to earn the bloody good wages he’s paid!


6.) 08 Dec 2019 15:23:48
It was good to see him switch the formation to see out the game. Silva never had that in him.

I'd love him to get the United game, I'll be there and would love it if we could go and get something from that game. Even a draw would build confidence and start a bit of a run.

As for the Avatar, I picked it a few games ago (when things looked bad) but it has only just been approved.
Another win and I might have to change it back.


7.) 08 Dec 2019 15:48:11
Duncan Ferguson made it simple, no over complicated tactics, play for each other, if you lose the ball, chase it down, simple football that gets over complicated by Managers.

I would give Dunc the Leicester cup game without a shadow of doubt.

Yesterday the players got their identity and self belief back.

Let’s not rush in straight away for a new Manager, at least give Dunc a couple of games.


8.) 08 Dec 2019 16:35:26
You can have what ever formation you want, but Dunc got a performance out of every single player yesterday, the intensity was first class and what won us the game yes they could of scored more but so could we. Nice to see 442 and then change it later on, good in game management.


9.) 09 Dec 2019 21:02:32
I'd give big Dunc until the end of the month. United have got some form and Leicester are a great side, but Arsenal, Burnley and Newcastle could/ should be winnable. Then that gives the board plenty of time to select a new manager if they decide to go that way.


 

 

05 Dec 2019 16:58:35
This might sound a bit daft but wasnt Brands bought in to get the U23s and under 18s etc coached and playing the same style as the 1st team?
And if so, wouldn't it be an option to give Unsworth the reigns until the summer or a replacement is found?

He has the Under 23s playing well and in the same style (whatever that style is) the squad is in better shape than it was the last time he was given the role.

Anyway just a thought as he's not been mentioned this time.

Smit666

{Ed002's Note - I don't think there is much chance of that happen. DF for the weekend then Moyes - or a concerted effort for Marcelino as I have explained - but he is not keen.}


1.) 05 Dec 2019 19:27:15
Would Moyes work with a DOF Ed002? I seem to think he wants to run the show and play his style of play.

{Ed002's Note - He would but don't lose sight of Brands' role.I think they would be fine - and just maybe Brands will get a chance to do what he is best at. Else he will walk.}


 

 

24 Nov 2019 18:05:11
Rumour has it he's gone. Not confirmed but my mate who owns the chippy that Brands gets his deep fried octopus from says it's done.

Smit666

1.) 24 Nov 2019 18:42:23
Smit666 just heard same from my son.


2.) 24 Nov 2019 18:57:51
Social media really hotting up now. Rafa supposedly at Finch Farm at 4-30pm. I need to go and lay down lol.


3.) 24 Nov 2019 19:09:15
So Bill your son has confirmed that Brands gets his deep fried octopus from Smit's friends chippy or is it more tasty than that?


4.) 24 Nov 2019 19:10:01
Does he work at the chippy BCT?


5.) 24 Nov 2019 19:42:15
Someone else is posting that unsworth has told the U23’s he won’t be with them for a while 🤷🏻‍♂️
If Rhino does step in short term we might see some of the young talent 😍.


6.) 24 Nov 2019 20:14:57
Hasn’t this happened before?


7.) 24 Nov 2019 20:07:39
Bloody hell i've logged into the 'X Files' 🤭.


8.) 24 Nov 2019 21:41:20
So they held a exec board meeting on Saturday only for one of them to spill beans in local chippy, at least come up with something believable.

{Ed002's Note - It was the the curry house.)


9.) 24 Nov 2019 22:34:19
I think we got excited over nothing. I don't think he has gone. Can any of the eds enlighten us?

{Ed002's Note - Nothing has happened.}


10.) 24 Nov 2019 22:08:18
The comedy is not lost on you Trueblue.


11.) 25 Nov 2019 08:57:59
Actually Smitty TBM's retort was hilarious just don't tell him I said so 🤫.


12.) 25 Nov 2019 09:01:39
My bad, may not have been the same chippy. Son counts beans not chips, so mistaken.


13.) 25 Nov 2019 09:27:03
Silva has gone? Silva getting a vote of confidence from the board? 90% of fans want Silva out? make of it what you will.


 

 

08 Aug 2019 21:35:39
Probably get Zaha in January when he's had a grump for a few months and Palace are in the relegation zone. 😉.

Smit666

1.) 09 Aug 2019 08:20:47
Haha, could do but think that ship has sailed now, was probably our only shot are signing him, we have Iwobi at RW now so probably won’t be looking at that position for a while again. Hopefully his grump lasts into tomorrow so he’s poor against us or doesn’t play at all. 👍🏻.


2.) 09 Aug 2019 08:38:45
yeah zaha ship has sailed now i think, will look for younger if they were to go back in for a winger and move iwobi more central.


3.) 09 Aug 2019 09:32:27
Let's be positive and believe Silva will have them playing well enough that we don't need him.
We have a good strong squad now.

Fitting Bernard, Iwobi, Calvert Lewin, Richarlison, Kean into top 3 is a challenge

Sigardson, Gomes, Gbamin, Delph, Davies, Scheiderlin into middle 3 tough

And there's others who will be fighting to show that they deserve a chance as well

What great problems for Silva to have.

{Ed025's Note - very much so mate..


4.) 09 Aug 2019 11:11:17
Iwobi is a LW (another one) not a RW.


5.) 09 Aug 2019 13:16:13
Can’t see getting zaha - if that Eason cards would not sign Iwobi - could see centre half in Jan - that’s all we need. think that’s the last time we will see 5-6 coming in. hopefully Gibson, Ellis, Hollgate take there chance.


6.) 09 Aug 2019 15:07:07
BCT, Iwobi can play either wing or behind the striker so not just a LW, this is why he was bought due to this versatility.

{Ed002's Note - he plays nearly all games in his natural position of LW. The club did not buy him because he is versatile.}


7.) 09 Aug 2019 15:40:12
The move does allow richarlison to still play rw and may allow Bernard to play cam. Iwobi plays am for Nigeria and i think he was used as lw for arsenal due to their lack of depth on the wing positions. Iwobi is a hopeful signing but i would have preferred to sign a natural rw as that position needed to be addressed. I do wonder that if KM or YB don't move on, that they will integrate them into the squad until atleast January.


 

 

 

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20 Feb 2020 20:13:51
I have to say, after watching the Hammers since Moyes joined and against city last night, anyone who thought Moyes would bring organisation and fight back to our players if he came back would have been pretty upset about now.
Lucky escape blues.

Smit666

1.) 20 Feb 2020 21:40:27
Yep definitely dodged a bullet.


2.) 20 Feb 2020 21:55:38
He was never a here and now manager for me and was never going to install confidence in the players with his negative tactics and attitude. What I noticed more than how poor West ham are was how many empty seats there was in the stadium, current champions and one of the top teams in Europe due to money, yet money can't buy you fans.


3.) 21 Feb 2020 12:48:26
It’s mad to think that it was a close possibility of having either Moyes or Ancelotti. They are worlds apart.


4.) 21 Feb 2020 13:00:54
It was never Moyes or Ancelloti once Ancelloti became available. I was for Moyes because with the names realistically in the frame at the time he was the choice. Once Ancelloti hit the scene it was game over. Some of the hype, comments etc! on sites such as this have to be treated in the knowledge that this is a banter and rumour board.


5.) 21 Feb 2020 18:49:31
I was never for Moyes. Whether he was in the frame at the time Ancelotti was available or not, you just can’t fathom the gulf in reputation and trophies etc. West Ham will be put through a very nervous end of season with Moyes in charge.

{Ed025's Note - i was amazed any evertonian ever wanted him ace, west ham will get everything they deserve for appointing him imo mate..


6.) 21 Feb 2020 20:48:24
Best bit about Moyes at West Ham has to be when talking about West Ham and days Everton by mistake.


 

 

05 Jan 2020 15:11:09
Well if were ever going to beat them, today is the day with that 11 they've put out.

Smit666

1.) 05 Jan 2020 15:43:47
If we can't beat that squad we should forget about it.


2.) 05 Jan 2020 15:45:24
Definitely, we need to get on the front foot from the off and finally get that win at Anfield.


 

 

27 Dec 2019 12:35:57
A hard fought win yesterday but now it's time for Carlo to show us what he can do.
An away game (our arch nemesis) and against Newcastle aswell. This will be a really tough one, especially as they had a spanking by united.

A win or draw keeps us on the good run but with City up next I am hoping its 3 points.
COYB.

Smit666

1.) 27 Dec 2019 13:22:34
To be honest Smit, this isn't a quick fix. After season after season of mistakes, at last we have someone with a CV to be proud of so, I am the one advocating patience this time.


2.) 27 Dec 2019 17:05:02
That's good to hear Bill. Let's hope everyone gives him time.
He is what we have needed for a long time.


3.) 27 Dec 2019 17:35:54
I really think we have been mighty lucky to get C A.


4.) 27 Dec 2019 18:14:05
There are still a few key signings needed to make us top six. So I’m eager to see how our team looks come the start of next season. But it’s great to have someone at the helm who oozes with class and confidence.

So in the meantime it’s time to enjoy watching how the rest of this season plays out. And hopefully see all the nay sayers in the media swiftly dodge any questions about this mans appointment as our new Manager.


5.) 28 Dec 2019 00:01:47
Alright toffee ace, just out of interest Who do you think our key signings should be to make us top 6 contenders?


6.) 28 Dec 2019 06:23:07
I think we do need a couple of additions to the squad but, more important than anything else, is an attitude change from the team.
The great sides go out with the intention of winning every game, week in week out. We simply haven't had this mentality for seasons now. Its been a top 6 too good mentality or fragility away from home excuse.

This has to stop and hopefully we have a serial winner in CA who will insist on a killer instinct from the team whoever we are playing. Liverpool (I hate having to admit this) have it. Man City have it - we bloody need it, Starting at Newcastle today

COYB NSNO.


7.) 28 Dec 2019 08:06:10
I think we need a whole new spine. I'd go and get (if possible) Smalling, Docoure and Lacazette.


8.) 28 Dec 2019 08:27:22
I wouldn't be sure about those choices Smit. Smalling has been average for years and isn't good enough for United, I don't think he would be a good signing just on the basis that he's having a decent season in Italy. Lacazette I like but we haven't had great success paying over the odds for players arsenal don't want/ can't get in their team. Doucoure good player but think we would have to pay a huge amount for him and isn't Gbamin a similar sort of player?


9.) 28 Dec 2019 09:09:21
Agree toffeedavey, smaliing a big no from me definitely not an upgrade on Mina or Holgate. Doucore good player but think we should see what Gbamin has to offer before we spend in this area.


10.) 28 Dec 2019 13:11:59
Smalling is better than Keane so for me I'd have him as an upgrade.
I don't want to see keane play again.
Gbamin is an unknown at this moment and he may never be as good after the injury. Docoure gets goals and is a leader, I don't see why we can't have both in our squad.
Lacazette played in the right position will get 15-20 a season.


 

 

18 Dec 2019 13:10:44
What are the chances of a xmas Sharkopod Ed?

Smit666

{Ed002's Note - I am on the road until the 23rd - a maybe perhaps.}


1.) 18 Dec 2019 14:54:36
Thanks Ed.


2.) 18 Dec 2019 22:22:58
Safe travels Ed and to all the blues traveling over the festive period.


 

 

18 Dec 2019 13:09:48
Nzonzi linked with us again.
This transfer is turning into another Riquelme situation.

Smit666

1.) 18 Dec 2019 16:15:21
Perhaps a double signing with them both could be on the cards Smit 🤷🏻‍♂️.


 

 

 

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18 Feb 2020 08:51:40
Spurs have been in the top 6 for the last 10 years and have only just signed a bumper shirt deal, and it's still way short of some of the big teams.

Don't expect ours to rocket just because we break into the top 6. Top 6 just won't cut it, it's winning things that gets the big sponsors in.

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17 Feb 2020 19:53:17
And if we finish above united this season and get a bigger sponsorship deal will that be ok?
The size of the deal isn't decided by league position. Every team starts the season outside the top 6.

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04 Feb 2020 15:49:30
Yep a waste of 6 months wages for absolutely nothing.

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02 Feb 2020 21:36:19
The last manager didn't play him though. Might as well stuck with steklenburg and saved 6 months of an extra wage.

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02 Feb 2020 17:14:02
What an absolute waste of wages. Why did we get him in then?

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27 Feb 2020 13:40:37
That isn't how it works.
A player is bought for a fee and that fee is split over the length of his contract. A 40 million pound player on 5 mill wages a year signed on a 4 year deal would cost us 10mill plus his 5mill wages per season or 15 million a year.
The same player sold for 40 million doesn't mean we have 40 million, if he was 2 years into his contract he would still be on the books as owing 20 million, effectively he would be a 20 million pound player.

Siggy for instance will still stand us at around 15 million depending on what his exact purchase price was (45million? )

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26 Feb 2020 06:56:42
I'd extend his loan for another season if possible.

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24 Feb 2020 11:06:24
If only it was that easy just to sell them. Brands has tried but the last few are the hardest to shift, plus if we sell them we have to fill that spot. Also we don't know who Carlo wants to keep. He might love Schneids and Siggy and want to sell Bernard and Iwobi. We just don't know, we just know who we as fans don't want.

We are effectively -125million and that's before we know this years final number. Who knows what the sales of Gana, Vlasic, Onyekuru and Lookman will do to our P/ L for this year but the general consensus is we will lose 50-60 million. So unless we can guarantee 70-80 million from somewhere and no more major losses we are in a bit of trouble.

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22 Feb 2020 12:20:05
I'm not sure you understand the issue we have come June.

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22 Feb 2020 12:16:52
A draw wouldn't be a bad result, it would keep them below us and we really need to be beating Man u at home if we are serious europe contenders.
Chelsea strangely aren't brilliant at home so we have a good chance down there on the counter attack but I'd go at Arsenal from the whistle. One thing their players can't deal with is a bit of pressure and a kick here and there.

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