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30 Mar 2017 08:19:34
Hi Ed, any news on potential outgoings this summer. Namely Cleverly, Niasse, McGeady etc.

Thank you in advance.

{Ed002's Note - Hull have a cheapish option to buy Niasse at the end of his loan so we will see at the end of teh season. Lukaku will look to move on to achieve his goal of playing football at the highest level - Everton are at fault for screwing up the contract situation. Spurs interest in Ross Barkley has waned - we need to see if anyone pushes for him. Tom Cleverley has both Newcastle and Watford interested and Milan, subject to resolving another issue, want to make the loan of Gerard Deulofeu permanent.}

1.) 31 Mar 2017 11:00:00
Cheapish? I read a report that it was a £10m option so is that what represents cheapish?

2.) 01 Apr 2017 03:44:07
Cleverly has gone previous reports quoted 9 million which is a profit since we got him on a Free. Niasse is also in 8-10 million apparently. How did Everton screw up contract negotiations?
Ross was never likely to move I believe his agents are stirring the pot to get a better ideal, he loves playing for the Blues. just my opinion.



07 Feb 2017 11:14:34
Ed's, anyone, any sign of existing players signing new contracts? Namely Barkley and Robles who's contracts expire in less than 18 months. Lukaku has a little over 2 years left on his and there was talk of him signing a new one before Christmas. Albeit from his agent who may have been trying to ignite interest.

These are 3 players I'd certainly like to see tied down. I'm sure there are probably one or two others that I'm not aware of whose coming to the end of their contracts also.

{Ed001's Note - I don't know about Robles, but Barkley was keen to get a new contract and expected to sign one before the summer.}

1.) 07 Feb 2017 12:29:13
Thanks for that Ed001.

{Ed001's Note - welcome mate.}

2.) 07 Feb 2017 16:05:58
I was wondering the other day about Lukaku and his contract was said to be 99% done so did it get finalised and signed?

{Ed025's Note - not as far as i know ST, i heard it was close to being sorted but have had no confirmation yet mate..

3.) 07 Feb 2017 19:52:09
Ta muchly Ed.

{Ed025's Note - anytime mate..

4.) 08 Feb 2017 08:38:41
Read an article that Lukaku signed a contract last December earning over £100,000 a week and has a get out clause of £80m. It also said Chelsea are going to give that amount in the summer as Costa is going to China after the bust up with Conte.

What a load of ballony! As you say Ed025 he did not sign the contract last December. Shows how much the papers make up.



21 Jan 2017 23:49:48
There is no longer a top 6 in the premiership. There is a top 7 and we are in it. According to Pulis anyway. He's neutral so that's good enough for me.

Next I expect us to be a major force within that top 7. Going to be a good summer.



10 Jan 2017 22:48:10
Ed002 any info on the future of some players that possibly might be leaving Everton. Namely Gibson, Cleverly, McCarthy and the 2 that there are rumours about Niasse and Kone. Apparently Hull and QPR are their destinations.

Just wondering does it look like any leaving us this month? Happy with the way the incomings are developing. If we get MS it will be a good window even if its stopped at that.

{Ed002's Note - Niasse will almost certainly go to Hull. McCarthy interests Celtic and Crystal Palace with West Brom and Newcastle United probably out-muscled in their interest.}

1.) 11 Jan 2017 07:06:17
Niasse deal to hull almost done shame it's only on loan, But BBC report Scheiderlin deal done

2.) 11 Jan 2017 07:46:06
Thank you Ed002. I take it there is no real developments happening at the moment for anyone else.

{Ed002's Note - I have explained what I know.}



22 Jun 2016 23:24:26
Ed, any truth to Everton agreeing release clause for Sneijder? Seen some reports of £5.6m fee agreed.

Also what's the story with financial fair play? Technically are we allowed to have a net spend of the reported £100m we are supposed to be spending this summer.

{Ed002's Note - Southampton made an enquiry about Sneijder in December 2014 but didn't follow it up - although it substantiates that there has been interest from Kopeman in the past. Lazio have discussed him with Galatasaray but they have stepped back because of the wages being demanded. Their possible willingness to sell in the summer may be driven by a need to reduce wages rather than any transfer fee as he is still seen as an asset by the club - but the club has a European ban to deal with. Forget anything about any release clause. I am not aware of any firm interest from Everton at this time but it doesn't mean that there isn't.

The additional income is in next season's budget (starting July 1) and comes from the additional television money. If there is an issue it might be wages rather than transfer fees.}

1.) 23 Jun 2016 01:56:12
Thanks, Ed002.

{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}

2.) 23 Jun 2016 09:08:01
Thank you Ed002.

{Ed002's Note - No problem.}




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23 Jun 2018 18:06:16
Seeing as the news on street is we have to let 10 or more players go I thought I'd start a thread on it. Myself and Blue-tit talked about players to keep or on an earlier thread. Here is the ten I'd like to see go.


With Mori and Robles already gone. That would be a big clear out. A needed one.

I can see some argument for keeping Stek as number 2 and possibly Rooney. As for the rest I'd be happy to see them move on and create room for others coming in.

Anyone want to keep some of the above players? If so, why? Or maybe there is some other players you would rather go on the list.

1.) 23 Jun 2018 18:21:37
Stek is the only one i'd keep as i don't think we could get a backup keeper as good for the money we wold get for him.

2.) 23 Jun 2018 19:15:52
Spot on NBTB.

3.) 23 Jun 2018 20:33:58
NBTB All depends on what the money people say at Everton regarding your list. Weigh up loss of transfer fee initial outlay to savings on wages. Either way the World Cup doesn't exactly enable Everton (and others) in particular to hit the ground running. I really do hope that Mr Moshri (and his advisors) are now wholly committed to the new Management/ Coaching Team for the long run because truth be told it is a long term project. Our fans not known for patience really do need to find it now.

4.) 23 Jun 2018 21:12:57
Good post NBTB mate.

5.) 23 Jun 2018 21:18:17
True ktf1950. Squad needs to be trimmed. Players are going. They need to go for this overhaul to happen.

6.) 23 Jun 2018 23:15:00
Can't argue with any of them NBTB. Understand keeping Stek as it's tough getting a back up.

I just hope we don't do the crazy buying of players from last year. Just a few quality players.

By the sounds of it we have a much more prudent plan this year.

7.) 24 Jun 2018 02:15:09
You could add Galloway and Browning in there for me.

I think Gueye, Davies, besic, jmac benagime, Dowell, klasson, Rooney, Schneiderlin is ridiculous - how did we get into that position. 4-5 of them have to go surely.

Also scary how lots of very
recent signings who cost lots (wages too) seem like they have no real future: Rooney, klasson, Sandro, Vlacic, Martina, bollasi- I’d also question the logic in Walcott (age) . our best winger is lookman - surely needs to be one of first names in the sheet

You just wonder where the goals will come from next season - lot of pressure on Toulson. Only other goal threats really: sig, Walcott, lookman? Dowell and Niasse if he stays

Need to be careful we don’t bring in players who stop the likes of DCL, Davies, kenny, Dowell, Robinson, Hollgate, Benhigime developing - no easy answers - i'd personally go all out for a striker and a centre back. Let’s see what lookman, Dowell, Davies can do. Bring Robinson through also - young team full of energy.

8.) 24 Jun 2018 07:22:17
I wouldn't argue with your list NBTB but would add a few more on the basis that I don't think all your list will go and we really do need to trim this squad

I'd add Sando and Klassen unless Brands/ Silva really think they can make the starting 11. I know there are some that say they haven't had chances but really they have and haven't been able to take them which indicates a weakness in the Premier League

I think Besic and McCarthy would also struggle to get in the side but one of them might be a good cover. Galloway and Browning I'm not sure of - they haven't exactly done great on loan. Are they going to develop to the level we require?

9.) 24 Jun 2018 08:31:22
I'd be interests to see how many of those named actually move on NBTB in the next 2 years and who stays.

Let's see what Silva can do with them all first. Surely he'll know quite soon who is willing to play his style of football and who is capable of doing it well; as well as those surplus to requirement.

10.) 24 Jun 2018 10:25:54
I did think of putting Galloway and Browning on it. Only reason I didn't was after selling Mori and Williams on that list we would be light at centre back if no one was signed. I know they would not be ideal but imho your better giving youth a chance than keeping the likes of Williams. Could easily add them to the list.

McCarthy and Besic could easily be added too. The reason I didn't is their commitment when playing is unquestionable and they are both still in their mid twenties. If their injuries persist by all means let them go.

Klaasson for some reason I totally forgot about. Unfortunately can't see him getting into the first team at this stage so I'd move him on.

Sandro on the other hand I would try and keep and give a proper chance. He could fit into Silva's style in my opinion.

In general I would love to see youth given a good chance. Obviously blended in with the more senior players. All the young players mentioned above are worth given a chance imho rather than keeping the players on that list. The noises coming from the new team at the club indicate that they will get that under Silva. Hope it comes to fruition. I believe it will. We will all need patience with it. Seems the approach is more shrewd from here on in. It will be a long road but one worth taking imho.

11.) 24 Jun 2018 11:05:40
Schneiderlin could stay, he has quality and it’s ilto the manager to get him to perform like he can.
The rest are surplus, I like Bolasie when he’s on his game in fairness to him he returned from a lengthy injury.

The good thing is and I hope it continues that we do our business quietly until confirmed. Then announce it.

12.) 24 Jun 2018 15:34:33
Agree with all that Robbie.

13.) 24 Jun 2018 20:40:20
Used to be of the same opinion of them two Robbie but had enough. Hope they prove me wrong in the new season and hit the ground running.

14.) 25 Jun 2018 09:19:28
wouldn't flog oumar, the lads a nuisance and somehow gets goals, surely good enough for a squad player he's proved he can score goals, cup games etc he'd do a job.



13 Feb 2018 10:27:30
11 fixtures left. Only 2 teams that will be difficult. The dark side and Man City. We should be picking up a lot of points from the rest. 9 very winnable fixtures. Should see us climb the table to 7th.

I'm one who is supporting SA. However I honestly say if he doesn't get 7th by the the end of the season its a failure. We are in a very good position to do it. Burnley are struggling as of late. I'm not one to give out about managers generally and have stood up for SA but he has to get 7th.

1.) 13 Feb 2018 10:39:38
I stand to be corrected here but if he manages to get us into 7th and Europe he will become the first ever Premiership manager to take a team out of a relegation battle and into the top 7 in the same season.

2.) 13 Feb 2018 10:43:37
Nice post NBTB mate, hope you are right but I do think you are in a dreamworld?

3.) 13 Feb 2018 10:55:29
I would love him to get us to 7th mate and honestly think it is achievable, we need to improve our away record to do it though.

I need to personally show more support for SA he is after-all our manager.

4.) 13 Feb 2018 11:00:19
I think 7th is doable but not an achievement. And I don’t think SA can do anything between now and the end of the season that can convince me he deserves anther year.

He has delivered to a degree what was required of him but nothing else. Let’s be honest, surely the 18 months on his contract are for 6 to get us out of trouble and the other 12 to secure a good handshake when the inevitable happens in the summer.

I respect what the guy does so well and my goodness we needed it. But if this is the sum of our ambition, I’m going to need to sit in a dark room for a while.

7th, when so many this season are struggling is just plain average. I do understand it’s an improvement from where we are but come on, another 12 months of this guy and we are looking at a very forgettable 2018/ 19.

5.) 13 Feb 2018 11:52:22
I agree Toffee Ace. For me, despite the fact that 7th was the best we were ever going to finish by the time he took over, the standard in the rest of the league is so bad that we've only won 5 games in 2 and a half months and we are still in with a shout.

So given that we can't realistically finish higher than 7th for me it's about performances and results. We need to get a good team going, dominate teams around us and show that we are the 7th best team in the league. If that happens I'll give San a chance, as I don't believe that the players are as poor as some people on here woupd have you believe.

6.) 13 Feb 2018 13:19:01
Stig, dreamworld? Even people who don't rate or want Sam say its achievable.

7.) 13 Feb 2018 13:25:20
Won’t happen we are poor, poor team. Think it’s a little arrogant to rule out those currently above us, and those just below us. Let’s see what people think after the Watford game.

8.) 13 Feb 2018 13:52:00
Woburnblue, I think there’s always a chance given there’s only 2 points in it. Burnley were crap against Swansea. Leicester are by no means certs for 7th either. Yes we are playing some grot at the moment but to say it won’t happen is as pessimistic as saying it will is arrogant.

9.) 13 Feb 2018 14:07:09
Couldn't of put it better myself Toffee Ace.

10.) 13 Feb 2018 14:55:12
Ok I would love to be optimistic but have a look at Leicesters run in compared to ours and then see if you still think 7th is achievable.
Our next 5 games are Watford, Burnley both away, Brighton at home, Stoke away then city at home. At best with the way we play away from home you should say we pick up a point from each away game and 3 at home to Brighton and 0 from city, that's 6 points and the magic 40 point mark. Let's look at Leicester's 5 games, they have Stoke, Bournemouth and Arsenal at home with 2 away games at West Brom and Brighton. So let's say they collect a point at each away game, which they should at a bare minimum and collect 7 points from the 3 very winnable home games, that's 9 points from 15 compared to our 6 from 15 and puts them on 44 points 4 clear of us, we then play Lpool at home and our record against our neighbours is well, its embarrassing, meanwhile Leicester have a home game against Newcastle so by the end of this round of fixtures we could find ourselves 7 points behind Leicester.
I would love to share the optimism that 7th is achievable, it would be if we had a manager who set a team up to win away from home, which we don't, I reckon we will finish 9th myself due to our away record.
Just for the record as well Burnley's next 6 are home games against Saints, us and Chelsea, I would say 5 points from them 3, West ham, West Brom and Watford away, using the same 1 point at each away game that's 3 points and 8 from 18 and puts them on 44 points and 4 ahead of us.
Of course this is just my guess, but I can only see the teams above us going further ahead rather than us clawing it back, would love to be wrong but doubt it.

11.) 13 Feb 2018 16:22:11
Fair point Bluegray. But since the middle of December both teams have been pretty bad. Leicester have only won 2 out of 9 and Burnley haven’t one any in their last 9. Both teams have their troubles right now as do we. And whilst those predictions you’ve made are very reasonable, when I look at the recent form I still think there’s a fair shout for us.

12.) 13 Feb 2018 16:42:51
So what your saying is we will get seventh because we won’t be quite as bad as the rest of the crap in the league. Am I a pessimist? Not really just a realist, and personally think 10th is where we will end up.

13.) 13 Feb 2018 16:55:59
To achieve and remain at 7th is possible but as others have said it needs a change of selection and tactics from Sam toward away games. At present because of this approach all it takes is a blip at home and we slip back down again.

{Ed025's Note - i wont be very happy if sam sacrifices away games DFS, its a recipe for disaster and never mind it sapping confidence what about them poor buggers who travel the country following the team?, i have to be honest with you if he starts that nonsense again i will be calling for his head..

14.) 13 Feb 2018 20:46:44
We should be going to Watford, Stoke, Swansea and Burnley and attacking them, yet I feel this won't happen and Sam will revert to type and play Schneids and Gueye and leave a single man up top isolated.

Watford will attack us and leave gaps and we should be exploiting this, we have a settled midfield in Rooney, Gueye and Davies and they seem to have an understanding so why break them up just because its an away game? We should only change a winning side if we have injuries, yet Sam seems to change it every time an away game pops up! The only way I would sacrifice one from that midfield 3 was to go 2 up top.



04 Feb 2018 11:49:05
Any chance of a poll Ed? Where do people think we are going to finish this season?

{Ed033's Note -

Everton Table Finish Poll

1.) 04 Feb 2018 16:20:20
top half just.

{Ed025's Note - very optimistic mate..

2.) 04 Feb 2018 16:28:20
Much appreciated Ed033. Don't mind revealing my vote. 7th, the highest that was put in after 33 votes. Timing is of a negative mindset after the defeat yesterday. Still if you go by this site we are up and down like a yo yo. Hard to remain positive when we are in the middle of a bad patch. Future is bright despite yesterday's defeat.

{Ed033's Note - Maybe you need another poll asking who do you think should be the next Everton manager?

3.) 04 Feb 2018 20:35:14
Not for me Ed033. Hate this thing of changing manager as soon as things get tough.



02 Jan 2018 23:37:40
Thank you for the posts below BobbyC. My opinion on Garbutt too. Just seems he is not deemed good enough.

P.S. you are a follower of the Cowpat Sid club or you are Cowpat Sid?

He is greatly missed on this site :-(.

1.) 03 Jan 2018 00:45:48
NBTB: as I understand it, Cowpat Sid appeared on the television show “Stars in Their Eyes”; after saying to the compère, “Tonight, I’m going to be Glenn Miller”, he walked through the doors and was never seen again ;-) Since then, he has become an almost-mystical figure on this forum.

Rumour has it that he was shot down over the English Channel. I don’t know if it was by one of the Eds flying a Messerschmitt - or some other Fokker ;-)
By the way, “The Cowpat Sid Appreciation and Memorial Society” is not a religious organisation - it is non-profit and non-prophet; the only article of faith is belief in Everton Football Club, whose Holy Trinity is Kendall. Ball and Harvey and whose Messiah was Alex Young ;-)

2.) 03 Jan 2018 09:15:52



25 Dec 2017 14:47:07
Happy Christmas GuernseyBlue, Grumpy and all fella toffees. Eds fantastic work on the site. I thank you.

1.) 25 Dec 2017 15:13:23
Happy Christmas mate, I hope you have a good day and a wonderful meal.

2.) 25 Dec 2017 17:53:58
Happy Christmas to all on here from snowy and cold Connecticut.

3.) 25 Dec 2017 18:13:02
You to Mike, best wishes.

4.) 25 Dec 2017 23:21:42
Hey BlueMike. Merry Christmas to you too. Sister in-law lives in Danbury Connecticut. Got a picture this morning with plenty of snow. Getting to -20 degrees later this week. Mind yourself and enjoy the game tomorrow.

{Ed002's Note - I know Danbury.}

5.) 25 Dec 2017 23:50:35
In Essex Ed001. Happy Christmas.

{Ed002's Note - CT.}

6.) 26 Dec 2017 01:45:49
Thanks NBTB, we are in Oxford, CT which is very close to Danbury. Up here to see the kids and six grandchildren. They can keep this cold weather, back to Florida for the winter on Dec.31st. Will definately enjoy the game tomorrow and expect us to win 3-1,

{Ed002's Note - Enjoy man.}




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01 Sep 2018 14:11:31
Taken edge off? How can people come to such conclusions when neither Besic or McCarthy have played for Everton since there horrific injuries. Fair enough if you want to sell them and you don't think they are valuable to club. Would love to see both given a chance again. Boro are over the moon they got Besic again.



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31 Aug 2018 09:52:40
Hope to god you are right Toldyaso.



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30 Aug 2018 07:49:35
Time will tell.



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29 Aug 2018 21:19:38
Really rate him myself ktf1950. It is a pity. Would love him to get a good chance but if he wants to go the show is over.



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29 Aug 2018 20:27:59
That's all well and good DaveW1878. I'd be all for that. Only thing is it all goes out the window IF he wants to leave. Don't think there is many that wants Lookman gone if he wants to stay.




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14 Sep 2018 08:54:58
Coleman and McCarthy had serious injuries degsyp. Don't think they wanted career threatening injuries and I defiantly don't think they bumped into players and got injured.

Both are lucky that they can play again.



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10 Sep 2018 18:59:07
Degsyp you never were or never will be surpassed by your rambling on other subjects! Surprised no one else commented on that :-)



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05 Sep 2018 09:34:52
Don't think its that crazy degsyp. I think Smit666 was just assessing how we have done so far. We can only go by what has happened so far. Everything else is hearsay.

The squad does look like it will improve with those coming back. Pity we didn't make better use of the kind start we got in terms of fixtures. Still in the real world this is the sort of thing that happens.



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31 Aug 2018 20:50:40
Made me chuckle Bunkbeds. See what you started :-)



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30 Aug 2018 22:21:44
Not alone Aussie Mick. I made the same comments myself that I would prefer to keep Sandro than Niasse. Good to know there is others out there who share some of my views.