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20 Feb 2020 22:37:36
52,888 capacity. Don't tell me we've got another gambling sponsor lined up. Fingers crossed it's just coincidence.

21 Feb 2020 07:45:35
I’d imagine a coincidence, the plans have been in the pipeline long before they considered getting rid of Sportpesa. I thought it was going to be 51878.

21 Feb 2020 09:21:34
Managed to get another thousand because they're going to ban fat arses.

{Ed001's Note - so Ed025 won't be able to ever see you play in the new stadium? That's a shame, at his age you don't get many pleasures left in life.}

21 Feb 2020 19:29:46
He could purchase two seats Ed001, hopefully next to each other!

{Ed001's Note - he would probably need 3, I hear he has been putting on the pounds recently....}

24 Feb 2020 23:32:04
It's going to be 60k with safe standing imo.

19 Feb 2020 07:24:56
Ed002 I appreciate this may be a bit of a vague question so shoot me down if you have no idea. But you've nentioned player sales would be needed to help towards ffp, do you gave any idea who we might be looking to, or happy to, sell? And is there any interest in any of them?!

{Ed002's Note - Aside from the fringe players who do not have significant value, nope. Obviously there is money in the likes of Gylfi Sigurdsson and Morgan Schneiderlin.}

19 Feb 2020 09:29:23
Happy for either or both of those to go tbh. Sigurdsson has just been too inconsistent since we bought him, the odd fantastic game then nothing for weeks.

19 Feb 2020 16:02:30
Cheers Ed. Yea agree gibbo. Not convinced we'd get much for either but at least something plus massive wages off the books! Sickening to think siggy schneiderlin Walcott and sandro costs us somewhere near half a million a week and none of them are good enough!

19 Feb 2020 17:21:51
My best memory of Sig’s was that wonder goal against Leicester, I couldn’t get tickets in the away end so had to sit with the Leicester fans. I had to look annoyed when it rifled in. 😂.

18 Feb 2020 09:31:21
rumours floating about everton are looking to complete a deal for lille centre back gabriel dos santos, left footed brazilian centre back 22 years old.

{Ed002's Note - Gabriel Magalhaes was the subject of several discussions between Lille and Arsenal - but he signed a new contract a couple of weeks ago.}

18 Feb 2020 11:15:24
cheers ed.

{Ed002's Note - Southampton and Everton have both sent scouts to watch the player.}

16 Feb 2020 20:25:03
Everton to end their sponsorship with sportpesa at the end of the season.
Cue a big sponsorship deal from uncle Alisher.

16 Feb 2020 20:47:16
Think you could be right matey.

16 Feb 2020 21:41:38
I am pretty sure Smitt is right.

16 Feb 2020 22:05:02
Would a big sponsor shirt deal from usmanov go towards solving our ffp problems or are they already beyond being helped.

16 Feb 2020 23:52:09
Would be no surprise to see megafon on the kits next season.
Whoever we end up with as shirt sponsors hopefully we don’t end up with another gambling company.

17 Feb 2020 01:48:12
Everton will have to tread very carefully in regards to any of Alisher Usmanovs companies sponsoring stadiums, shirts etc, Moshiri is clearly linked to Usmanov, any sponsorship deals will have to be proven to be legitmaly worth the companies investment, in terms of the stadium sponsorship, there will need to be proof that there were multiple bidders for the naming rights, and not just one bid of a multi-year multi-million pound contract.

17 Feb 2020 06:56:26
There doesn't need to be proof of multiple bidders for naming rights. If only one company made an offer then that's what you would have to accept else be without a sponsor.
We may need to prove that it is in the realms of correct value, that the deal isn't (x) amount more than realistic offers should be, but amount of bidders doesn't really come into it.

17 Feb 2020 14:09:44
Well Chevrolet pay Utd around 65m, and we were getting less than 10 from Sports Pesa. So I would imagine there is a lot of scope for improvement.

17 Feb 2020 18:30:52
There’s a large discrepancy between top six sponsorship deals and 7th down. So if Usm or Megafon come in with a top six sized offer it will look suspect. If a company unrelated to Everton offer a similar amount then there’s no real concerns. Occam’s razor, if it looks dodgey then it probably is.

17 Feb 2020 19:53:17
And if we finish above united this season and get a bigger sponsorship deal will that be ok?
The size of the deal isn't decided by league position. Every team starts the season outside the top 6.

17 Feb 2020 20:35:26
When you look at these figures you can see it’s not just the Sponsor it’s also what the kit manufacturer will pay!

10) Juventus - €93m per year (€51m from Adidas, €42m from Jeep)
9) Liverpool - €98.5m per year (€52.1m from New Balance, €46.3m from Standard Chartered)
8) Arsenal - €104.2m per year (€57.9 from Adidas, €46.3 from Emirates)
7) Bayern Munich - €106m per year (€66m from Adidas, €40m from T-Mobile)
6) Chelsea - €115.8m per year (€69.5m from Nike, €46.3m from Yokohama)
5) Manchester City - €127.4m per year (€75.3m from Puma, €52.1m from Etihad)
4) Paris Saint-Germain - €135m per year (€75m from Nike, €60m from Accor Live Limitless)
3) Barcelona - €160m per year (€105m from Nike, €55m from Rakuten)
2) Manchester United - €161m per year (€86.9m from Adidas, €74.1m from Chevrolet)
1) Real Madrid - €190m per year (€120m from Adidas, €70m from Emirates)

17 Feb 2020 22:44:01
The point is Smit, USM can’t throw money at us without it being looked at. But if a completely independent investor were to offer the same, then that would make the offer look more credible. The top six clubs have all had champ league history. We haven’t. That puts them in a bigger bidding pool than us. So if USM were to offer us money like we had some sort of champs league attraction when in all honesty we don’t, then like it or not, it looks suss.

{Ed002's Note - There has to be a reason for the investment - you cannot simply hand money over. The money for the option of naming rights will be looked at - and it would not be a shock to see perhaps a small percentage of it being counted for FFP.}

17 Feb 2020 23:52:14
The reason is we need uncle Usmanovs money to help us compete, the big boys have filled their boots and now the ladder has been removed to stop any other team trying to compete with them.

If the top teams can get over a hundred million on combined sponsorships all it is doing is making the gap even harder to close.

I think 30 Million a year is a fair amount to have Megafon on our shirts.

{Ed002's Note - Everton are working well outside of the rules and within a year or two will be charged. The are a light year away from meeting UEFA FFP.}

18 Feb 2020 08:51:40
Spurs have been in the top 6 for the last 10 years and have only just signed a bumper shirt deal, and it's still way short of some of the big teams.

Don't expect ours to rocket just because we break into the top 6. Top 6 just won't cut it, it's winning things that gets the big sponsors in.

20 Feb 2020 19:20:36
All this sponsorship is just the start, once we are in that stadium then the sponsorship money will increase as there is more commercial scope, don’t forget that this stadium is starting a bigger project, we do have to tread carefully with FFP which is why our squad budget is a mess.

16 Feb 2020 11:15:12
I see this morning that Digne is the latest player to be linked away with Chealsea and Man U said to interested, price being quoted as £36 million, the report says Digne could be tempted by a move if we don't qualify for Europe, I think we have a very good chance of qualifying it will be interesting to see which Teams qualify.

16 Feb 2020 12:50:29
This is just speculation on some lazy journalists part GB. We will get more of the same the better the team does and obviously the "better" teams will be after our players. If they do go I trust Brands to get over the odds for them.

16 Feb 2020 13:50:27
I agree mate but he does have a point, all top footballers want to play in Europe.

16 Feb 2020 15:11:49
We will need to get into Europe or it will be more than Digne being sold if a good offer comes in. We seriously need to improve revenue if we want to keep the players we have and make further improvements to the squad.

16 Feb 2020 15:34:42
Definitely Toffee Ace mate.

16 Feb 2020 16:48:58
Don't get the obsession with playing in Europe you could be knocked out in the first round. all this I want champions League football is becoming a bit tedious.

16 Feb 2020 17:32:42
I don’t get the fascination either as before brexit we played in Europe every game 😂.

16 Feb 2020 19:00:04
It's where the best players want to play we would have a better chance of keeping the ones we want and the ones we would like, simples.

16 Feb 2020 19:53:43
That was not me posting on that last post . one of the boys have been winding me up sorry blues.

16 Feb 2020 21:46:33
Surely the penny will drop on the usual players linked away.

It happens every season when we are due to play the said clubs, Man Utd and Chelsea due up soon.

Seems the press are not happy with Everton challenging and once again we have them spouting rubbish, to unsettle the team.

17 Feb 2020 11:59:09
I have no issue with players getting sold; even those who are considered to be among the top performers. The proviso is that we get maximum value for them and we have a replacement lined up which is not going to impact the performances.

Football is a business and clubs need to get in to the habit of recycling players and replacing them. There are clubs in Europe where this is the norm, yet they are able to maintain a performance level. I thought one of Brands functions would be this type of buying and selling players to make a profit from player trading.

03 Feb 2020 20:48:22
More reports of Usmanov in Megafon advertising at Goodison, could this be another sign he will be stepping up his investments with us, happy days.

04 Feb 2020 08:13:13
Lots of Signs. All around Goodison. Do you think he is paying over the odds?

04 Feb 2020 12:33:49
The Megafon advertising is part of an existing deal and does not involve any more sponsorship funding being put into the club.

05 Feb 2020 12:27:01
All seems a bit strange to me. Usmanov has a few links to EFC now with sponsorships and naming rights. He’s a businessman and he’s not going to give money to EFC or his friend as owner unless he is getting something in return other than getting his brand advertised.

At the same time there is no point in him joining Moshiri in ownership of the club as this wouldn’t make a difference to FFP as are overheads are more than our income.
I understand the club is trying to offload surplus players and reduce the wages. But really if we could wave a magic wand and move on Stekelenburg, one of our RB (Kenny, Coleman or Sidibe) , Martina and Niasse.

Maybe others ie Schneiderlin, Sigurdson and Walcott too. Would this get us back within the threshold of FFP? Not forgetting even if all these could move on. Our club has ambition to bring in new quality players who will cost a premium which will then put us back to square 1. So what is the answer apart from selling our best players like we have done in the past. Doesn’t seem fair financially to us supporters.

06 Feb 2020 21:16:22
Ed02, I know this may be a massive over simplification but do you have an idea of a ball park figure of the amount of wages that need to be cut to get us back in line with FFP?

{Ed002's Note - It doesn't work like that Chris. In simple terms, Everton has to maintain losses over a rolling three year period for the Premier League to less than £105M - excluded are youth development and infrastructure costs. Over the past three years the gross loss/profit and loss are +£10M, -£35M and for last season -£112M. For this season Everton must make a significant profit - they won't because 85% of income is spent on wages, then they have spent significantly on players, running the club and are building debt with the club mortgaged against a third party. They are sort of screwed big time and the business simply cannot be sustained as it is.}

07 Feb 2020 10:17:53
Very worrying to read.

08 Feb 2020 16:15:54
Hi ed, would it be possible for Everton to liquidate and form a new club similar to Rangers, or is it a case that we are going to be liquidated and they will not allow us to come back. such a shame that mismanagement is going to close our club, just as we were turning the season around, I hope they allow us to recreate a version of us in the lower leagues.

{Ed002's Note - Don’t worry, nothing like that is going to happen}

09 Feb 2020 12:58:21
Thanks for clearing that up ed, I just hope we can sort ourselves out before it gets too serious, would be a huge blow to get into Europe and then banned/ fined. As you say, the business seems unsustainable and I was just fearing the worst. Hopefully we cam reduce the numbers of the squad, thanks again ed.

09 Feb 2020 15:19:26
Wow just Wow!

31 Jan 2020 22:43:49
Lossle goes out on loan, which must mean Virginia is back up with Stecklenberg
Sorry about spelling.

02 Feb 2020 17:14:02
What an absolute waste of wages. Why did we get him in then?

02 Feb 2020 19:08:32
Might be CA's decision, Smit, maybe he doesn't rate him as highly as the last manager did.

02 Feb 2020 21:36:19
The last manager didn't play him though. Might as well stuck with steklenburg and saved 6 months of an extra wage.

03 Feb 2020 23:08:23
Huddersfield will be paying his wages whilst he’s on loan.

04 Feb 2020 07:40:48
But we will have been paying them for the last 6 months since we signed him which I think is what Smit was alluding to.

04 Feb 2020 15:49:30
Yep a waste of 6 months wages for absolutely nothing.

07 Feb 2020 13:09:55
Wasn’t Stek ready to leave in the summer. Looks like we got him in too early.

31 Jan 2020 10:41:12
burnley in for niasse on loan.

31 Jan 2020 11:39:45
Fingers crossed.

31 Jan 2020 11:59:49
Whoop whoop please come true.

31 Jan 2020 12:07:07
burnley watch you tube vids, then decide against it,

31 Jan 2020 13:02:52
Could he be the mystery player who wouldn’t goto Sheffield Utd?

31 Jan 2020 14:06:01
Why would either team be interested in him?

31 Jan 2020 14:23:37
Burnley have denied it it’s not happening.

31 Jan 2020 18:37:21
Not being funny, but Wood, Barnes amd Rodriguez are all well better than Niasse, Burnley aren't stupid.

01 Feb 2020 09:40:20
It's not just Niasse. the problem is we have panic bought many players who just have kept our squad bang average. We have bought and sold or even just released so many players who are now in Th Championship or are at lesser clubs than ours doing an average job. Then we have replaced those players with other average players and agin replaced them. We used to buy young up and coming players. bring them through slowly. Then spend big on quality. Now we seem to spend between £10 and £50 million on average players and then bring a new manager in who recognises the limitations of the player so and gets his own in. We end up with a huge squad and players out on loan or waiting for their contracts to run down and unable to sign new players because of it.